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Bell Survey: Verizon Should Not Be Favoured; Public Poll Favours Switching

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The forthcoming wireless spectrum auction has triggered loud comments on Ottawa’s wireless policy, which allows new entrants to purchase two blocks of spectrum out of the available four, while the incumbents are limited to one. But what do Canadians think about it?

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Well, as previous surveys have already shown, if the survey is commissioned by an interested player, they will paint a favourable image of the initiator, while if we are asking the public unscientifically, the results look totally different.

What I am referring to is two different surveys: one commissioned by Bell and conducted by Nanos Research, and a second (unscientific) one, which can be found online on the Toronto Sun’s website. And as you will see below, they show two completely different images of what Canadians think of Verizon’s potential entrance into the country.

The survey commissioned by Bell and Telus has found that 81% of the Canadians think neither foreign nor Canadian companies should be favoured in the wireless auction. And an interesting addition to the aforementioned info is that, in terms of general competition, 70% of the respondents said they would prefer Canadian-owned companies.

And here comes the bombshell: according to the Bell survey, only 27% of Canadians would support foreign-owned telecoms entering the Canadian market.

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Now, if we look at the public, unscientific poll available on the Toronto Sun’s website, we find that 67% of those surveyed would switch to Verizon as soon as the company stepped into the Canadian wireless market.

What do you think?

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  • Michael Moniz

    I think the carriers are full of sh…!!!

  • Al

    “those surveyed would switch to Verizon **as soon as** the company stepped into the Canadian wireless market”

    Really?!? That’s a knee-jerk reaction if I ever heard one. Polls are often too black & white.

    I’ll switch to Verizon as soon as they have substantial coverage in the Canadian market and have established appealing pricing and/or more favourable features.

    I WANT to switch, but I will not switch purely out of my disgust for the big 3. If Verizon doesn’t offer anything substantially better than the big 3, then we would all just be supporting one of “the big 4”.

  • trancen

    What a load of bull, that poll by the SUN is more realistic. Talking to people every day about this, I have yet to hear anyone but those who work for the cell companies say they don’t think it’s a good idea if Verizon comes to canada.

  • K3

    I’d love to switch but my carrier just called and begged me not to.
    ????

  • DG

    I would leave the moment they come into the market. The more people that do the more likely the big three with the better network would start lowering rates. I would switch on principle even if the prices are the same.

  • Chrome262

    While I agree with you, its the practical route, I think people will switch even if they are similar plans. The level of dissatisfaction with the big 3 will drive some to leave just for the sake of leaving. Personally, I just want them to drive prices down, I probably wouldn’t even switch, its what I hoped for with Wind. Because realistically the coverage can’t be that great from the get go, unless they really enforce the network sharing. I am facing a similar issue with my internet, Rogers is just not offering what tekSavvy is offering terms of bandwidth, I might have to sacrifice a bit of speed (45mb/s to 28, and uploads down to 1) but it might be worth it, because Rogers charges way to much for going over 120gigs a month. But the stability and easy of service is with Rogers.

  • Chrome262

    See its what I am talking about, the Hate for the Big 3 seems to be a big motivator. Should some how show that to Verizon, would make their decision easier. Wonder if they are doing a poll?

  • Chrome262

    Oh and 27% is still a big chunk, its almost a 1/3. That is good enough for any business

  • Al

    Do you think Verizon are saints in the US market? What makes them any better? They charge the highest rates, have the most customers and, thereby, are doing the same to Americans as the big 3 do to us! The ONLY shot they have at making it in Canada is to offer something extra of notable value.

    Being the intelligent people that the majority of Canadians are, I believe that most will make a rational, informed decision.

  • 1His_Nibs1

    Ok, I know the Toronto Sun’s poll is “unscientific” and all BUT let’s just hypothesize here for a minute. IF (and it’s a big if) those numbers are even remotely close to being somewhat accurate, the level of dissatisfaction felt by Canadians towards the big 3 is monumental. That being said, I guess it punctuates why the big 3 are scared shitless. Unfortunately they have only themselves to blame for this whole debacle and instead of using BS ad campaigns and scare tactics perhaps they should take a hard look at themselves in the mirror. Stop with these futile attempts to sway Canadians opinions and start EARNING people’s business! If these idiot CEO’s are that out of touch with reality then I guess they deserve to get smashed by the Big Red wave.

  • K3

    Either you’re missing what everyone else is getting or you work for one of the big 3 yourself.

    It has nothing to do with Verizon’s method of conducting business and everything to do with that one more extra source of competition.

    Consider what you have posted above then ask yourself why is it exactly all of a sudden the big 3 are reacting the way they have been.

  • Al

    It’s not really competition if they offer the exact same thing, now is it. We’ve already got 3 companies covering the market well and they’re NOT competing. Do we want to give out business to a 4th who is just going to price fix along with the rest of the gang?? Of course not!

    As I’ve said before, I hope Verizon brings some added benefit to the table, so that there is an actual legitimate reason to switch. But to say you’re going to switch without knowing ANY facts is just plain moronic.

  • Sv650

    I don’t think Verizon coming to Canada will provide any appreciable benefit, but rather simply dilute the current market..

    There you go.

  • K3

    “” It’s not really competition if they offer the exact same thing, now is it. We’ve already got 3 companies covering the market well and they’re NOT competing. “”

    – The 3 decided to play together as there was just enough room to still make a substantial profit but by injecting another company , one that is American, it changes the dynamic.

    – Considering you have “X” amount of land and “X” amount of customers for that land any extra new source of competition

    would be viewed as a potential problem.

    “” As I’ve said before, I hope Verizon brings some added benefit to the table, so that there is an actual legitimate reason to switch. But to say you’re going to switch without knowing ANY facts is just plain moronic. ”

    Other than maybe a decent roaming package chances are the prices could still stay the same. It’s the drive to sign up new customers to which you’ll see those coveted super deals.

    BUT as said already- there must be a reason why the Big 3 are acting the way they are acting.

    SO until Verizon gets here and we see any actual details, to condemn them and say you’re not going to bother switching would be just plain moronic.

    For all we know unlimited everything with 6gigs data at $65 per month could be the standard package from Verizon…

    By the way, do you work for one of the Big 3?

  • mcfilmmakers

    Verizon doesn’t have to do anything. They don’t even have to be cheaper. The POINT is that they are new, that they are NOT the Big 3. That is the only reason a customer needs to want to switch. The very fact that a customer does switch despite the fact they likely won’t be cheaper will create competition as the Big 3 FIGHT to retain those customers with lower rates. This creates the downward spiral in prices we sorely need.

  • ward09

    LOL, all things being equal, I would prefer a Canadian company as well. That said, they are not equal and I have 15 years of hate for the big three – especially Rogers and Bell.

  • Al

    That’s exceedingly naive.

  • Al

    You have ZERO facts, and as such, no assumptions can possibly be made.

    The big 3 are concerned for a multitude of reasons, LEAST of which would be a few childish people switching to Verizon out of spite.

    So what part of “I hope Verizon brings some added benefit to the table” make you suspect I work for the big 3? Paranoid much? If you were on top of the other topics here on IPIC you would see I have been a strong supporter of bringing in serious competition.

  • K3

    Calm down, your reaction here is exactly why I suspect you are working for one of the current wireless providers.

    As for not having any facts; what are you getting at? See my earlier post about possibly missing what everyone else is understanding.

  • K3

    Ask yourself why is it exactly all of a sudden the big 3 are reacting the way they have been? What did you come up with?

  • SID

    Yep and instead of showing how they “care” for Canadians with ads against Verizon they should lower their prices, but instead they all increased their prices last week. Cartel should be a crime (if it is already the laws should be stronger).

  • trancen

    It’s time for the big 3 to wake up. dilute or not. They need to REALLY listen to the consumer, they want change in a BIG way and thats why many welcome Verizon in.

    This talk about Verizon coming in and using the backbone that the big 3 have built up the past 20 yrs is a load of crock as well… Why won’t they allow WIND, Mobilicity and Public to use them? Give those guys a fighting chance.

    As for job loss, ask me if they cared when they outsourced my IT job to India when I worked at Rogers. When it benefits them.. it’s ok.

  • qbmike

    Bell, telus and rogers I hope your scared…….cause the min verzion comes to Canada I am switching to them and I hope they take over and crush all of you terrible company’s. There poll saying we don’t want them in canada is such a joke.. there just scared and they should be remember people verzion is 10 times bigger then any of the awful 3 we have in canada.

  • qbmike

    Happy chapter 11….bell, telus, rogers. Ill send you a gift basket!

  • mecca319@hotmail.com

    Well, it’s not a competition if Verizon comes in and offers the same things as the big 3. But if enough people from ROBELLUS move to Verizon for whatever reason which should be clear to you by now if you have been neglected by ROBELLUS like the rest of us here, ROBELLUS will have no choice but to offer something better than Verizon… and it goes same for Verizon if they want to keep their Canadian customers. Hence the competition is created. Think before you call anyone else a moron.

  • Al

    Apparently I’ve thought this through more than you. Your notion won’t work. Verizon cannot offer lower prices – not without doing the same in the US. They can only offer more services. the big 3 will attempt to do the same (although not on the same scale), so they may offer SLIGHTLY lower prices. People will then have the choice of paying a tiny bit less, or paying the same they always have for more features (perhaps such as free Canadian/US roaming) that may or may not be of value to them.

    But that’s just a possible scenario (but at least one that actually makes sense). I don’t know for certain what will happen. Neither do you. So use some intelligence and quit pretending you know for certain how this is going to play out.

  • Al

    They are afraid of what MAY be. There are too many possibilities that are beyond their control. They don’t like that. But no one, not even Verizon, knows what may or may not happen.

  • K3

    “” I don’t know for certain what will happen. Neither do you. So use some intelligence and quit pretending you know for certain
    how this is going to play out. “”

    You know you might have a problem, you seem over eager to point the finger at others and making classifications to put yourself in what seems a higher standing than that of any other person here.

  • K3

    [[ They are afraid of what MAY be. There are too many possibilities that are beyond their control. They don’t like that. But no one, not even Verizon, knows what may or may not happen. ]]

    Ah but wait a minute –

    [[Do you think Verizon are saints in the US market? What makes them any better? They charge the highest rates, have the most customers and, thereby, are doing the same to Americans as the big 3 do to us! The ONLY shot they have at making it in Canada is to offer something extra of notable value.

    Being the intelligent people that the majority of Canadians are, I believe that most will make a rational, informed decision. ]]

    Apparently somebody has all the answers.

  • retarded Al

    that’s how competition begin you retard
    little by little
    Even if people ending up paying the same $ they are right now, if it includes more features that’s a start.
    simply put would you pay $1 for 3 apples or 5 apples
    If Verizon is able to just offer free US roaming that’s gonna attrack a lot of canadians from the big 3. Big 3 will not sick back and watch their customers ditching them.
    You are the only one in here who is pretending you know what the hell is going on. You are the one saying Verizon CANNOT offer lower prices – to me you sound certain of this… which proves you are negating your own retarded argument.
    USE YOUR HAT RACK from time to time

  • FUAl

    He is a stuborn SOB isn’t he?
    STOP talking like you have all the answers!!
    Canadians will move to Verizon if it comes for whatever the hell reasons they may have. Whether it’s out of spite that’s their choice and you are DEFINITELY wrong saying that childish. You stick to your principles and yours only. A-HOLE
    You can stick with the big 3 and keep paying them unreasonable amount i don’t give a rats ass.

  • mcfilmmakers

    The Big 3 have NO FACTS. They are reacting out of FEAR. The FACT is they ACCEPTED these rules. The FACT is they only reacted AFTER the Verizon RUMORS started. So the FACT is, your reaction is as valid as everyone else’s. If your position is that K3 has no argument based on assumptions, then YOU have no argument based on ASSUMING the very same thing.

  • mcfilmmakers

    Dilution is an amazing benefit.

  • Al

    If there was a relevant point somewhere in the incoherent mess, I sure missed it.

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