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Rogers Updates iPhone 4 Information Page

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Early this morning, Rogers finally updated their website to reflect the July 30 launch date for the iPhone 4.

Like the other wireless carriers, there is a “Register Now” link (on the Rogers homepage) where users can sign up and receive up to date information on the iPhone 4 on Rogers.

Earlier this month, Bell was the first Canadian wireless carrier to publicly post that they would be carrying the iPhone 4 on July 30, 2010. This was followed by Rogers and Fido, except that Rogers/Fido posted their announcements internally and not publicly (that’s changed now).

Soon after, Telus updated their iPhone 4 information page with the July 30 launch date and then Virgin Mobile followed.

So if you are currently a Rogers subscriber or plan on subscribing with Rogers when you get your iPhone 4, check this out. But with 3 days left, there probably won’t be a lot of useful news coming from Rogers.

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  • Hernandobg

    this site just posted this on the pricing a few mins ago. It’s just the unlocked ones though.
    http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/rogers-and-fido-iphone-4-pricing-to-be-649-99-and-749-99/

  • MadRussianMachine

    People are already selling canadian factory unlocked versions of the iphone 4?

    Link here: http://tinyurl.com/iPhone4UnlockedForSale

  • MadRussianMachine

    People are already selling canadian factory unlocked versions of the iphone 4?

    Link here: http://tinyurl.com/iPhone4UnlockedForSale

  • tkatz

    I can’t seem to figure out why with 3 days to launch there is absolutely no information regarding the iPhone 4 launch. I love iPhoneInCanada.ca for being on top of things, but this is getting ridiculous!

    Maybe the less they speak about it, the less demand there will be in order to be in line with (potentially) limited supply.

    I spoke to my local Rogers store today to get some information, and they told me they don’t know very much and are only expecting 3 or 4 in stock of each iPhone 4 capacity — the icing on the cake is that they told me they have been “reserved” and there was no point to waiting or lining up… I feel slighted considering there are no pre-orders.

    I just really want to know what’s with the information hold up? I do not believe this is good customer service nor a proper way to conduct business, but the “Big 3” clearly don’t care.

  • tkatz

    I can’t seem to figure out why with 3 days to launch there is absolutely no information regarding the iPhone 4 launch. I love iPhoneInCanada.ca for being on top of things, but this is getting ridiculous!

    Maybe the less they speak about it, the less demand there will be in order to be in line with (potentially) limited supply.

    I spoke to my local Rogers store today to get some information, and they told me they don’t know very much and are only expecting 3 or 4 in stock of each iPhone 4 capacity — the icing on the cake is that they told me they have been “reserved” and there was no point to waiting or lining up… I feel slighted considering there are no pre-orders.

    I just really want to know what’s with the information hold up? I do not believe this is good customer service nor a proper way to conduct business, but the “Big 3” clearly don’t care.

  • Tyler

    I wonder if the Rogers kiosk inside Mayfair mall would? I bet not many ppl would think about going there to get one, probably hardly any line up. If they had some anyway.

  • Tyler

    I wonder if the Rogers kiosk inside Mayfair mall would? I bet not many ppl would think about going there to get one, probably hardly any line up. If they had some anyway.

  • Rox

    Not so sure about that… they are still selling pretty well in the US… even with the bad antenna design. If your store got only a hand full (this is what happen to me on the 3G launch, lucky enough I was first in line, with only 1 16GB model in store) you might have to wait some days before getting one.

  • There are lots or Rogers dealers in Victoria. Mayfair would be good too as Wireless Wave is there.

  • 6daniel

    simple get data from the store come home right away tell them cancel data they charge you a decf fee for $100.00 from rogers and thats the end of. Just pay for the voice plan.

  • 6daniel

    yay! now i hope that my fido store will get some in stock.

  • 6daniel

    yay! now i hope that my fido store will get some in stock.

  • Blah

    SHHHhhhhhhhhh!!! Don’t tell anyone else!!! If we keep it really quiet there won’t be any lineup at all!!!

    I am really angry at ALL our cellphone providers and Apple on how they have handled this whole release. Like come on! Way to really play stupid games with YOUR customers. It really makes me want to say screw you, I’m not playing you’re stupid game, I’m going with Android! (If there was any decent Android phone in Canada that is…) Unfortunately the iPhone is an essential tool for me and my business so I gotta suck it up and dance to Apples stupid crap

  • win7heartsiphone

    WOW that is brand new information! COME ON ROGERS! COME ON “BIG THREE”. Give us the pricing and hup already!!!

  • Roby145

    What do you think the stock in Rogers plus stores will be approximately? Like 30 or s that too much? Foes 6 am kunung up for the store that opens at 10 provide me with a Hugh chance fo getting an iPhone 4 doesn't matter the am out of space?

  • Chad

    In London Ontario, should I go to an Apple Store in Mississauga or to a Rogers or Best Buy here in London on Friday?

  • djepsilon

    Daaaah! I'm going to be in Parksville, BC on the 30th. Anyone live in Parksville who could tell me where to lineup? lol

    How the hell am I going to get this phone? I guess I'm going to have to call Rogers and pray I get through.

  • Mikem5350

    I don't know about Rogers, but according to the Future shop I called yesterday, they said they only have 14 of the new iphones. I guess I won't be going to Future shop then

  • Adrian

    FINALLY

  • Joker Eh

    What does the pricing matter right now? You want it now, you are going to buy it now no matter what.

  • Joker Eh

    Thats a long drive for a phone. Your best bet is go to Rogers in London.

  • Mitch

    does anybody know if rogers is opening early for the launch?

  • Khanh

    I called Rogers about that. They don't know how many they'll have or if they'll be opening early!

  • wuju

    On a side note regarding Apple Store opening hours on Friday, anyone know when? Are the the same for all provinces? In particular the Apple Store in downtown Montreal. thanks.

  • Hyperextension

    My Rogers store in Milton had less than 10 devices total on launch day for the 3GS. Take that how you will.

  • win7heartsiphone

    That all depends on the hup eligibility. If they don't do something like AT&T where existing customers were able to get the phone for the same price as new customers before their two years were up I'm going to have to wait another month or so. I'm just anxious! πŸ˜›

  • Harzinder

    Tha means ulocked iphones will only be avialable through Apple stores and will not lock when you activate them with your carrier of choice.

  • Tyler

    Will we know anytim soon if Telus is going to offer a special early upgrade like Rogers most likely is, I'm currently yr and 7 months into my 3 yr contract. What do you think my chances of getting it for the 299 price are?

  • Ex

    If you buy them full price at Apple, then yes.

  • roadcarver

    I signed up at Roger's site to be informed yet, iphoneincanada blog still informs me first. I bet they just took my email and sold it to someone else!

  • slicecom

    Updating that image must have taken a lot of work on Rogers' part. I don't expect any more updates for a few days.

  • Helvetica

    I agree. Go to Bestbuy. Square One and Sherway are likely to be very busy places.

  • @roadcarver … Same here! No updates from Rogers at all lol. Ill be in Victoria on Friday, could anyone point me where to go for a Rogers store?

  • Joker Eh

    Yeah I was at a Rogers store for the 3G launch and I was 6th in line. And I didn't get what I wanted. Unless I wanted a white 8gb I would have got one.

    So my assumption they will have more 16gb versions than the 32gb version.

  • Darkphos

    I called yesterday; you need to have less of 6 months on your actual contract to get Ò€œtheÒ€ price for a 3 years contract. In my case, I am on hold for 4 months or I have to spend 180$ to cancel my actual contract.

  • Guest

    I'm in London as well, I'm going to Best Buy in Masonville, probably around 5am. I considered going to the Apple Store in Mississauga, but as that is the only Apple Store for quite some distance I figure it will be insane.

  • Tyler

    That is really lame, so at yr and 7 months in I can't get anything? mines well just buy outright at Apple Store hey.

  • F.Der

    Eaton Centre in Montreal or Toronto?

  • Megavidiot

    Not if you under a comercial contract (company phone plan) from what I understand you need to go to the specific store (roger’s, Bell etc.)
    anybody else know different?

  • It was very good news for me. My HUP wasn’t supposed to be until September, so now I get to upgrade Friday. πŸ™‚

  • Tyler

    Any idea how fast the Apple store will ship the iPhone 4 if you buy it online? If I buy it on Friday I definitely wouldn't get it that day would I

  • fidoiphoneguy

    Just spoke with a FIDO rep directly who says, the APPLE STORE can access everything FIDO stores can (ie: i can use Fido dollars, it will appear on my invoice (i won't have to pay on the day) and i can renew my contract (for fido customers, that's 14mths BEFORE ur contract ends, you can renew).

    Snags: If you use fido dollars, you HAVE to resign a 3year data plan as well as a 3yr voice plan. UG.

    But all can be done at the applestore where, i hope, they will have more stock.

    Eaton Centre for me… where's everyone waiting?!?!?! Can we even get into the centre to wait?

  • Jeff

    I have been frequenting these comments for the last few weeks, and I just want to ask a questions (similar to one before) to ease my mind a little.

    For me, I am confident that I am eligible for an upgrade since I got the iPhone 3G at launch (about 25 months ago).

    My brother however, got a dumphone (samsung galaxy I think) July 30th of last year from Rogers. About a week ago he called asking when he was eligible to upgrade (just in general) he was at first told July 30th 2011, but after insisting he heard that it was a 1 year policy if you have a dumphone, someone informed him that he would be eligible at August 1st this year. Now this was kind of a pain to him because it's two days after the iPhone 4 launch and they will most likely all be sold out.

    With this new information about if you purchase before June 7th 2010 coming to light I assume he would now be eligible. My question are:

    a) is he going to have to pay a ridiculous amount for the new iPhone or will it be maybe $100 premium over the standard 199/299 prices (please just speculate)

    b) how certain is this new information about the June 7th date? And will Rogers eventually make this public, or will it stay private.

    I really don't want to drag my brother along on Friday and make him wait with me for hours and for him to ultimately be refused an iPhone. Do you guys like his chances?

  • Hyperextension

    August 1, 2010, Rogers site will still say “Coming July 30th” if they progress at the speed they already have been.

  • Dominator

    We are getting the iPhone on July 30th? I did not know that… Thanks Rogers, now I can sleep at night.

  • Krakers

    HI, Can anybody answer that: Will bestbuy sell unlocked iphones? Thanks

  • Existing Rogers customer, now with a regular phone, 1 year or so into my contract. Has been on contract with them (with that number) for 14 years.
    Will add a new customer, could transfer regular phone to my mom & get iPhone4 as new contract/phone or upgrade and start new for my mom… Either saves the most money, I'll do.
    Want to negociate & use all this as leverage. Don't care as much about iPhone4 price as contract/plan price.

    My problem: To negociate this, don't I need to be on the phone, with access to retention department???
    If I'm in a Rogers store on Friday am, it'll be pretty hard to convince them I'll go to Bell instead. And the guys at the counter won't be able to negociate anything.

    If I call, do I have a chance to get the iPhone4, how do they handle it, do they have a good stock?
    I'm OK if it means I won't have it until the middle of next week, because of delievery, but that's it!

    Thanks

  • Lillico1

    just got off the phone with a apple store rep at west edmonton mall, you can upgrade your iphone if you are on a contract with rogers at the apple store

  • fordsurf

    As a Rogers customers do we have to go to a Rogers store? Or can we do Apple / BestBuy?

  • Brian

    The apple stores won't sell out, there were plenty of 3GS in store, I bought mine 3 days after launch and my girlfriend did, four weeks after and never sold out,

    And this iPhone has a defective antenna so less people will be buying now that the info is out. The states sold a lot before the issue was discovered.

  • Tfr

    Is it the same with Rogers? I was wondering how it works if you are buying on contract from the Apple Store (Eton Centre for me too). Are they able to help you sign up, choose the best data plan etc?

    We are currently on old Nokia DumbPhones from the end of 2007 so will definately be eligible, but we have no data plans yet so i'm a bit worried about how this will all get set up if I go to the Apple Store.

  • IPhone4Ready

    I read somewhere that Rogers requires you to have a data plan in order to upgrade now. Does anyone know if this is true?

  • 11thIndian

    At this point, I'm sort of hoping that they do keep any big press releases until the last minute. Ultimately, less press means less line-ups for those of us in the know on Friday morning. Selfish sure, but what the heck!

  • fidoiphoneguy

    you can go to the applestore.. they have the same records rogers do. but you can't haggle a contract if you need to (ie: if you have a grandfathered contract, plan etc)

  • fidoiphoneguy

    i also heard this rumour is true

  • Slammed Civic

    fidos page just went up aswell

  • fidoiphoneguy

    i can't speak for rogers.. but as for Fido i can go to the apple store and they have access to the same records Fido does. as for picking the right plan, they must have all the same info.. prepare yourself before you go in and look on the website.. right now there really are only two plans with everyhting included.. $65 and $80 iphone plan.. though they say that could change friday.

  • asdmd

    hey what time you hitting up eaton centre id def like some company?

  • JSoul

    I signed up with Rogers, Fido AND Apple and have never heard anything. This is the only site that has kept me updated. Any word on the price?

  • Ninjakid

    It seems from the marketing material that they won't. I tink you have to sign up at the store for a carrier there. I think apple is the only source for clean phones.

  • rorypiper

    Awesome. Some one at Rogers figured out how to type 15 characters and 2 spaces. It is ridiculous that they wait this long to announce something. We still don't really no anything about early HUP, except for a few rumors. I guess they know people will buy this phone, regardless of price/plans/whatever, so they don't need to announce anything?!

  • Ex

    No

  • Ex

    Either one

  • kerv

    Anyone know if BestBuy will be selling phones at a non contract price to buy an unlocked phone? Or do you have to sign up for a contract when buying there?

  • Marco_p_26

    if u want to have an iphone u dont need to have a data plan they will try to get u on it but u dont have too trust me i had it and then got rid of it

  • Ex

    No unlocked iPhones at Best Buy. No matter the price paid.

  • Marco_P_26

    u can buy it at rogers/bestbuy but im not sure about apple

  • Bludragonflie

    i signed up on all 4 sites (rogers bell telus and apple) and yeah iphoneincanada still informed us all first

  • I was told by a Rogers CSR that whole “as long as you bought your last phone before June 7th” was true when I called yesterday to ask my HUP date.

  • The June 7th thing is most likely correct–the leaks are pretty well-backed up. Assuming it is, your brother will be eligible. As for pricing, I doubt he'll get the $199/299 especially with a dumbphone (still possible, though…), so I'd say yeah, +$100 sounds accurate, so $299/399.

  • Bludragonflie

    well i called them today and they still said they dont have any updates at all about this, the guy said it might be updated on thursday night at midnight

  • marcr

    I dont know about Apple but you can get it at Best Buy for sure. Thats where I got my 3GS and plan on getting the 4.

  • Ex

    Funny how that works.

    πŸ™‚

  • Matt

    Or that should be the first place you go. When the iPad launched, Apple and Best Buy @ Eaton Centre sold out fast, while Future Shop across the street said there was 1-2 in line at opening and still had stock all day. Take the road that's less talked about.

  • Anonymous

    id like to know this to. i called earlier today and the sales rep said i wouldnt be eligible for a new phone cuz i have 11 months left on a 2 year contract. when i asked about a HUP similar to rogers they said they wouldn’t know till later. im keeping my fingers crossed!

  • dPav

    Will I be able to order an iPhone 4 online at midnight on Friday?

  • Phonecollector

    There will be an additional pricing option… Locked, unlocked and soon to be anounced…..You'll find out.

  • Timespring

    I'm guessing that Rogers don't know because right now they have so little quantities… Imagine the backlash if you do a launch event at a store, and only have 10-20 phones… I wouldn't be happy!

  • Nic

    This may seem stupid but I will actually line up for an iphone even up to 7 hours, only for a white one though. Does anybody know whether or not the white iphone will be up for sale on the 30th as well?

  • fidoiphoneguy

    white isn't available until end of the year for sure

  • rorypiper

    Yeah, been hearing that a lot, so crossing my fingers. πŸ˜‰

  • ty

    what time on friday can we start calling rogers csr to order the iphone? is it 6am est??

  • why cant we have pre-order like the americans, id really prefer not to line up at the apple store

  • k black

    these guys were useless for providing information……iPhoneincanada.ca ownes all those useless sites

  • Noahattic

    i talk to my local rogers store yesterday as well. they told me their store is getting only 5 in stock on the launch day, and then we have to wait to the mid of august for the large amount of supply.

    i don’t think the big press release will affect the lineup in the friday morning b/c only the ppl who’re desperate to iphone 4 will lineup in the morning and forget their work or school….. and those ppl are clearly know the phone is coming on friday. but the PR will affect the lineup on saturday for sure!!!!

    at this point, i just hope they will release the details of HUP!! since the majority of ppl buying the iphone 4 have an iphone already..

    anyhow, clearly, if you are 2 years into the contract, you’re totally fine to upgrade at $200 for 16gb on july 30th.

  • Jarndt08

    All carrier stores (telus/rogers etc) are only going to have 15-20 phones. Apple stores will have enogh for launch weekend.

  • Noahattic

    agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if we have a carriers like verizon pushing the android phones that much, game will be changing at least a bit…

    our market needs to be more competitive!! if winds is not using AWS+, they could be the game changer!

  • Paddlesup

    Well my palm and 3 year contact end today with rogers!!!
    I wish the sites had the prices and plans up for Iphone 4 so I could compare…
    Any suggestions on the best company/plan for iphone?
    Or should I buy the phone from Apple and go month to month??
    thanks for your help

  • AnonoMaus

    I spoke to a Rogers rep on the phone and he said if i go to the Apple store on launch day, they can't give me an iPhone 4 based on my HUP. Apple Stores only sell the iPhone 4 through a new contract, not a renewed one…can anyone clarify this?

  • HESOMAD

    LOL TOOK ROGERS 2 WEEKS TO PHOTOSHOP July 30th.

    OH LAWDY
    HERP
    DERP

  • HESOMAD

    Have fun waiting until December.

  • Jarndt08

    Thats not true at all. I upgraded from my 3G to my 3GS through my upgrade at the apple store. They have full access

  • Hyperextension

    Approximately 68 hours until I have an iPhone4 in my hands!!! But who's counting? LOL

  • HESOMAD

    You won't get it. They'll run out of stock.

  • Jarndt08

    I've been hearing through the comments on here that you can no longer call and order a phone on the phone, you may want to call and see if there is any truth in that.

  • The Rogers dealer inside Tillicum Mall had iPhone 3G stock on launch day.

  • Hyperextension

    That is an interesting wrinkle and one that I haven't heard yet. I don't think that is true. In the USA you could do it, so I do not see why we can't. I really hope it is untrue.

  • 6daniel

    you not the only one πŸ˜‰

  • Harrison

    Will Data plans change when the new Iphone comes out?

  • Sounds like you're excited.

    iPhone 4. Where is the iPhone 4? I need an iPhone 4.

  • Jarndt08

    AGREED!

  • Hyperextension

    Bet you an unlocked iPhone4 that I will have one this Friday. LOL

  • πŸ™‚

  • Figilswif

    All the companies are pretty much the same. If you live in city with the startup wireless companies such as Wind Mobile I would suggest buying it at full price unlocked and then sign up with someone like Wind mobile because they are SO cheap but if you live somewhere else I suggest getting a contract because otherwise you're going to pay a lot for data and phone service.

  • Taking a move from Apple!

  • Ex

    Wrong.
    Apple can upgrade you.

  • Visit a Rogers Wireless dealer in Nanaimo on your way up there.

    Rutherford Road
    Nanaimo, BC V9T 4K6, Canada
    (250) 729-0108

  • refraxion

    Would it be possible for me to get early HUP with FIDO (If I have 17 months left on contract? I have the iPhone 3G) with the promotional pricing of 199/299? Did they do this during the 3GS promo?

  • You are evil. πŸ˜‰

  • Tmargery77

    Hey I am new to this forum, and maybe this question has been answered but… will Fido be selling unlocked phones or will will I be able to use my Fido dollars to buy an unlocked phone at the Apple Store? Thanks in advance. Im hoping Ex or Joy can answer this, or anyone really

  • Guest

    Hey Ex if i go to best buy i can buy iphone for full price but locked to a specific carrier i choose right? like i can go there and just buy the phone outright full price?

  • Heep74

    As much as people get ripped off by Rogers (I too hate them with a passion), BUT I recommend Rogers. I'm an regional airline pilot and go through cities from one Canadian coast to the other.

    Rogers' GSM network is far superior. Telus and Bell are still in the slow process of overlapping their CDMA network with 3G (they'll also have higher costs for keeping 2 networks going at the same time going forward). What is important though is that when you loose 3G coverage with Bell and Telus, your phone will not revert to the slower older EDGE which the Iphone is capable of running on, while your Rogers phone will continue to have digital coverage on EDGE when 3G is unavailable.

    Essentially, your Iphone will work in more places, particularly in rural areas. In terms of pricing, I'd say all bug 3 are exactly the same. Also, rogers lets you view live (up to 4 hrs old) data/airtime/text usage online so you can keep your data plan in check. That can keep you in check.

    Lastly, their retention an be ok if you make it through your 3 yr contract. I've negotiated 1000min canada wide long distance for $5 a month and unlimited evenings after 6pm not 9pm for free, etc when my contract expired to remain with them. I eligible for new customer hardware upgrade pricing after 12 months as well.

    Someone must have drugged me, because I'm usually very angry with Rogers for reasons such as a complete void of information regarding the Iphone 4, then further lying to us on their customer service line and email responses saying that they know nothing. When in fact they DO.

  • Takieya

    I just spoke to someone at Rogers and they told me they'd have no pricing information until Friday, but for customers with Rogers already, midnight Thursday into Friday he said we'd be able to check pricing for the iPhone 4 on the website.

  • Heep74

    Have you been smoking something?

  • Frozen

    Why would you want an iPhone 4 without a data plan? Might as well just buy an iPod touch or wait for the new model coming this fall

  • Tine

    Well, it does matter actually. I am with Rogers and wanted to switch to Fido on Friday. Now if Fido charges 699$ to a new customer, even with a contract, I’ll have to think about it a bit. Might be worth getting it directly from Apple then. Or even yet, give up on the Fido idea alltogether and get a 32g from rogers for 299…

  • Capo

    I called rogers yseterday and asked if i could preorder the iphone 4 over the phone and they said that you no longer could over the phone, but you can still preorder through the rogers' website and it will arrive within 3-5 business days. They also said something about being able to preorder starting Thursday (July 29), but don't quote me on that part.

  • +1

    The real beauty of the iPhone is having a data plan.

  • Jarndt08

    @Heep74 hahahaha I was thinking the same thing!

  • Capo

    i spoke to rogers yesterday and i insisted i did not want a data plan, but they told me (2 different CSRs, too… i double checked to make sure) that a data plan for the iphone 4 (and all other smart phones) is now mandatory.

  • Tommy

    Will I be able to order an iPhone 4 online at midnight on Friday?

  • If you want, yes, you can go to a carrier store (I believe best buy/future shop do this thing too), pay the full price for the phone, and get it without a contract but locked to that carrier. I don't see why you'd want to do that, though–you can get a full-price phone from the apple store for about the same price (literally about $20 more or less if it differs at all) that isn't locked…while you're paying, might as well have it be unlocked.

  • Fido will not be selling unlocked phones. They will sell the usual ~$200/300 subsidized, contract-based phones, and the full-price phones contract-free but locked. Only place to get it unlocked is the Apple Store. I don't know if you'd be able to use your fido dollars for that, though.

  • Maybe, but I don't really think so. At most, Rogers–for example–might bring back the limited-time promotional 6GB/$30 plan.

  • Actually, Wind's network doesn't support the iPhone–if I recall, it either supports only upload or only download, but not both (you need both for the phone to work on their network).

  • Elducker

    Just logged into my Rogers account page. Under Hardware, there appeared a new link between Upgrade my Phone and Upgrade to iPhone…it said Upgrade my iPhone. The link is there as the page loads, then it disappears. Anyone else see it?!

  • Guest of the day

    so if I get my unlocked iP4 from Apple on Friday, where do I get my Rogers micro sim??
    thanks!

  • Hyperextension

    You will get a micro SIM with the phone no matter where you purchase it. In order to use it, you will need to activate it with the carrier of your choice. If you are already with Rogers (as an example), you simply call them and give them the new SIM card number and they will transfer your account to that SIM and you are good to go.

  • Yeah, white iPhone's been delayed until later in the year, probably the very end. Personally, I think they'll just decide to cancel the white one altogether–halfway into the lifecycle, I don't see it being worth this much trouble.

  • Hyperextension

    Yes. I noticed this a while ago. Usually when you clicked on upgrade to iPhone, it would take you to the 3G and 3GS page. Now it does nothing. Just seems to refresh the page.

  • A lot of stores have had exactly that amount for the last two iPhone launches. That's why you've gotta line up! Personally, the only reason that I see as making any sense for the carriers to be withholding info for this long is to prevent the others from changing their prices to undercut them.

  • Hyperextension

    Oops. I misunderstood you. I can see it now. There are 3 links and the one disappears quickly. I have been trying to click it but it is too fast.

  • I think they do sell the full-price/contract-free ones that are carrier-locked, though; like the carrier stores do.

  • Hyperextension

    Oh I am. The iPhone is one of the only things I let myself get this excited for. I don't gamble, don't drink heavily, don't spend like a wild man on anything else. When a new iPhone comes out, I treat myself LOL

  • When I got my 3G (a week after it was released), they (Rogers) made me get a data plan. I was pretty upset as it added $30/month to my plan, but I could not have been more wrong–having an iPhone with a data plan can change your everyday life in so many ways. And $30/month for 6GB? Rogers surprises me from time to time…

  • Thursday at midnight? Not going to happen. They want people to line up at their stores both so they sell as much as possible, and for media attention. At the VERY latest, thursday in the early afternoon–but I'd say the same time tomorrow is much more likely.

  • Any of the three.

  • Hyperextension

    The more I look on this, the more I think I may be wrong. Sounds like you have to buy a SIM from a carrier. As per Apple's site: “#
    ItÒ€ℒs easy to set up.

    Get a compatible SIM (iPhone 3GS) or micro-SIM card (iPhone 4) and select a plan from the carrier of your choice. Then insert the card and set up your iPhone using iTunes on your Mac or PC. With a few clicks, you can start making calls.”

  • JR
  • JR
  • asdmd

    Why hasn't apple.ca made an update, it their product?

  • Elducker

    Yeah, the link disappears very quickly…the only reason I saw it was because i was using my 3G at the time…and Safari loads pages SLOW on 4.0…so I saw it easily. Tried to spot it on my PC…but it loads too fast to catch it!

  • Houtan_trip

    NEED HELP

    I already have a phone whit rogers i will upgrade on friday!
    A) i go and try to find a rogers store that will have it on friday.

    b) go to a local mall that has a apple store. get the phone. ( my PROBLEM is how the process is and is it different)
    1. they switch my phones i come home happy ( same thing as rogers)
    2. my process would be different and complicated ( please help me)

    please help sorry for my English. i am french.

  • Davidortmeier

    Is the iPhone from fido, Rogers, Telus and bell locked or can I use it with any sim?

  • Lwynter

    I'm from Mississauga and will be venturing to Square one Friday morning… I was going to line up at rogers, but is the consensus that it would be far superior to go to Apple seeing as apparently they'll have a far larger stock available? I have no plans to buy an unlocked phone and am eligible for the 199/299 pricing options… Just wanted to confirm that seems like the best plan of action.

    I honestly do not anticipate crazy line ups as they were for 3g and to a much lesser extent, 3gs… there's simply not enough public information available.. but we'll see. Several rogers stores estimated 15-20 stock per store and flat out told me not to bother lining up ridiculously early… I'll show up an hour early and see how it works out, I think.

    But just to clarify – if we have a choice between Rogers or Apple store – Apple is the place to be?

  • asdmd

    It will be locked to the carrier you choose unless you purchase an unlocked iphone from Apple.

  • You can try changing it to 500MB for $25.

    Or, call retentions to negotiate a better plan. Check our forums to see what
    people have been able to get.

  • Ex

    Yes, full price and locked.

  • Ex

    From Apple

  • Ex

    That's correct. Full price but locked.

  • Rogersucks!

    Why is it that other countries already have all the details (pricing, plans, etc.) and we here in Canada get screwed?? Unreal…..

    http://iphoneinaustralia.com/

  • Rogersucks!

    Why is it that other countries already have all the details (pricing, plans, etc.) and we here in Canada get screwed?? Unreal…..

    http://iphoneinaustralia.com/

  • Ex

    Locked

  • Harzinder

    I just spoke to CSR at Best Buy and he told me that even if we buy iphone 4 unlocked from Apple store. It will locked it self to the carrier once you set it up with your carrier e.g. Roges, Fido or Telus.

    Then what is the point buying an ulocked one from Apple store.

  • Fra

    Hello Ex,

    Do you know what time the Apple Store in the Montreal (Downtown) will open on July 30th?

    Thank you so much!!!!!!

  • Mikehunt22

    I’m still waiting for rogers email that the ipad is here

  • Mikehunt22

    I’m still waiting for rogers email that the ipad is here

  • Wrong. He's wrong. Take the words from FS/BB/Rogers/Telus/Bell with a grain
    of salt.

  • Harzinder

    You won't be able to order it over the phone with CSR. It has to be either online, or in robber's store or apple, bestbuy stores.

  • Ex

    Incorrect.

  • Ex

    Should be 8am

  • I

  • refraxion

    Got this information somewhere else!

    Do you want to find out if you're eligible for an iPhone 4 upgrade with Fido? The Fido website has the system in place to check, but no interface. So here's how you can do it.

    fido.ca/web/com/fido/portlets/handset/iphoneRequest/upgradeEligibility.jsp?ctn=7805555555&postalCode=A1A1A1

    Change 7805555555 to your phone number (no spaces, no dashes). And change A1A1A1 to your postal code (all uppercase and no spaces).

    If it returns H:

    “You are eligible to upgrade to an iPhone4 at the special price of $199 for 16GB or $299 for 32GB, with a 3 year Fido Agreement. FidoDollars applicable. Certain conditions apply.”

    If it returns M:

    “You are eligible to upgrade to an iPhone4 at $699 for 16GB or $799 for 32GB, with a 3 year Fido Agreement. FidoDollars applicable. In addition, you will receive a $250 Fido Rewards bonus. Certain conditions apply.”

    If it returns S:

    “You are eligible to upgrade to an iPhone4 at $699 for 16GB or $799 for 32GB, with a 3 year Fido Agreement. FidoDollars applicable. In addition, you will receive a $450 Fido Rewards bonus. Certain conditions apply.”

    If it returns NULL (either you entered wrong info, or you're not with Fido:

    “You are eligible to upgrade to an iPhone4 at $699 for 16GB or $799 for 32GB, with a 3 year Fido Agreement. FidoDollars applicable. In addition, you will receive a $450 Fido Rewards bonus. Certain conditions apply.”

  • It was from our recent Fido iPhone 4 post.

  • Garinektude

    please help!!! my daddy dont want me take iPhne 4 due to expenses family for bread and food but i hide money under pillow and now i save enough for fun with phone but daddy will see and hit me if see and say pay for bread…..

  • Ex

    LOL!

  • theCount

    A bit off topic, but does anyone know if Bell will be offering something similar (immediate hardware upgrade eligibility)?

  • Adam

    I don't think this is correct though. I tested mine and returned M (I should be eligible for M since I am 5 months away from finishing my contract ). To do some further testing, I tried again with my friend's number and postal code who has never had a contract (Should defenatly be an H) and he also got M. Let me know if anyone gets anything other than M or Null

  • Bsk

    there is a decent android in canada with the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. it has a 4.3 inch screen and it has flash,unlike the new iphone and many of the same apps as the iphone as well

  • Bsk

    there is a decent android in canada with the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. it has a 4.3 inch screen and it has flash,unlike the new iphone and many of the same apps as the iphone as well

  • Shawn

    No idea if anyone knows or not, but if I was to go and get my iPhone via upgrade at an Apple store — would they just bill it to my Rogers account instead of paying for it on the spot? I know when I got my 3G at a Rogers store 2 years ago, they just added the cost of the phone to my bill, and that's what I'm counting on again.

    I was planning on hitting up a Rogers store, but if Apple will have more supply, and they can add it to the bill, I may do that instead.

  • Blah

    I spoke with a sales rep at Wireless Wave and they have the same policy only for launch day. They won’t do renewals only on launch day which they will probably sell out onand you would have to wait for the next shipment.

  • Blah

    I spoke with a sales rep at Wireless Wave and they have the same policy only for launch day. They won’t do renewals only on launch day which they will probably sell out onand you would have to wait for the next shipment.

  • Hyperextension

    I just went to a Rogers store and purchased a Micro-SIM for $9.99. Not 100% sure that unlocked units from Apple will come with them or not, but if they do, they I can just sell it. When the last 2 iPhones came out in Canada, it was hours waiting for Rogers to activate them. I can further imagine that the phone lines to transfer your account from one SIM to another, will be experiencing high call volumes. I figured it is easier to get a SIM now, activated it and then when I get the new phone, just pop it in the iPhone4 and voila.

  • techdaft

    wat does it mean Fido Rewards bonus? can this be used to purchasing the phone?

  • Hyperextension

    That is how Rogers does it. How it happens at Apple I don't know.

  • guest

    My understanding is that the new entries to the mobile world cannot run the iPhone as their service is on a different frequency. See an FAQ response from their website:
    “Yes, you can get a WIND SIM card and service without buying a WIND phone, though your phone will need to be unlocked and compatible with our AWS/1700 Mhz/BandIV network. “

  • Boobs'n'Guns

    I got the S. Should be H…I got the 3g on launch day. Confirmed with Fido Rep on the telephone if I am eligible for the 3gs with full subsidy and they said I was good to upgrade to any phone. I would say that this thing isn't finished yet.

  • Guest of the day

    is it include in the iphone price, or will i have to pay on top of it?
    and will Apple activate that micro SIM in store for me?
    Also, I was just wondering…it would be nice to 'unbox' my iP4 by myself…but if I need them to activate the micro SIM for me, that wont be possible, right?
    Thanks Ex!!

  • Mac_Bradjean

    2 questions….

    1. Can I buy an iPhone 4 at the apple store through a bell upgrade (meaning pay $199 for a 16gb)?
    2. Will it be unlocked?

  • J-Money

    I talked to FIDO about the exact same thing. You call and speak to retention, and they give you a number to reference.

    Afterwards, you go and get your iphone4 at the apple store and sign up for any plan (usually the lowest monthly plan) and then you go home and call your phone company and speak to retention. No arguing or anything, just state the confirmation number they gave you when you discussed your retention plan with them, and they will simply instate that plan and cancel the one you signed up for.

    No mess, no drama, nice plan, done deal.
    Flawless Victory.

  • J-Money

    I talked to FIDO about the exact same thing. You call and speak to retention, and they give you a number to reference.

    Afterwards, you go and get your iphone4 at the apple store and sign up for any plan (usually the lowest monthly plan) and then you go home and call your phone company and speak to retention. No arguing or anything, just state the confirmation number they gave you when you discussed your retention plan with them, and they will simply instate that plan and cancel the one you signed up for.

    No mess, no drama, nice plan, done deal.
    Flawless Victory.

  • alex83

    you daddy is right , you dont need an ipone .

  • Ralph

    I heard Bell just got their info that they are introducing a the $30 6 GB plan. This means that Rogers and Fido has a slight chance of bringing this amazing data plan back!

  • Hyperextension

    I am heading to Square One. When I called, the woman said “ok, see you at 3AM”. She said some people camp out. I will not be going that early, but I have the day off and I will go early and nap in my truck if need be. Got my 3GS and games to keep me company. I am guessing Apple will have much more stock than Rogers for sure. The woman I talked to even said that they will have plenty of stock and hope to service everyone who comes that day. That's a tall promise. I think Rogers or Apple should be able to handle it, but like you said, there is hardly any public information so who knows? I get all my info here or online. I have told people of my plans and they respond by asking me “is the new iPhone coming out soon?”

  • techdaft

    i got M as well is this thing legit?

  • Ralph

    1, Yes
    2, No if you are buying it under contract even in the Apple Store

  • From what I've heard, people who signed up on the Rogers info page for the iPad release STILL haven't gotten any updates. Lol!

  • Ex

    They do come with it from Apple

  • FreshPrince

    Hey Ex, do you know if Rogers will be doing online orders on Friday?

  • Ex

    Yes
    No

  • Ex

    No they won't

  • Ex

    The SIM is free.
    Apple activates it or you can do it yourself from home by calling Rogers

  • marcr

    Does anybody know when the Apple store at Square One in Mississauga plans to open? I tied calling but I cant get through to an actual person.

  • Hyperextension

    When I talked to them the other day, they said they will open earlier, but did not know the exact time. I also emailed the mall and they said they will open doors early for Apple line. Regular hours for both the mall and Apple is 1000h. I am assuming they will open at 0800h on launch day. I have heard of openings in the USA at 0700h, but I am banking on 0800h.

  • fidoiphoneguy

    it's official. APPLE STORE IN EATON CENTRE IS OPEN AT 7AM.. the sign just went up.. i have a photo, but don't know how to post..what time are people going! WANT TO MEET UP!

  • asdmd

    What time you thinking of meeting up, im in!

  • AnonoMaus

    If i have any outstanding payments due with Rogers for my cell phone bill, could they restrict me from upgrading to an iPhone 4 until i pay my outstanding dues? … the thought just crossed my mind

  • fidoiphoneguy

    absolutlely. i KNOW for sure with FIDO (same company) i can't do anything without being up to date.

    it comes up on the screen right away.

  • fidoiphoneguy

    my buddy was talking about going after work thrusday, but that seems crazy.. maybe go at 11pm and see what the line's like and then gage from there.. you?

  • Bludragonflie

    seriously so im gonna have to go in and get my contract upgraded

  • asdmd

    I'll start yelling fidoiphoneguy once I get there, do you really think people will be camping out?

  • Scotland Yard

    I called two local Rogers outlets in Greater Vancouver and they both advised their store would open at the regular time on Friday. Neither would discuss whether all of their Iphone 4's were “reserved”.

  • Jointsky

    *******What time on the online apple store, will I be able to purchase the iphone 4 unlocked?**********

  • Shadow

    Wicked!!! Since I am paying $25 for a 512MB plan right now this would be awesome!!!

  • Jhounsell91

    Anyone who thinks the lack of talking is to settle waiting lines is horribly mistaken. Why would those companies want there to be less demand? They want to hype it up as much as possible. Limited supply is usually INTENTIONAL for products like this. They've been making it for a month; they've sold millions in the states; they can make more than enough for a fraction of the market size up here. but be prepared for sold out stores for at least a month. It was the same with the Ipad, video game system producers like nintendo and microsoft do it too. Apple knows people will wait. They'd rather have you waiting in line and know they're gonna sell it to you than risk producing more than they can get rid of once the hype does die down in a couple months. If i was the CEO I'd do it too.

  • een

    Here’s a link to an alleged Bell internal doc.
    Indicates, yes, 6gb for $30.

    http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/

    Fact?
    Fiction?
    We’ll know soon enough.

    een

  • een

    Here’s a link to an alleged Bell internal doc.
    Indicates, yes, 6gb for $30.

    http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/

    Fact?
    Fiction?
    We’ll know soon enough.

    een

  • fidoiphoneguy

    i'm sure there will be. iPad was and this is a bigger launch i think

  • Does anyone know if Bestbuy or Apple can upgrade people that have corporate plans? Corporate plans that are paid by the employee and not the employer.

  • runkpocker

    Called Rogers plus stores in Calgary – none have received any information or stock and have no idea if they will have any for Friday. Seems stores are still out of the loop, as it was me who informed the stores about the July 30th update on the site.

  • Ex

    Both can.

  • phonecollector

    In addition to BELL, Rogers 6GB data can be shared with ipads.

  • You And Me

    hi,
    i have a plan with rogers & if i buy an unlocked iphone from apple store, how do i activate my SIM?
    i guess apple will give me a micro sim with the iphone…do i need to go to rogers store to activate or i can do that in my home ?
    thanks

  • But that's 10 dollars extra.

  • 1. Yes, if you’re upgrade eligible.
    2. Not at that price, the unlocked phones will start at about $650 at least.

  • 1. Yes, if you’re upgrade eligible.
    2. Not at that price, the unlocked phones will start at about $650 at least.

  • Thanks Ex for answering my question so quick but do these stores prefer new customers and not deal with people that want to upgrade? That's what I was hearing from other people that agents sometimes even lie just so that they don't have to process the upgrade and rather do new customers because they get more commission.

  • You know, I was considering going to the Eaton Centre Apple Store myself, and I was thinking: at a mall with an apple store, everybody is going to go there. So, the carrier stores will be empty…good odds? I certainly think so!

    Oh wait, now everybody knows my plan πŸ˜‰

  • You know, I was considering going to the Eaton Centre Apple Store myself, and I was thinking: at a mall with an apple store, everybody is going to go there. So, the carrier stores will be empty…good odds? I certainly think so!

    Oh wait, now everybody knows my plan πŸ˜‰

  • Ex

    Right.
    But Apple Stores don't do commission. Which is why it's better to go there.

  • Ex

    Apple or you can do it

  • The iPhone 4 has flash. If you want to troll, check your facts first, and you will accomplish great things!

  • The iPhone 4 has flash. If you want to troll, check your facts first, and you will accomplish great things!

  • nyrol

    Do you think that a futureshop would have these on launch day? A sales rep was less than helpful. Also, would it be for any carrier?

  • kyuuuuuuh

    can you buy a locked iphone from apple if youre eligible for an upgrade? the 16gb for 199$? or do i have to go directly to a rogers store?

  • Ex

    Either

  • Fallinin

    i put in my phone number and postal code where you and it returned null even after triple checking the info, and i most definitely with fido. so i wouldn't trust this thing

  • Mister_totoro

    I tried both my number and postal code and my wife's and they both come up “NULL”. We are both with Fido and I got the 3G 2 years ago. She hasnt upgraded for over 3 years.

  • this dude

    anyone else notice on the rogers site that all the iphone value packs have been removed?

  • Mase

    I just wanted to know if I want to get it for $199 can I sign a contract extension in the apple store or do i have to do it with my carrier

  • Ex

    Nope, they are still there.

  • Dman

    Not sure how your doing that considering Bell only offers iPhone combo plans, $50 being the one that includes the 500mb option. I do hope they do some how incorporate a cheap 6GB option like the Rogers customers got. Still hoping to hear some talk about whether Bell customers will get an early upgrade as well. Rogers customers aren't the only one's who own iPhones, sure does seem like it on this site though seems like 95% of the people on this site are with Rogers.

  • Guest

    Is there any early upgrade option from Telus if you’re under contract with a 3GS already in the first year?

  • Guest

    Is there any early upgrade option from Telus if you’re under contract with a 3GS already in the first year?

  • Tine

    Oooh, that sucks! I wanted to switch from Rogers to Fido and get the iphone 4, but not if I have to pay 699 for the phone πŸ™

  • Chris

    Ok so my contract with Bell ended on July 12th and I am planning on leaving to go to Telus and get an iPhone 4. Do I have to give them some kind of notice before I leave or can I just go to a Telus store and sign a new contract and tell Bell to cancel my service?

  • Hyperextension

    Confirmed with Apple Store and Square One Mall. Doors will be open at 0700h on Friday. They will be carrying unlocked versions in store (not just online) and all carrier versions as well. There is a 2 device limit per person. Substantial stock expected and some has arrived already.

  • een

    Hey Ralph,

    Just to clarify, this is NOT the $35 5GB iPAD plan, right?

    It's an honest-to-God $30/6GB data plan for iPhone?

    Because that. Would. Be. AWESOME!

    Now, please indicate where your info comes from.
    We require verification here, son. πŸ˜‰

    een

  • Vazandrew

    why is there still no information from virgin mobile? i find it hard to believe that they wouldn’t have them on the 30th but it seems a little sketchy that the page says coming soon less than 3 days before release.

  • Vazandrew

    why is there still no information from virgin mobile? i find it hard to believe that they wouldn’t have them on the 30th but it seems a little sketchy that the page says coming soon less than 3 days before release.

  • Adrian

    I was going to do my regular line up for 4 hours at the rogers plus store, but I think I will just skip that and go to the apple store instead. The fairview mall store opens at 7am on Friday. I know this has been asked before, but I'm not sure if a firm responce was given. If I bought my iPhones at the Apple store but through my rogers account (on contract), would I have to pay for them at point of sale, or would they be charged to my rogers account?

    I'm thinking that the Apple store will just verify my upgrade eligibility and charge the phones to my account….right or wrong?

  • Guest

    He probably didn’t mean a camera flash. He probably meant flash support for videos and such. If you want to defend something, don’t act like a tool and you will make more friends!

  • Guest

    He probably didn’t mean a camera flash. He probably meant flash support for videos and such. If you want to defend something, don’t act like a tool and you will make more friends!

  • een

    Chris?

    If you want to keep your current number go to Telus first and they will initiate the transfer from Bell and the ending of your service with them.
    If you cancel with Bell first you will lose your cell number and have to get a new one.

    een

  • Fashioncarbs

    Listen, I saw my Bell guy in Woodstock, NB and he said, “don't bother, because there are only 500 being distributed in all of Canada!”

  • Chris

    Does anyone know if there will be any other way to order on Friday other than waiting in line?? ie. over the phone, or online.

  • draz

    Check early morning… like 4am or 5am or something. Don't quote me on this though it is up to Apple and when they want to make available their online orders.

  • draz

    Hardware upgrades are charged through your carrier account. If you buy it unlocked for full price then you pay the store directly at point of sale.

  • draz

    Apple store can do this.

  • Jaxon

    Don't believe everything you hear…..

  • Vartanarsen

    Fairview Pointe Claire CONFIRMED OFFICIAL:
    7:00 AM doors open.
    People should wait in line outside BestBuy's Mall Entrance.

    OFFICIAL PRICE: $659…from the Horse's Mouth!!!!!!

  • draz

    You can order it online for the full price unlocked from the Apple website.
    The carriers have not announced any plans about obtaining a hardware upgrade through their own website. Rogers does not offer hardware upgrades over the phone, you must go in store.

  • draz

    That is a bunch of bull. Toronto alone will get over 500 for sure. The other big cities across Canada will also get several hundred to distribute to the retailers.

  • Adrian

    thanks for the clarification Draz.

  • Just called the Rogers authorized dealer near my place, and they said that while he's heard about the early upgrade eligability, Rogers might not do the early HUP on launch date. Anyone else hear similar things?

  • asdmd

    I wish they would post up their new iphone plans too. I need a new phone with a new contract and right now we have a litte options right now to actually compare btw bell, telus, rogers and virgin. Is the only way to wait and watch Ex?

  • They haven't been moved. Just rearranged on the website. Into the specific iPhone section that's been there for a year and a half. Calm.

  • Boobs'n'Guns

    Nice, thanks man. C u there!!!!!!!!!!! Il be the guy with the grey alpinestars baseball hat and bluejeans. If im there first il hold you a spot.

  • marxster

    Is it just me or is this blatant collusion between the big telcos offending anyone else? Judging by the prices I've seen on rumor mills, the phone is going to cost exactly the same thing with all companies. I hear americans say they're jealous of the fact that we have many companies selling the phone but there really is no competition because they all screw us collectively.

    Are politicians going to get of their fat behinds to look into this or what?

    Also, we're still the only country in the world where we have to sign up for a 3-year contract. We must love taking it up the …

  • 4daysss

    how true is this source..? if this is right then im there… πŸ˜€

  • Tyler

    Hey Ex or Gary, will you be able to buy a locked iPhone 4 outright from Futureshop or Bestbuy? I heard from a buddy that you might not be able to from Futureshop and that they will only sell them on contract?

    Any info on this would be awesome, thanks!

  • iParsa

    Is FIOD going to introduce their 6GB/$30 data plan again? I'm a 1st gen user and didn't get 3G with that data plan (I regret the data plan not getting the 3G(S) πŸ˜‰ ) Anywho, have you guys heared anythign about that? PLEASE SAY YES!!!! πŸ˜€ πŸ˜‰

  • Matt

    Tell your Bell guy he knows jack! lol

  • Hyperextension

    Came right from an Apple “genius”. I called and talked to someone about it. I will be there bright and VERY early.

  • I'll be there, but not the night before or in the middle of the night, probably sometime between 5-6 am. I think I've convinced my twin sister to upgrade this Friday, so you might be able to spot us. πŸ˜‰

  • Vartanarsen

    Thanks brother!!!!! I'll lookout for you!!!

  • Tine

    That sounds like a great idea…

  • visualappeal

    My understanding is that it's Apple that dictates the selling price of their products to vendors.

  • JSoul

    According to their website they open at 10:
    http://www.apple.com/ca/retail/saintecatherine/

    are they opening earlier on the 30th?

  • JSoul

    According to their website they open at 10:
    http://www.apple.com/ca/retail/saintecatherine/

    are they opening earlier on the 30th?

  • JR

    Just read an article by the Vancouver Sun…

    “The unlocked phones will be sold in addition to iPhone 4s that are tied to specific wireless carriers, such as Rogers and Bell.”

    “The unlocked versions of the iPhone 4 will sell for $659 and $779 for the 16-gigabyte and 32-GB versions, respectively.”

    “It is expected that the models that are tied to a carrier will be cheaper then the unlocked versions, as they will be subsidized by the carriers and require longer-term contracts.”

    Does this mean that Apple will also be selling Rogers/Telus/Fido phones online on Friday??

  • JR
  • Ex

    The websites wont be updated until closer to friday

  • Ex

    The websites wont be updated until closer to friday

  • Yes

  • Despite my being a satisfied Rogers client, if they refuse to do HUPs on Friday, they will lose my business the minute my contract is up. As it stands, I'm already considering buying the iPhone 4 unlocked and going to Bell, for the better coverage. The one area where I'm less than satisfied is Rogers' utter lack of coverage in the Mont Tremblant area, where I spend quite a bit of time. Unless I'm mistaken, Bell has excellent coverage in that region. I know they did when I was with them, using the CDMA network.

    Do the right thing, Rogers.

  • Kat

    For what it's worth (if there are an Manitobans out there), I called the Winnipeg Apple store and it opens at 7am.

  • Mine just came up with Error 500 — Internal Server Error.

  • Mine just came up with Error 500 — Internal Server Error.

  • I think it also might be the store trying to save as much iPhone4 stock as they can for new customers signups. They make more money that way. My call is that the early HUP will be available on Friday, but it's at the store clerk/agent's discretion whether or not to sell you the damn thing!

  • Guest

    What time will the Apple stores in Vancouver/Downtown on Friday open? (Pacific Center/Oak-ridge Mall) Thanks!

  • Slicktor Y

    Does anyone know if the phone kiosks (wireless etc) in Costco will be carrying the iphone4 on launch???

  • Laura

    i have been told 8am by an employee and have been told that the mall doors will open around 7am as they usually do for the “mall walkers” …so i'll be there around 6:30-6:45 so that i can be near the front of the line when they open at 8am

  • Ex

    7/8AM most likely

  • Ann

    May I know if I buy an unlocked iPhone from Apple Store and then bring it to Fido to activate it. Do I need to commit into a new contract? Thanks.

  • Jarndt08

    I'm still wondering… anyone who has lined up at Rogers/Telus/Bell stores before (not the apple store) When would you recommend being there? I see some people are saying they line up for 4 hours so 4 am to 5 am be there?

  • Ex

    You can do a no contract plan

  • crisco

    anyone from regina, sask lining up?

  • bsk

    man, you lucky that you can choose between three companies for the iphone because in winnipeg only rogers is going to get it because telus doesn't have the netwrok set up and will not be getting the iphone until christmas and this was what i heard from telus

  • Firstly, the Canadian government couldn't care less about inappropriate business practices in the telecommunications industry–otherwise, they would have fixed the plethora of problems there by now.

    Secondly, Apple sets these prices. No carrier would charge less because they hate losing money, and no carrier would charge more because people wouldn't bother with them at that point.

  • Jointsky

    Ive asked this already, what time will we be able to purchase the unlocked iphone 4 from the online store on the 30th?

    Someone give me an answer please!

  • Guest

    If you go to BestBuy.ca and click on their mobile phones section, they will have them in store and they can sell you an iPhone locked to the carrier of your choice and you get 2500 BestBuy Rewardzone points.

  • Kat

    Fido will also be getting the iphone. As for Virgin (which we have), I have no clue.

    MTS and Telus both told me that MTS wouldn't be getting the iphone till at least early next year…

    I'm due for a new phone (as my BB is slowly but surely dying), so buying out the contract and getting the iphone with another provider still worked out to be cheaper than buying a new phone from Telus.

  • I'm wondering if anybody can clarify something for me. This is my first time upgrading my iPhone (had bought a 3G from Rogers shortly after it launched), and I've heard a few people mention how buying a subsidized phone at the Apple Store isn't the best idea because you can't haggle with them, and they cause problems with grandfathered plans. What I'm wondering is if I go in there to just upgrade my phone (assuming I'm upgrade eligible), no plan changes, and I have an older plan (parts of which may not exist today)–including the old 6Gb/$30 promotional data plan–will they let me keep that, or would I have to choose a brand new plan?

  • draz

    You will be able to keep all your plan details just the way you have it now. Whatever you have you keep, they can't take something away from you. If they did without your consent then that is a big problem. If you want to make a deal with your plan then call customer care and make the deal over the phone. You won't get far in store.
    If you bought your 3G shortly after launch so say anytime between July 11th 2008 and July 30th 2008 then you are eligible for an upgrade, if you bought it in August or later in the year then currently you might not be eligible but call the customer care and they can tell you for sure, or walk in to any Rogers authorized stores and they can tell you as well.

  • Alright, great–thanks. I figure as long as I'm not changing a single thing, they shouldn't really be touching the plan at all. Now to decide which store to go to….

  • Calliope

    Has anyone checked with the Apple Store in Oakridge (Vancouver) to see when they'd be open Friday?

  • Manny

    Both malls open at 10am, duno if the apple stores will open earlier.

  • ComputerStriker

    Will we be able to order iPhone 4s from the Rogers online store on the first day it's released?

  • Guest

    lol you just got burned for a burn, thats like burn^2.

  • Guest

    lol you just got burned for a burn, thats like burn^2.

  • Guest

    lol you just got burned for a burn, thats like burn^2.

  • Guest

    lol you just got burned for a burn, thats like burn^2.

  • Guest

    lol you just got burned for a burn, thats like burn^2.

  • Guest

    lol you just got burned for a burn, thats like burn^2.

  • ibobwa

    Just talked to the guy I deal with at my local rogers store here in New Westminster BC,he told me only five rogers stores in BC will be getting the iphone4 and mine isn't one of them.He told me all the other stores wont get it till the next batch are sent out.He said since rogers isn't saying any thing about it he is making his own sign to put in the window for his customers so they aren't camped out side the door for nothing.

  • Does anyone know when the Apple Store in Calgary will be open on Friday (I'm presuming 7am), and is anyone lining up?

  • Ralph_zeroG

    just check http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/ here I found it this morning and I believe is the honest to god 6Gb data plan for iPhone unless they are wrong…

  • Ralph_zeroG

    just check http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/ here I found it this morning and I believe is the honest to god 6Gb data plan for iPhone unless they are wrong…

  • Ralph_zeroG

    just check http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/ here I found it this morning and I believe is the honest to god 6Gb data plan for iPhone unless they are wrong…

  • Ralph_zeroG

    just check http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/ here I found it this morning and I believe is the honest to god 6Gb data plan for iPhone unless they are wrong…

  • Ralph_zeroG

    just check http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/ here I found it this morning and I believe is the honest to god 6Gb data plan for iPhone unless they are wrong…

  • Ralph_zeroG

    just check http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/07/27/bell-putting-6gb-30month-data-plan-on-the-table-for-the-iphone-4/ here I found it this morning and I believe is the honest to god 6Gb data plan for iPhone unless they are wrong…

  • Ex

    hahaha, that is completely incorrect.

  • draz

    4am-5am is nice but depends on the location and how many they get.

  • Guest

    When it comes to Rogers, can I upgrade an existing number with the cheapest data plan for iPhone and then remove it like the next day while changing the sim back to a normal one? I have 3 phones on my contract, 1 of which is eligible for an iPhone upgrade. The phone i use has an awesome iPhone value pack and i don't want to lose it so i plan to use another phone for the upgrade and simply get myself a microsim and swap phones.

  • Hyperextension

    I am just trying to gauge what kind of line up to expect and what time I should be there. Search iPad release Square One on Google, and you will find some pictures of the line up for the iPad release. I am sure the iPhone4 will be a bigger release, but at 0400h, there were only a few people lined up for iPad. At opening, that had swelled to only a hundred or so. They said at 0930h they still were not turning people away. Now, will they have as much stock of the iPhone4 as they did iPad? I don't know. Compare that to the line up at Eaton Center Apple Store in Toronto for the same release, and there were a few hundred people lined up at the same time.

    I think I will be at Square One at 0400h to be safe. I will do a drive by around midnight to see if there are campers and then go from there. What have I got to lose? A few hours of my life? LOL I am off work Friday anyways.

  • Jm Boily

    Fido has now finally updated their website with the July 30th launch date

  • Fallinin

    i really wish it was coming out on thursday instead so that i could go for the saturday shipping with fido, i cant buy it in store because in 16 and my mom would be at work at the time they open the store so i am forced to buy online on the day of

  • anakinskg

    Does any one know if the Apple Store handles the cancelling the contract of your current provider and transferring your number to the new provider? I have about a year left on my contract with Telus and if they don't give me a discount, I'm dropping them.

  • asdmd

    I agree total BS, I called this little corner Rogers shop around my house and even they are getting the phones. She said only 10ish units, but still they getting them.

  • asdmd

    Im thinking yeah you can, the only way to purchase an iphone unlocked will be through apple.

  • Lchan

    Gary or Ex,

    Will Best Buy be getting a decent supply of iPhones? I live in London Ontario and will be lining up between 4-5am, hopefully that gives me a good chance of getting one? Thanks!

  • Ex

    Yes

  • Ama58

    Currently I have an iPhone 3G without the data plan. Does anyone know if I'll be able to pay $199 for the 4G and keep my existing plan?

  • Mike

    Will they have a certain amount of stock that's unlocked and a certain amount of stock just for HUP to certain carriers? I'm looking to get an unlocked 32gb but can't get to the Apple store until Friday afternoon/saturday morning. Just wondering how many you expect them to get and if they'll sell out of unlocked ones early friday

  • Ex

    It's all the same device. Apple Stores lock them during the sale process.

  • Great! Thanks guys, really a

  • Thanks guys, really appreciated!

  • owais

    you will have to get a data plan on top of your current voice plan to get the phone at that price. Sometimes its better to get the plan and then cancel it after a month since the penalty on data plans is a flat $ 100 and savings is afew hundred dollars in most cases.

    FYI. the new phone is iPhone 4. It is not a “4G” iPhone. I am guessing you meant 4th Generation?

  • draz

    I know for Rogers you MUST purchase a data plan of at least $25 to get the subsidized pricing. You can cancel it anytime during that first month and pay a $100 cancellation fee. But otherwise yes you can keep your other existing plan and its features without change.

    I am not sure what the policy is for Bell and Telus

  • draz

    If you got a 3G during the 2008 launch why not use that line and get a 4? If your other lines don't have a data plan already you need to get one in order to get the subsidized pricing. But if you have not reached your 2yr mark then there is nothing wrong with what you are doing and it can be done.

  • owais

    you will need to keep the data plan till the end of your billing cycle for August and then pay an additional $ 100 early cancellation penalty for the data plan. this charge is standard no matter when you cancel the data plan throughout your 3 yr term.

  • Ama58

    Whoops…iPhone 4 =) thx

  • bond

    no iphone 4 for canadians on july 30th..shipment delayed…thats why things were gng slow….bad luck fr us

  • N_Silvia06

    wow..hahaha,,,,

  • N_Silvia06

    wow..hahaha,,,,

  • N_Silvia06

    wow..hahaha,,,,

  • N_Silvia06

    wow..hahaha,,,,

  • N_Silvia06

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  • N_Silvia06

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  • N_Silvia06

    he’s got the point.

  • N_Silvia06

    he’s got the point.

  • N_Silvia06

    he’s got the point.

  • N_Silvia06

    he’s got the point.

  • N_Silvia06

    he’s got the point.

  • Jordan

    no idea but i refuse to go there because i am assuming people will be lined-up a couple hours before, i figure at best buy ill have a better chance and i only have to start lining up at 9 am.

  • Tnemat sucks

    Iphone does not have Flash. It has a camera flash but he is talking about flash (like in flash websites). Before you freak out on someone, grab a brain and quit being so freaking dumb.

  • Tnemat sucks

    Iphone does not have Flash. It has a camera flash but he is talking about flash (like in flash websites). Before you freak out on someone, grab a brain and quit being so freaking dumb.

  • Tnemat sucks

    Iphone does not have Flash. It has a camera flash but he is talking about flash (like in flash websites). Before you freak out on someone, grab a brain and quit being so freaking dumb.

  • Tnemat sucks

    Iphone does not have Flash. It has a camera flash but he is talking about flash (like in flash websites). Before you freak out on someone, grab a brain and quit being so freaking dumb.

  • Tnemat sucks

    Iphone does not have Flash. It has a camera flash but he is talking about flash (like in flash websites). Before you freak out on someone, grab a brain and quit being so freaking dumb.

  • Bsk

    i meant flash as in flash websites like websites with games and not a camera flash because most phones have that now a days

  • mackman6151

    bastards better announce the promo data plan in advance πŸ˜›

  • marcr

    The iPhone does not support flash currently (and per Jobs there is no plan to)…. That is unless you jailbreak it. Even then not all flash websites will work.

  • Ann

    How to camp out at malls like Eaton Centre or Square One? I mean how to know which line is going to fido or apple store or rogers? There are so many entrances. Does anyone know? Thanks.

  • Hyperextension

    This suuuuuuckkkkksss!!

    “Who didn't see this one coming?

    Apple recently announced that the iPhone 4 would reach a wide array of new countries before the end of this month. Beginning this Friday, July 30th, customers can purchase the popular 4th gen Apple smartphone in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, Singapore, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland. Apple is making the device available for purchase through Apple's retail and online stores and Apple Authorized Resellers.

    Today, however, as chronicled by the AFP, supply and regulatory problems have caused more than just a few bumps in the road for Apple's aggressive international marketing push. According to those in the know on iPhone 4 inventories, the countries about to begin selling the iPhone 4 will have such limited inventories that they are bound to sell out almost immediately after the product goes on sale with no clue as to how long it will take for supply to keep pace with demand.

    In addition to widely anticipated supply shortages, one South Korean distributor is “struggling to stop customers defecting to rival smartphones after a delay in its local release.” Regulatory barriers have long been a problem for Apple with regard to getting its products released in a timely fashion in South Korea. When it comes to the iPhone 4, the situation likely won't prove much different. Apple's local spokesman Steve Park tells the AFP that: “Our customers have made the iPhone the top selling smartphone in Korea and we are working very hard to bring them iPhone 4 as soon as possible.”

    For the time being, in the absence of the iPhone 4, many fear a substantial loss in business to rival smartphones that are already very popular in the region, particularly Samsung's Galaxy S. “Many customers who have been weighing which smartphones they should buy are turning to Samsung's Galaxy S as the release of iPhone 4 is being delayed,” said John Park of Daishin Securities.”

  • Jarndt08

    didn't we already know this? All stores except for Apple are going to have 15-20ish and Apple will have lots. What does this change?

  • Timespring

    Just went to the Montreal St-Cath store, and they will be opening at 7:00 AM as well.

    They told me that apple stores will have more than any other store, and they can access everything the rogers stores can too. So no problem to do HUP there.

    P.s. I also went to the Rogers + store (the one on corner of peel/st-cath), and they are opening at 10:00 AM…

    Anyhow, I'll be @ the apple store early friday morning πŸ˜‰

  • asdmd

    Well will be able to order online at futreshop.ca at 12:01 am as they normally do this, and then choose local pick up?

  • Bryce

    Question, Can I just buy an iphone 4 outright from the apple store and put my sim card in from my 3G and have it work? Only reason is because I dont want to do the hardware upgrade option (rogers) Thanks.

  • Theused

    Hey Can anybody tell me if it's just me or my computer, but looks like something is being changed on the rogers website. No pages are loading through Google chrome or internet explorer.

    Maybe they are putting that elgibility tool up on there site as we speak.

  • hendo13

    I'm getting the same thing, must be updating

  • Jaye

    I just noticed on the rogers website that the contents of their webpage does NOT load…all I see is the top menu…
    even clicking on a link on their top menu…the content still does not show…

  • Ex

    No. 3G sim won't fit

  • Jeff

    Working fine for me on Safari and Internet Explorer

  • PhayZer

    where exactly is the apple store on st-cath? i might as well go there since i get off at 7 am

  • runkpocker

    Rogers Video stores in Calgary that also carry cell phones are telling me that they will not get any iphone 4's on Friday. Anyone know if there is any truth to this?

  • runkpocker

    Just noticed – the Upgrade My iPhone link is now working, but only shows the 8GB 3GS..

    Should be any time now…

  • marcr

    It woks for me. However, I cannot go to my account info as it says I have not registered my account with them. I was able to view this information yesterday.

  • Bryce

    sorry forgot. I meant to say I would have to buy a new mico card and put it in. would it then work?

  • Jeff

    Did this all morning for me, so far nothings happend

  • runkpocker

    I have a new page that shows a 3GS option ( I have a 3G)
    Likely will not put the iphone 4 up until Friday.

    It does tell me pricing on a 3yr contract on a 3GS ($99), so it is an indication of HUP eligibility…

  • Timespring

    between crescent and dela montagne

  • Hondanazi

    I am trying to see if Fido will upgrade me as I got my 3GS about 7-9 months ago, plus my buddy at Best Buy is gonna check for me but if all else fails I may see you in the line up. I'll be the guy with a shaved head and a pinch! Save me a spot please!

  • Ex

    Yes.
    Apple will move your account to the new microsim

  • Dayus20

    I just called my local Rogers Store in Montreal and they said they would have some iphone 4 on friday but only for new registration… so how in the world am i suppose to do the HUP.

  • Timespring

    I think they all say that, but if they have the phone in stock, they are not really allowed to do that…

    The idea is that the local stores get more $$$ for a new registration than for a HUP… go to the apple store πŸ˜‰

    Opens at 7AM on friday.

  • Jarndt08

    That's not true. They just get a bigger commision for new sign-ups.

  • Jordan

    if you click on hardware, when the little box loads where all the links are, it shows “upgrade my iphone” but then it quickly disappears. Maybe runkpocker is talking about “upgrade to iphone”

  • Bryce

    does the apple store supply the new micro sim. Are you saying I can do everything at the store all at once if so awesome! last question thank you

  • runkpocker

    Nope.

    I have Upgrade MY iPhone link now πŸ™‚

  • Dayus20

    Timespring: I tought Apple store could'nt make HUP…
    I still don't know if i'm elligible for HUP anyway (the line prolly gonna be awfully long).

    Jrndt08: so if i show up at my local store i can force them to do an HUP since it's just a comission thingny??

  • Ex

    Correct

  • Timespring

    on St-Catherine, between DeLa Montagne, and Crescent:

    1321 Rue Sainte Catherine Ouest

  • Jimmyz1

    which stores will carry them and how many? Vancouver

  • Jaye

    nice!! now…i just wonder if i get there at 730am, will there still be some left?
    Ex…what do you think?? I live in winnipeg.

  • PhayZer

    oh ok i got a rogers store where i work but opens at 9 am ill got at apple first then

  • Ex

    Go to Apple Store

  • Jaye

    Cool, thanks Ex for your reply…so if I go to the only Apple store here in winnipeg by 730 am…do you think my chances of getting an iphone 4 is good???

  • Jarndt08

    I don't think there will be any “force” involved. They can't turn you away, the person probably just said that on the phone because they are clueless and/or greedy.

  • Ex

    Oh ya! They will have hundreds!

  • Jarndt08

    And yes, the Apple can do anything involving hardware upgrading that your local carrier store can do. The only thing you can't do at the Apple store is changed involving your plan

  • Jaye

    thank you for your advice Ex!! greatly appreciated!
    btw, your site is great and seems to be the ONLY one with useful updates and FYI's in regards to the new iphone 4!!

  • Jo7

    We've had an iphone 3G since March of last year. Are we eligible for the upgrade? If so, how much will we pay for each phone?

  • Bryce

    Thank you Ex, your the best!

  • asdmd

    Just to be on the safe side you should call Rogers, or wait for EX to reply. But no harm in calling them and then getting it documented in your account if they will do that.

  • Ex

    If the new Rogers policy is true, then you will be eligible.

    If not, then you won't be eligible until March 2011

  • Hyperextension

    Signage is up at Apple Store Square One. iPhone4 is here July 30, 2010 at 7:00AM.

  • T Mac

    IPHONE 4 RLS DATE JUST UPDATED ON FIDO.CA

    July 30th!!!!

  • ty

    need input on this! or anyone know what time apple store at pacific centre or oakridge will be opening at?

  • Ex

    7am

  • gallick

    They will transfer your number over to the new account provided you can give them your account information from Telus. When that happens you'll incur any cancellation charges from Telus on your next Telus bill.

  • Hondanazi
  • Joe

    my parents are already ligned up at 11:30!

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