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iPhone Clarification, iPhone 3G Updates, Sena Slim Case Review

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Hey all!

Today’s discussion will be branched into three categories: (be ready to do some reading)

  1. The First Generation iPhone with phone plans
  2. The iPhone 3G
  3. A SENA Case for iPhone 3G review

First Generation iPhone

As many of you know, the iPhone 3G was released in Canada on July 11th, 2008. As thousands of people lined up everywhere to get the new iPhone 3G, just as many did not opt for the new 3G and instead continued on with their first generation iPhones.

Unlike the iPhone 3G, the first generation iPhone cannot be purchased at a Rogers or Fido outlet. The first generation iPhone can be bought on eBay or Craigs List or wherever you can buy non-Canadian phones/grey market phones and fortunately the first gen can be used with either a Rogers or Fido plan.

As of about two weeks prior to July 11th, 2008, the first generation iPhone was essentially banned from all Rogers/Fido outlets. What these means for clients and potential customers of Rogers/Fido is that you cannot activate a first generation iPhone. More specifically, the Rogers/Fido rep cannot touch the first generation iPhone without risk. So, how do you activate your first generation iPhone?

The best way to do this is simply to activate a SIM card. Go to your local Rogers/Fido and simply ask to start a yearly contract (for the best plans) and get a new phone (free phone on a 3 year contract). Now you have an activated SIM card and a spare phone (sell it or store it). From here, you will move your new SIM card from the new Rogers phone into your first generation iPhone. Now you have voice service. (If you already have a Rogers account, just move your SIM card into the iPhone)

If you are looking for add-ons such as voicemail, caller display, and data, things can become slightly more complex. At this time, you can add any add-on service such as regular Voicemail, caller display and texting to the first generation iPhone with any firmware and it will work fine. However, if you want the new Visual Voicemail, this can work on the first generation iPhone but you must have the new 2.0 firmware installed.

If you are looking to add data, this is where things get tough. While most of the data plans from Rogers work with the first generation iPhone, there have been mixed reviews about the new $30 6GB promo data plan working on the first gens. So, I would advise that until more proof is revealed, that if you need data on your first gen iPhone, stick with any data plan that is NOT the $30 6GB plan (see the windows mobile/blackberry data plan area of Rogers.com).

So, now you have working voice service, data service and add-ons.

Good Luck!

iPhone 3G

To begin, if you are currently in possession of the iPhone 3G, congratulations on your hard work and dedication in getting this device. As many know by now, it was (and continues to be) difficult to snag one of these phones and if you managed to get one, well done!

First, I want to clarify hardware upgrades on the iPhone 3G with Rogers.

If you are an existing customer with a consumer account and have had your phone for over one year (or it has been one year since your last upgrade or since the beginning of your account) you are eligible to upgrade. If you are a corporate customer and you have had your phone for over one year or two years (depending on your account), you too will be eligible.

In most cases, for either customer type, the iPhone will run you $199 for the 8GB or $299 for the 16GB, however, this is dependent on your account tenure and voice plan price amount and if you want to know for sure, either call Rogers or head to your local Rogers store to find out.

In order to get the phone at the above promo pricing (for either upgrades or new accounts), you must satisfy two things:

  1. You must sign or resign a 3 year contract
  2. You must have a monthly service fee for the voice plan being greater than $30. (Not $30 on the dollar, MORE than $30….so $30.01 or higher and if you downgrade ANYTIME during your contract length to a plan that is $30 or LESS, you will be charged a $50 downgrade fee and this fee only applies to iPhone accounts)

The definition of a monthly service fee is:

A) The voice plan ($30.01+ mega time plan)

B) A voice plan with a data plan ($30.01+ voice plan, with $30 data plan = $55 total but the voice plan is over $30)

If you do not want to have a higher than $30 plan, you can still get the iPhone, except you pay $249/$349 for the 8GB/16GB models (a $50 increase on both models).

As far as which plans can you choose with Rogers? Any plan, so long as it meets the above requirements. Also, for those people wondering about family plans, you can now both upgrade and activate new lines on Family Plans (this was not possible earlier this past week).

For those who want JUST a voice plan (so to get promo pricing, it has to be higher than $30.01) you can do this but remember that you will be charged at $0.05/kb for data usage without a data plan. If that fact does not scare you, be sure to contact Rogers and have them block �goam.com, internet.com� and anything else related to data and internet usage. What this means is you will only have access to the internet with WiFi (wireless internet) and if you are not in WiFi 24 hours/day, you essentially will have a less than complete iPhone 3G experience.

I realize that this does not answer every question, which is why I refer to you check out the iphoneincanada.ca forums page. Failing that, you can post here on this blog and failing that, you can Private Message me via the forums, but considering you need to get to the forums in order to message me, try the forum search function first, kay? Thx.

Sena iPhone 3G Ultra Slim Pouch Review

I recently picked up yet another case for my iPhone 3G (many of you may have read my review of the Belkin case) and this time it is from Sena.

I have been a long time user of Sena cases. I have had them for Blackberries, basic phones, the first generation iPhone, and now the iPhone 3G. The Sena case that I had for the first generation iPhone was Senas’ �Elega� line, which is essentially the larger version of their �ultra slim� line. In any case, I wanted to try the slim case this time around and in typical Sena fashion, it did not disappoint.

First off, this case is really really slim…I mean like really slim. Its like a package of Trident gum…SLIM. When I put my iPhone 3G into this case and close my eyes, I forget the case is even there…it’s THAT slim. And because of this slimness, the case REALLY grips onto the iPhone tightly.

The case itself is made of fine Napa leather so it feels very nice in the hand. The �slim pouch� line also only comes in this alligator skin texture (for lack of a better word) and hugs the iPhone 3G very tightly. Inside the case, the walls are lined with velvet and gives your iPhone 3G a nice snug and soft place to rest. On the front you also have the SENA logo (almost completely hidden and actually looks good) and along the back there is nothing but the alligator skin texture (no clip). Along the bottom of the case, on both sides, are six tiny cut out holes for the speaker and mic (three holes per side per speaker/mic).

So, what is not so good about this case you ask? Only one thing; its hard to take the iPhone out of the case (requires a solid push at the bottom). This small issue could be exclusive to me because I choose to still have the original plastic on the front of my iPhone 3G (pending the invisible shield arrival) and I can see where that plastic can cause the iPhone to not slide in/out of the case so easily. However, once you do get it half way out (see the video on Senas website) it almost feels as if the phone COULD fall and this is something I really do not like.

On a lighter note, the difficulties could also be from the fact that it’s a new case and it takes some time to stretch it out, but in a way, I am happy that it is hard to take it out because to me, that means my iPhone 3G will not just accidentally fall out of the case.

Currently, this case type comes in 10 different colors and runs for $29.99 from the Sena Online Store. A solid price for a really solid and SLIM case. SLIM. 🙂

Well folks, that will just about do it. No give-away today however I have something in works coming up, so stay tuned!

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  • I was able to activate visual voicemail on mine on Fido, but they wanted the IMEI for the $30 6gb plan and mine wasn’t eligible. From what I’ve been hearing, people on Fido have been able to activate visual voicemail while people on Rogers have not. I’ve also heard of about 50% of people being able to add $30 – 6gb to their first gen iPhones.

  • I was able to activate visual voicemail on mine on Fido, but they wanted the IMEI for the $30 6gb plan and mine wasn’t eligible. From what I’ve been hearing, people on Fido have been able to activate visual voicemail while people on Rogers have not. I’ve also heard of about 50% of people being able to add $30 – 6gb to their first gen iPhones.

  • I was able to activate visual voicemail on mine on Fido, but they wanted the IMEI for the $30 6gb plan and mine wasn’t eligible. From what I’ve been hearing, people on Fido have been able to activate visual voicemail while people on Rogers have not. I’ve also heard of about 50% of people being able to add $30 – 6gb to their first gen iPhones.

  • warpdrive

    Yo X1, the sena slim will stretch over time. I stretched mine out manually by pulling it in diferent directions and now it fits great. It still won’t slide out on it’s own, a push on the bottom of the case is still required.

  • warpdrive

    Yo X1, the sena slim will stretch over time. I stretched mine out manually by pulling it in diferent directions and now it fits great. It still won’t slide out on it’s own, a push on the bottom of the case is still required.

  • Trent

    RE: monthly service plan

    When I got my iPhone 3G on launch day I was told that the monthly service fee included a voice plan only. In other words, I couldn’t get a $25 voice plan and the $30 data plan without paying the $50 downgrade fee. I was told that in order to avoid the $50 downgrade fee, I’d need to get a voice plan of more than $30, in addition to any data plan I went for.
    Which sucked for me, since the $25 voice plan I got was all I needed. So I had to pay the $50 downgrade fee.

  • Trent

    RE: monthly service plan

    When I got my iPhone 3G on launch day I was told that the monthly service fee included a voice plan only. In other words, I couldn’t get a $25 voice plan and the $30 data plan without paying the $50 downgrade fee. I was told that in order to avoid the $50 downgrade fee, I’d need to get a voice plan of more than $30, in addition to any data plan I went for.
    Which sucked for me, since the $25 voice plan I got was all I needed. So I had to pay the $50 downgrade fee.

  • Trent

    RE: monthly service plan

    When I got my iPhone 3G on launch day I was told that the monthly service fee included a voice plan only. In other words, I couldn’t get a $25 voice plan and the $30 data plan without paying the $50 downgrade fee. I was told that in order to avoid the $50 downgrade fee, I’d need to get a voice plan of more than $30, in addition to any data plan I went for.
    Which sucked for me, since the $25 voice plan I got was all I needed. So I had to pay the $50 downgrade fee.

  • Trent

    RE: monthly service plan

    When I got my iPhone 3G on launch day I was told that the monthly service fee included a voice plan only. In other words, I couldn’t get a $25 voice plan and the $30 data plan without paying the $50 downgrade fee. I was told that in order to avoid the $50 downgrade fee, I’d need to get a voice plan of more than $30, in addition to any data plan I went for.
    Which sucked for me, since the $25 voice plan I got was all I needed. So I had to pay the $50 downgrade fee.

  • J. Han

    I have used three different Sena cases before. They all fit very well. Top notch cases, super leather. Leather will loosen eventually. Thanks for the review X1Zero.

  • J. Han

    I have used three different Sena cases before. They all fit very well. Top notch cases, super leather. Leather will loosen eventually. Thanks for the review X1Zero.

  • J. Han

    I have used three different Sena cases before. They all fit very well. Top notch cases, super leather. Leather will loosen eventually. Thanks for the review X1Zero.

  • J. Han

    I have used three different Sena cases before. They all fit very well. Top notch cases, super leather. Leather will loosen eventually. Thanks for the review X1Zero.

  • Quote:

    “So, I would advise that until more proof is revealed, that if you need data on your first gen iPhone, stick with any data plan that is NOT the $30 6GB plan (see the windows mobile/blackberry data plan area of Rogers.com).”

    When I had the $7 unlimited WAP browsing that didn’t work and I was charged… will one of the Windows mobile/blackberry plans work for sure adn I won’t get charged? I want data, what are my options? Are they as much as a rip off like the iPhone plans? If they aren’t, I don’t see why everyone doesn’t just go with those instead.

  • Quote:

    “So, I would advise that until more proof is revealed, that if you need data on your first gen iPhone, stick with any data plan that is NOT the $30 6GB plan (see the windows mobile/blackberry data plan area of Rogers.com).”

    When I had the $7 unlimited WAP browsing that didn’t work and I was charged… will one of the Windows mobile/blackberry plans work for sure adn I won’t get charged? I want data, what are my options? Are they as much as a rip off like the iPhone plans? If they aren’t, I don’t see why everyone doesn’t just go with those instead.

  • Quote:

    “So, I would advise that until more proof is revealed, that if you need data on your first gen iPhone, stick with any data plan that is NOT the $30 6GB plan (see the windows mobile/blackberry data plan area of Rogers.com).”

    When I had the $7 unlimited WAP browsing that didn’t work and I was charged… will one of the Windows mobile/blackberry plans work for sure adn I won’t get charged? I want data, what are my options? Are they as much as a rip off like the iPhone plans? If they aren’t, I don’t see why everyone doesn’t just go with those instead.

  • Quote:

    “So, I would advise that until more proof is revealed, that if you need data on your first gen iPhone, stick with any data plan that is NOT the $30 6GB plan (see the windows mobile/blackberry data plan area of Rogers.com).”

    When I had the $7 unlimited WAP browsing that didn’t work and I was charged… will one of the Windows mobile/blackberry plans work for sure adn I won’t get charged? I want data, what are my options? Are they as much as a rip off like the iPhone plans? If they aren’t, I don’t see why everyone doesn’t just go with those instead.

  • “If you do not want to have a higher than $30 plan, you can still get the iPhone, except you pay $249/$349 for the 8GB/16GB models (a $50 increase on both models).”

    I don’t think this is always true. I haven’t actually found an iPhone yet in Edmonton, but I called Rogers and asked how much it will cost me to upgrade and the customer service representative told me because my voice plan was less than $30, I would have to pay $350 + $35 upgrade fee for just the 8 (EIGHT!!) gigabyte iPhone! The 16GB phone would cost me $550 + $35 upgrade fee.

    What a crock of shit. I hope this isn’t the case. I have no problem paying the $50 downgrade fee—if I can get the 8GB phone for $249 that is. Or the 16GB for $349. The $50 downgrade fee will pay for itself in a few months with the money I save from not upgrading my $20/month voice plan, so I don’t care about that. I just want the phones for $249/349.

    Any help?

  • Bud Colby

    @ Renato

    As X1 expains, I was able to get my 16 GB for $349.00 becase I was eligable for an upgrade, but not eligable for the full upgrade, due to hoe long it had been since my last upgrade. Also, because I stayed with the My5 25 + $7.00 early eavenings + $15.00 value pack, $30 6GB data plan, I was well above the $30 mark. If I was below that mark, even being eligable for a partial upgrade, I would have had to pay $550.00 for the phone. Hope that helps.

  • Bud Colby

    @ Renato

    As X1 expains, I was able to get my 16 GB for $349.00 becase I was eligable for an upgrade, but not eligable for the full upgrade, due to hoe long it had been since my last upgrade. Also, because I stayed with the My5 25 + $7.00 early eavenings + $15.00 value pack, $30 6GB data plan, I was well above the $30 mark. If I was below that mark, even being eligable for a partial upgrade, I would have had to pay $550.00 for the phone. Hope that helps.

  • Bud Colby

    @ Renato

    As X1 expains, I was able to get my 16 GB for $349.00 becase I was eligable for an upgrade, but not eligable for the full upgrade, due to hoe long it had been since my last upgrade. Also, because I stayed with the My5 25 + $7.00 early eavenings + $15.00 value pack, $30 6GB data plan, I was well above the $30 mark. If I was below that mark, even being eligable for a partial upgrade, I would have had to pay $550.00 for the phone. Hope that helps.

  • Bud Colby

    @ Renato

    As X1 expains, I was able to get my 16 GB for $349.00 becase I was eligable for an upgrade, but not eligable for the full upgrade, due to hoe long it had been since my last upgrade. Also, because I stayed with the My5 25 + $7.00 early eavenings + $15.00 value pack, $30 6GB data plan, I was well above the $30 mark. If I was below that mark, even being eligable for a partial upgrade, I would have had to pay $550.00 for the phone. Hope that helps.

  • Bud Colby

    P.S. And jus as a little happy note, after I ordered my BLACK 16GB, and they shipped me a WHITE one, with a bit of negotiation, they are now going to credit my acount for $15 a month for 5 months. =$75.

  • Bud Colby

    P.S. And jus as a little happy note, after I ordered my BLACK 16GB, and they shipped me a WHITE one, with a bit of negotiation, they are now going to credit my acount for $15 a month for 5 months. =$75.

  • Bud Colby

    P.S. And jus as a little happy note, after I ordered my BLACK 16GB, and they shipped me a WHITE one, with a bit of negotiation, they are now going to credit my acount for $15 a month for 5 months. =$75.

  • Bud Colby

    P.S. And jus as a little happy note, after I ordered my BLACK 16GB, and they shipped me a WHITE one, with a bit of negotiation, they are now going to credit my acount for $15 a month for 5 months. =$75.

  • Mark B

    i got the 8gb on an upgrade for 230$ with a 50$ mail in rebate so 180$. i’ve been with rogers for well over 6 years and just finished my last 3 year contract. no mention of any downgrade fee. only got a 20$ voice plan with call display 7$ and my5 15$ overall i’m very impressed with the phone. although it sometimes laggs and reboots. once it shut down and took me a while to get it turned back on. (front and top buttons for 15 sec) been fine since

  • Mark B

    i got the 8gb on an upgrade for 230$ with a 50$ mail in rebate so 180$. i’ve been with rogers for well over 6 years and just finished my last 3 year contract. no mention of any downgrade fee. only got a 20$ voice plan with call display 7$ and my5 15$ overall i’m very impressed with the phone. although it sometimes laggs and reboots. once it shut down and took me a while to get it turned back on. (front and top buttons for 15 sec) been fine since

  • Mark B

    i got the 8gb on an upgrade for 230$ with a 50$ mail in rebate so 180$. i’ve been with rogers for well over 6 years and just finished my last 3 year contract. no mention of any downgrade fee. only got a 20$ voice plan with call display 7$ and my5 15$ overall i’m very impressed with the phone. although it sometimes laggs and reboots. once it shut down and took me a while to get it turned back on. (front and top buttons for 15 sec) been fine since

  • Mark B

    i got the 8gb on an upgrade for 230$ with a 50$ mail in rebate so 180$. i’ve been with rogers for well over 6 years and just finished my last 3 year contract. no mention of any downgrade fee. only got a 20$ voice plan with call display 7$ and my5 15$ overall i’m very impressed with the phone. although it sometimes laggs and reboots. once it shut down and took me a while to get it turned back on. (front and top buttons for 15 sec) been fine since

  • Gray McCarty

    X1Zero,

    Thanks as always for your help on the forums.

    Question regarding the special promo pricing of the device: you said that as long as your monthly service plan = $30.01 you should be fine for the 199/299 pricing? You gave the example of 25$ voice + 30$ data = 55$, so technically you’re eligible for the 199/299 pricing? If we’re given 249/349 pricing with a 20$ voice and 30$ data plan with Fido, does that mean someone’s made a mistake? They told me I wasn’t eligible for that promo pricing because my voice plan (20$) isn’t over 30$ – is this incorrect?

    Thanks, as always

  • Gray McCarty

    X1Zero,

    Thanks as always for your help on the forums.

    Question regarding the special promo pricing of the device: you said that as long as your monthly service plan = $30.01 you should be fine for the 199/299 pricing? You gave the example of 25$ voice + 30$ data = 55$, so technically you’re eligible for the 199/299 pricing? If we’re given 249/349 pricing with a 20$ voice and 30$ data plan with Fido, does that mean someone’s made a mistake? They told me I wasn’t eligible for that promo pricing because my voice plan (20$) isn’t over 30$ – is this incorrect?

    Thanks, as always

  • Gray McCarty

    X1Zero,

    Thanks as always for your help on the forums.

    Question regarding the special promo pricing of the device: you said that as long as your monthly service plan = $30.01 you should be fine for the 199/299 pricing? You gave the example of 25$ voice + 30$ data = 55$, so technically you’re eligible for the 199/299 pricing? If we’re given 249/349 pricing with a 20$ voice and 30$ data plan with Fido, does that mean someone’s made a mistake? They told me I wasn’t eligible for that promo pricing because my voice plan (20$) isn’t over 30$ – is this incorrect?

    Thanks, as always

  • Gray McCarty

    X1Zero,

    Thanks as always for your help on the forums.

    Question regarding the special promo pricing of the device: you said that as long as your monthly service plan = $30.01 you should be fine for the 199/299 pricing? You gave the example of 25$ voice + 30$ data = 55$, so technically you’re eligible for the 199/299 pricing? If we’re given 249/349 pricing with a 20$ voice and 30$ data plan with Fido, does that mean someone’s made a mistake? They told me I wasn’t eligible for that promo pricing because my voice plan (20$) isn’t over 30$ – is this incorrect?

    Thanks, as always

  • X1Zero

    @Gray,

    Unless something has changed, as long as your monthly service fee, not just individual an is above $30, you get promo pricing.

  • X1Zero

    @Gray,

    Unless something has changed, as long as your monthly service fee, not just individual an is above $30, you get promo pricing.

  • X1Zero

    @Gray,

    Unless something has changed, as long as your monthly service fee, not just individual an is above $30, you get promo pricing.

  • X1Zero

    @Gray,

    Unless something has changed, as long as your monthly service fee, not just individual an is above $30, you get promo pricing.

  • sylvainp

    From rogers I got the information that the “voice” portion of the plan need to be over 30$ (they even said 35$) if I go for the 6gig/30$ promotion.

  • sylvainp

    From rogers I got the information that the “voice” portion of the plan need to be over 30$ (they even said 35$) if I go for the 6gig/30$ promotion.

  • sylvainp

    From rogers I got the information that the “voice” portion of the plan need to be over 30$ (they even said 35$) if I go for the 6gig/30$ promotion.

  • sylvainp

    From rogers I got the information that the “voice” portion of the plan need to be over 30$ (they even said 35$) if I go for the 6gig/30$ promotion.

  • X1Zero

    Folks, I have updated my post.
    I have confirmed that it is in fact the VOICE PLAN that must be over $30. (Apparently this was not the case during the first week of the iPhone 3G launch)
    Sorry for the confusion.

  • X1Zero

    Folks, I have updated my post.
    I have confirmed that it is in fact the VOICE PLAN that must be over $30. (Apparently this was not the case during the first week of the iPhone 3G launch)
    Sorry for the confusion.

  • X1Zero

    Folks, I have updated my post.
    I have confirmed that it is in fact the VOICE PLAN that must be over $30. (Apparently this was not the case during the first week of the iPhone 3G launch)
    Sorry for the confusion.

  • X1Zero

    @Tina,
    While no data plan is ever guaranteed to work on the first gen iPhone, the other data plans that are not the $30 6GB do have a better chance of working. While you do have a few options to choose from, it is pretty limited when you look at the price and how much data you are actually getting.

    @Renato,
    Remember, upgrades are also based on tenure. So, depending how long you have gone without an upgrade or how long you have had your account mixed with how much you spend per month, all have an effect on your upgrade price.

  • X1Zero

    @Tina,
    While no data plan is ever guaranteed to work on the first gen iPhone, the other data plans that are not the $30 6GB do have a better chance of working. While you do have a few options to choose from, it is pretty limited when you look at the price and how much data you are actually getting.

    @Renato,
    Remember, upgrades are also based on tenure. So, depending how long you have gone without an upgrade or how long you have had your account mixed with how much you spend per month, all have an effect on your upgrade price.

  • X1Zero

    @Tina,
    While no data plan is ever guaranteed to work on the first gen iPhone, the other data plans that are not the $30 6GB do have a better chance of working. While you do have a few options to choose from, it is pretty limited when you look at the price and how much data you are actually getting.

    @Renato,
    Remember, upgrades are also based on tenure. So, depending how long you have gone without an upgrade or how long you have had your account mixed with how much you spend per month, all have an effect on your upgrade price.

  • @X1Zero,
    Here is my situation: I signed a three-year contract with Rogers on something like July 10 of last year, which means one year has passed on my contract, and now I’m eligible for an upgrade. I’ve never upgraded before this point, and would like to now. My voice plan is $20 and I pay $10 for unlimited text messages (which is really just 2500 and not unlimited, so it’s kind of false advertising but whatever) and I know my $10 text messaging plan doesn’t count towards the $30 voice plan I need to get the iPhone at the promo price, but does $350 + $35 sound right to you? That is $385, which is $186 more than the $199 promo price for the 8GB. That’s nearly a SECOND 8GB iPhone!!! I will be paying the price of almost TWO IPHONES!! That doesn’t seem fair, you know? Sigh, I really want one, and I’ll probably pay that for one, but it doesn’t make me a happy customer.

  • @X1Zero,
    Here is my situation: I signed a three-year contract with Rogers on something like July 10 of last year, which means one year has passed on my contract, and now I’m eligible for an upgrade. I’ve never upgraded before this point, and would like to now. My voice plan is $20 and I pay $10 for unlimited text messages (which is really just 2500 and not unlimited, so it’s kind of false advertising but whatever) and I know my $10 text messaging plan doesn’t count towards the $30 voice plan I need to get the iPhone at the promo price, but does $350 + $35 sound right to you? That is $385, which is $186 more than the $199 promo price for the 8GB. That’s nearly a SECOND 8GB iPhone!!! I will be paying the price of almost TWO IPHONES!! That doesn’t seem fair, you know? Sigh, I really want one, and I’ll probably pay that for one, but it doesn’t make me a happy customer.

  • X1Zero

    @Renato,
    Yes that sounds right. Because you are only 1 year in and pay a relatively low monthly service fee, the upgrade will be more than usual in terms of dollars.

    At your 1.5-2 year mark you should see it for $199/$299 for 8/16GB.

  • X1Zero

    @Renato,
    Yes that sounds right. Because you are only 1 year in and pay a relatively low monthly service fee, the upgrade will be more than usual in terms of dollars.

    At your 1.5-2 year mark you should see it for $199/$299 for 8/16GB.

  • X1Zero

    @Renato,
    Yes that sounds right. Because you are only 1 year in and pay a relatively low monthly service fee, the upgrade will be more than usual in terms of dollars.

    At your 1.5-2 year mark you should see it for $199/$299 for 8/16GB.

  • BigSmokeJoe

    After getting caught with the $7 unlimited WAP on my first gen iPhone, I had the wireless access deactivated. After the 3G iphone came out, I tried to get onto the $30 6GB plan and the first rep at Rogers I spoke to said that this promotional plan was only available for 3G specific phones, so I didn’t argue and continued for the next week without data on my account. All this time I did not mention I had a first gen. Then one Sunday morning (1 week ago), I called Rogers and said I wanted the $30 plan, she asked me what phone I had and told her the first gen iPhone. She said no problem, as long as the phone was unlocked I could get it working. She was unable to enter my IMEI number into my account, so she transfered me to data technical service…went through the same question routine with him and then he told me that because I had an older iPhone, the Rogers network wouldn’t accept it, but also in the same breath said that it wasn’t needed, and that the $30 6GB plan would cover all data except VVM. I said no problem, as long as all data is covered I didn’t care about the voice mail. He said your covered and that was that!

  • BigSmokeJoe

    After getting caught with the $7 unlimited WAP on my first gen iPhone, I had the wireless access deactivated. After the 3G iphone came out, I tried to get onto the $30 6GB plan and the first rep at Rogers I spoke to said that this promotional plan was only available for 3G specific phones, so I didn’t argue and continued for the next week without data on my account. All this time I did not mention I had a first gen. Then one Sunday morning (1 week ago), I called Rogers and said I wanted the $30 plan, she asked me what phone I had and told her the first gen iPhone. She said no problem, as long as the phone was unlocked I could get it working. She was unable to enter my IMEI number into my account, so she transfered me to data technical service…went through the same question routine with him and then he told me that because I had an older iPhone, the Rogers network wouldn’t accept it, but also in the same breath said that it wasn’t needed, and that the $30 6GB plan would cover all data except VVM. I said no problem, as long as all data is covered I didn’t care about the voice mail. He said your covered and that was that!

  • BigSmokeJoe

    After getting caught with the $7 unlimited WAP on my first gen iPhone, I had the wireless access deactivated. After the 3G iphone came out, I tried to get onto the $30 6GB plan and the first rep at Rogers I spoke to said that this promotional plan was only available for 3G specific phones, so I didn’t argue and continued for the next week without data on my account. All this time I did not mention I had a first gen. Then one Sunday morning (1 week ago), I called Rogers and said I wanted the $30 plan, she asked me what phone I had and told her the first gen iPhone. She said no problem, as long as the phone was unlocked I could get it working. She was unable to enter my IMEI number into my account, so she transfered me to data technical service…went through the same question routine with him and then he told me that because I had an older iPhone, the Rogers network wouldn’t accept it, but also in the same breath said that it wasn’t needed, and that the $30 6GB plan would cover all data except VVM. I said no problem, as long as all data is covered I didn’t care about the voice mail. He said your covered and that was that!

  • BigSmokeJoe

    After getting caught with the $7 unlimited WAP on my first gen iPhone, I had the wireless access deactivated. After the 3G iphone came out, I tried to get onto the $30 6GB plan and the first rep at Rogers I spoke to said that this promotional plan was only available for 3G specific phones, so I didn’t argue and continued for the next week without data on my account. All this time I did not mention I had a first gen. Then one Sunday morning (1 week ago), I called Rogers and said I wanted the $30 plan, she asked me what phone I had and told her the first gen iPhone. She said no problem, as long as the phone was unlocked I could get it working. She was unable to enter my IMEI number into my account, so she transfered me to data technical service…went through the same question routine with him and then he told me that because I had an older iPhone, the Rogers network wouldn’t accept it, but also in the same breath said that it wasn’t needed, and that the $30 6GB plan would cover all data except VVM. I said no problem, as long as all data is covered I didn’t care about the voice mail. He said your covered and that was that!

  • gotsrsbsns

    i have a question for you. i’d like an iphone but since i’ve had an upgrade last year (december ish?) and i’ve been told i have to wait till i’m eligible again.

    i currently share an account with someone else. We have seperate wireless numbers and everything.

    Is it possible to get the phone without an upgrade? like i mean can i sign a new 3 year contract and get the phone at promo pricing? or can i sign on for a 3 year data plan, keep my current voice plan (maybe renew the contract), and also get it at promo pricing?

    i mean the idea i’ve been getting all along is that the promo pricing applies to new contracts. So if ur an exsisting customer, shouldn’t you be able to get a new contract and get the phone? Does rogers have such a thing as early upgrades? i think i heard that some people can get that.

    if all else fails and the answer to all the above questions is no, and i get a new account with Rogers, is it possible to take my cell number from my exisiting account and transfer it over to the new account?

    Or would it be a better idea to get a new account, get the iphone at promo pricing with this new account, and somehow transfer over my old account/ number onto this new account? would i then be able to transfer my the iphone and the contract and put my iphone onto this old number?

    its tough owning a cell phone in Canada, ya?! y can’t it be simpler and have less fees for everything

  • gotsrsbsns

    i have a question for you. i’d like an iphone but since i’ve had an upgrade last year (december ish?) and i’ve been told i have to wait till i’m eligible again.

    i currently share an account with someone else. We have seperate wireless numbers and everything.

    Is it possible to get the phone without an upgrade? like i mean can i sign a new 3 year contract and get the phone at promo pricing? or can i sign on for a 3 year data plan, keep my current voice plan (maybe renew the contract), and also get it at promo pricing?

    i mean the idea i’ve been getting all along is that the promo pricing applies to new contracts. So if ur an exsisting customer, shouldn’t you be able to get a new contract and get the phone? Does rogers have such a thing as early upgrades? i think i heard that some people can get that.

    if all else fails and the answer to all the above questions is no, and i get a new account with Rogers, is it possible to take my cell number from my exisiting account and transfer it over to the new account?

    Or would it be a better idea to get a new account, get the iphone at promo pricing with this new account, and somehow transfer over my old account/ number onto this new account? would i then be able to transfer my the iphone and the contract and put my iphone onto this old number?

    its tough owning a cell phone in Canada, ya?! y can’t it be simpler and have less fees for everything

  • gotsrsbsns

    i have a question for you. i’d like an iphone but since i’ve had an upgrade last year (december ish?) and i’ve been told i have to wait till i’m eligible again.

    i currently share an account with someone else. We have seperate wireless numbers and everything.

    Is it possible to get the phone without an upgrade? like i mean can i sign a new 3 year contract and get the phone at promo pricing? or can i sign on for a 3 year data plan, keep my current voice plan (maybe renew the contract), and also get it at promo pricing?

    i mean the idea i’ve been getting all along is that the promo pricing applies to new contracts. So if ur an exsisting customer, shouldn’t you be able to get a new contract and get the phone? Does rogers have such a thing as early upgrades? i think i heard that some people can get that.

    if all else fails and the answer to all the above questions is no, and i get a new account with Rogers, is it possible to take my cell number from my exisiting account and transfer it over to the new account?

    Or would it be a better idea to get a new account, get the iphone at promo pricing with this new account, and somehow transfer over my old account/ number onto this new account? would i then be able to transfer my the iphone and the contract and put my iphone onto this old number?

    its tough owning a cell phone in Canada, ya?! y can’t it be simpler and have less fees for everything

  • gotsrsbsns

    i have a question for you. i’d like an iphone but since i’ve had an upgrade last year (december ish?) and i’ve been told i have to wait till i’m eligible again.

    i currently share an account with someone else. We have seperate wireless numbers and everything.

    Is it possible to get the phone without an upgrade? like i mean can i sign a new 3 year contract and get the phone at promo pricing? or can i sign on for a 3 year data plan, keep my current voice plan (maybe renew the contract), and also get it at promo pricing?

    i mean the idea i’ve been getting all along is that the promo pricing applies to new contracts. So if ur an exsisting customer, shouldn’t you be able to get a new contract and get the phone? Does rogers have such a thing as early upgrades? i think i heard that some people can get that.

    if all else fails and the answer to all the above questions is no, and i get a new account with Rogers, is it possible to take my cell number from my exisiting account and transfer it over to the new account?

    Or would it be a better idea to get a new account, get the iphone at promo pricing with this new account, and somehow transfer over my old account/ number onto this new account? would i then be able to transfer my the iphone and the contract and put my iphone onto this old number?

    its tough owning a cell phone in Canada, ya?! y can’t it be simpler and have less fees for everything

  • X1Zero

    @gotsrsbsns,

    You have two options to get the iPhone.

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    2.) Start a totally new and separate account on a 3 year contract and getting promo pricing (this means you will have two contracts now with Rogers)

    3.) You mentioned you share the account; see if that persons upgrade is available and then you can upgrade their account and swap sim cards.

    As you said, existing customers can get promo pricing but only when they renew (hardware upgrade) their contract term for 3 years. This can only be done once per year (for most accounts). While early upgrades do exist, you can only call Rogers to find out if you can do it, but 90% of the time, it does not happen.

    If you get a separate account with a new number and everything, you will not be able to transfer it (overwriting the existing account you have) because both accounts would be under contracts.

    Hope this helps!

    -X1

  • X1Zero

    @gotsrsbsns,

    You have two options to get the iPhone.

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    2.) Start a totally new and separate account on a 3 year contract and getting promo pricing (this means you will have two contracts now with Rogers)

    3.) You mentioned you share the account; see if that persons upgrade is available and then you can upgrade their account and swap sim cards.

    As you said, existing customers can get promo pricing but only when they renew (hardware upgrade) their contract term for 3 years. This can only be done once per year (for most accounts). While early upgrades do exist, you can only call Rogers to find out if you can do it, but 90% of the time, it does not happen.

    If you get a separate account with a new number and everything, you will not be able to transfer it (overwriting the existing account you have) because both accounts would be under contracts.

    Hope this helps!

    -X1

  • X1Zero

    @gotsrsbsns,

    You have two options to get the iPhone.

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    2.) Start a totally new and separate account on a 3 year contract and getting promo pricing (this means you will have two contracts now with Rogers)

    3.) You mentioned you share the account; see if that persons upgrade is available and then you can upgrade their account and swap sim cards.

    As you said, existing customers can get promo pricing but only when they renew (hardware upgrade) their contract term for 3 years. This can only be done once per year (for most accounts). While early upgrades do exist, you can only call Rogers to find out if you can do it, but 90% of the time, it does not happen.

    If you get a separate account with a new number and everything, you will not be able to transfer it (overwriting the existing account you have) because both accounts would be under contracts.

    Hope this helps!

    -X1

  • X1Zero

    @gotsrsbsns,

    You have two options to get the iPhone.

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    2.) Start a totally new and separate account on a 3 year contract and getting promo pricing (this means you will have two contracts now with Rogers)

    3.) You mentioned you share the account; see if that persons upgrade is available and then you can upgrade their account and swap sim cards.

    As you said, existing customers can get promo pricing but only when they renew (hardware upgrade) their contract term for 3 years. This can only be done once per year (for most accounts). While early upgrades do exist, you can only call Rogers to find out if you can do it, but 90% of the time, it does not happen.

    If you get a separate account with a new number and everything, you will not be able to transfer it (overwriting the existing account you have) because both accounts would be under contracts.

    Hope this helps!

    -X1

  • gotsrsbsns

    A+ mate.

    you can transfer contracts? If i made a new contract on my account, and it had a new number and everything , after a month or so would i be able to transfer the new contract onto my current number.

    And i could sell this new number and my old contract, right, just transfer it to someone? Then after that, the new number would be left without a contract, so i would be able to cancel that, ya?

  • gotsrsbsns

    A+ mate.

    you can transfer contracts? If i made a new contract on my account, and it had a new number and everything , after a month or so would i be able to transfer the new contract onto my current number.

    And i could sell this new number and my old contract, right, just transfer it to someone? Then after that, the new number would be left without a contract, so i would be able to cancel that, ya?

  • gotsrsbsns

    A+ mate.

    you can transfer contracts? If i made a new contract on my account, and it had a new number and everything , after a month or so would i be able to transfer the new contract onto my current number.

    And i could sell this new number and my old contract, right, just transfer it to someone? Then after that, the new number would be left without a contract, so i would be able to cancel that, ya?

  • gotsrsbsns

    A+ mate.

    you can transfer contracts? If i made a new contract on my account, and it had a new number and everything , after a month or so would i be able to transfer the new contract onto my current number.

    And i could sell this new number and my old contract, right, just transfer it to someone? Then after that, the new number would be left without a contract, so i would be able to cancel that, ya?

  • gotsrsbsns

    oh hold up, forgot to address this

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    so all i have to do is just call them up at Rogers and tell em i want to sign a new contract, and i should be able to get the phone? I already tried to call them once and the lady on the phone kept telling me that i have to wait till december?

  • gotsrsbsns

    oh hold up, forgot to address this

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    so all i have to do is just call them up at Rogers and tell em i want to sign a new contract, and i should be able to get the phone? I already tried to call them once and the lady on the phone kept telling me that i have to wait till december?

  • gotsrsbsns

    oh hold up, forgot to address this

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    so all i have to do is just call them up at Rogers and tell em i want to sign a new contract, and i should be able to get the phone? I already tried to call them once and the lady on the phone kept telling me that i have to wait till december?

  • gotsrsbsns

    oh hold up, forgot to address this

    1.) Renew your current contract term (signing a new 3 year contract) and getting the phone at promo pricing

    so all i have to do is just call them up at Rogers and tell em i want to sign a new contract, and i should be able to get the phone? I already tried to call them once and the lady on the phone kept telling me that i have to wait till december?

  • X1Zero

    @Gotsrsbsns,

    I dont think you are understanding.

    If you have an existing Rogers account under a contract (lets call it “A”), and you make ANOTHER account under a contract (lets call it “B”) then you try to transfer “B” over “A”…that is another way of saying “cancellation”. Transferring “B” onto “A” or “A” onto “B” cancels one of the contracts and you pay the cancellation fee.

    Now, you can make another contract, get the iPhone at promo pricing and then transfer that new account to someone else, but then that other person would be without a phone unless you bought them one, so there is no benefit at all for someone to take over the account.

    Just understand that if you do a new contract to get the iphone at promo pricing, you will effectively have TWO contracts…not the greatest idea.

    When you are calling and they are saying December, that is because they are referring to your Hardware Upgrade. You can make a new account whenever you want, but that means you will have TWO contracts; your old one and the new one.

  • X1Zero

    @Gotsrsbsns,

    I dont think you are understanding.

    If you have an existing Rogers account under a contract (lets call it “A”), and you make ANOTHER account under a contract (lets call it “B”) then you try to transfer “B” over “A”…that is another way of saying “cancellation”. Transferring “B” onto “A” or “A” onto “B” cancels one of the contracts and you pay the cancellation fee.

    Now, you can make another contract, get the iPhone at promo pricing and then transfer that new account to someone else, but then that other person would be without a phone unless you bought them one, so there is no benefit at all for someone to take over the account.

    Just understand that if you do a new contract to get the iphone at promo pricing, you will effectively have TWO contracts…not the greatest idea.

    When you are calling and they are saying December, that is because they are referring to your Hardware Upgrade. You can make a new account whenever you want, but that means you will have TWO contracts; your old one and the new one.

  • X1Zero

    @Gotsrsbsns,

    I dont think you are understanding.

    If you have an existing Rogers account under a contract (lets call it “A”), and you make ANOTHER account under a contract (lets call it “B”) then you try to transfer “B” over “A”…that is another way of saying “cancellation”. Transferring “B” onto “A” or “A” onto “B” cancels one of the contracts and you pay the cancellation fee.

    Now, you can make another contract, get the iPhone at promo pricing and then transfer that new account to someone else, but then that other person would be without a phone unless you bought them one, so there is no benefit at all for someone to take over the account.

    Just understand that if you do a new contract to get the iphone at promo pricing, you will effectively have TWO contracts…not the greatest idea.

    When you are calling and they are saying December, that is because they are referring to your Hardware Upgrade. You can make a new account whenever you want, but that means you will have TWO contracts; your old one and the new one.

  • X1Zero

    @Gotsrsbsns,

    I dont think you are understanding.

    If you have an existing Rogers account under a contract (lets call it “A”), and you make ANOTHER account under a contract (lets call it “B”) then you try to transfer “B” over “A”…that is another way of saying “cancellation”. Transferring “B” onto “A” or “A” onto “B” cancels one of the contracts and you pay the cancellation fee.

    Now, you can make another contract, get the iPhone at promo pricing and then transfer that new account to someone else, but then that other person would be without a phone unless you bought them one, so there is no benefit at all for someone to take over the account.

    Just understand that if you do a new contract to get the iphone at promo pricing, you will effectively have TWO contracts…not the greatest idea.

    When you are calling and they are saying December, that is because they are referring to your Hardware Upgrade. You can make a new account whenever you want, but that means you will have TWO contracts; your old one and the new one.

  • I have to disagree regarding the Sena UltraSlim for the iphone. I had the Sena UltraSlim which came apart after 5 weeks. The seam is only glued to the leather. I was also disappointed with the leather as its very thin. Just lover half a millimetre in thickness which doesn’t offer good protection if you drop your iphone. I went shopping and managed to spot a handmade iphone leather pouch from Ikonic Edge. The craftsmanship on this is simply brilliant. At around nearly 2mm thick leather while still offering a very snug fit. The interior lining isn’t just glued to the leather but also stitched so there’s no way the the lining will come loose. You can see and feel the difference. I would rate this way higher than the UltraSlim from Sena.

  • I have to disagree regarding the Sena UltraSlim for the iphone. I had the Sena UltraSlim which came apart after 5 weeks. The seam is only glued to the leather. I was also disappointed with the leather as its very thin. Just lover half a millimetre in thickness which doesn’t offer good protection if you drop your iphone. I went shopping and managed to spot a handmade iphone leather pouch from Ikonic Edge. The craftsmanship on this is simply brilliant. At around nearly 2mm thick leather while still offering a very snug fit. The interior lining isn’t just glued to the leather but also stitched so there’s no way the the lining will come loose. You can see and feel the difference. I would rate this way higher than the UltraSlim from Sena.

  • I have to disagree regarding the Sena UltraSlim for the iphone. I had the Sena UltraSlim which came apart after 5 weeks. The seam is only glued to the leather. I was also disappointed with the leather as its very thin. Just lover half a millimetre in thickness which doesn’t offer good protection if you drop your iphone. I went shopping and managed to spot a handmade iphone leather pouch from Ikonic Edge. The craftsmanship on this is simply brilliant. At around nearly 2mm thick leather while still offering a very snug fit. The interior lining isn’t just glued to the leather but also stitched so there’s no way the the lining will come loose. You can see and feel the difference. I would rate this way higher than the UltraSlim from Sena.

  • I have to disagree regarding the Sena UltraSlim for the iphone. I had the Sena UltraSlim which came apart after 5 weeks. The seam is only glued to the leather. I was also disappointed with the leather as its very thin. Just lover half a millimetre in thickness which doesn’t offer good protection if you drop your iphone. I went shopping and managed to spot a handmade iphone leather pouch from Ikonic Edge. The craftsmanship on this is simply brilliant. At around nearly 2mm thick leather while still offering a very snug fit. The interior lining isn’t just glued to the leather but also stitched so there’s no way the the lining will come loose. You can see and feel the difference. I would rate this way higher than the UltraSlim from Sena.

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