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		<title>By: Avoiding Rogers New Incoming Text Message Charges &#124; Faraway, So Close</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avoiding Rogers New Incoming Text Message Charges &#124; Faraway, So Close</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if youâ€™re an existÂ­ing cusÂ­tomer, you can fight this. Via wwwâ€‹.iphoneinâ€‹canadaâ€‹.ca: Do me aÂ favor right now. Go grab your Rogers WireÂ­less monthly bill. Flip to page 2Â and read [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if youâ€™re an existÂ­ing cusÂ­tomer, you can fight this. Via wwwâ€‹.iphoneinâ€‹canadaâ€‹.ca: Do me aÂ favor right now. Go grab your Rogers WireÂ­less monthly bill. Flip to page 2Â and read [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should said you will cancel and get sent to Retentions. Then make  &lt;br&gt;your claims again there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is retentions who will try to keep you as a customer. Most service  &lt;br&gt;level reps could not care less if people want to leave Rogers. They  &lt;br&gt;get their paycheck by answering calls for sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should said you will cancel and get sent to Retentions. Then make  <br />your claims again there.</p>
<p>It is retentions who will try to keep you as a customer. Most service  <br />level reps could not care less if people want to leave Rogers. They  <br />get their paycheck by answering calls for sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Victim</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-73872</link>
		<dc:creator>Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a 47 minutes long argument with Rogers rep + a special services department Rep/incharge (whoever it was), using the same point 15 argument along with making my point clear to them that Incoming messages are not in my or anyone&#039;s control and it&#039;s a rip off&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, he outright refused it, I mean DENIED it that Point 15 in Terms of Service have even anything to do with this Incoming SMS charges. He said it&#039;s an open ended statement for multiple different services Rogers is offering and does not apply on SMS incoming charges, which is definite charge and WILL NOT change and apply on everybody. When I pushed the argument further, he started twisting things around and said my commitment with rogers is only until End of the month, he will take that charge off, but then from next month, I will have to choose between Pay the (unfair) charges or cancel the service (he was blunt). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moreover, when I asked if he can give me anything in writing that whatever he said will apply on my account, he refused to give me anything in writing about the change and said Rogers don&#039;t do that, it can change the terms anytime it wants and the customer have to abide by it, and if they don&#039;t like it, they can cancel the service. (Whatever happened to retaining customers?)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I wasted about 47 minutes of argument by shooting my blood pressure up and availing no success. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That Number 15. under Terms of Service does not work, and even if it does under some circumstances, you got lucky.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the government is too greedy to step in to stop the trio from abusing Canadians with their unfair charges that are unheard of in the rest of the world. System Access Fee to Incoming SMS charges, they are all rip-offs and unfair, and an end-user (a poor Canadian) is nothing more than a victim of the greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a 47 minutes long argument with Rogers rep + a special services department Rep/incharge (whoever it was), using the same point 15 argument along with making my point clear to them that Incoming messages are not in my or anyone&#39;s control and it&#39;s a rip off</p>
<p>However, he outright refused it, I mean DENIED it that Point 15 in Terms of Service have even anything to do with this Incoming SMS charges. He said it&#39;s an open ended statement for multiple different services Rogers is offering and does not apply on SMS incoming charges, which is definite charge and WILL NOT change and apply on everybody. When I pushed the argument further, he started twisting things around and said my commitment with rogers is only until End of the month, he will take that charge off, but then from next month, I will have to choose between Pay the (unfair) charges or cancel the service (he was blunt). </p>
<p>Moreover, when I asked if he can give me anything in writing that whatever he said will apply on my account, he refused to give me anything in writing about the change and said Rogers don&#39;t do that, it can change the terms anytime it wants and the customer have to abide by it, and if they don&#39;t like it, they can cancel the service. (Whatever happened to retaining customers?)</p>
<p>So I wasted about 47 minutes of argument by shooting my blood pressure up and availing no success. </p>
<p>That Number 15. under Terms of Service does not work, and even if it does under some circumstances, you got lucky.</p>
<p>I think the government is too greedy to step in to stop the trio from abusing Canadians with their unfair charges that are unheard of in the rest of the world. System Access Fee to Incoming SMS charges, they are all rip-offs and unfair, and an end-user (a poor Canadian) is nothing more than a victim of the greed.</p>
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		<title>By: X1Zero</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-54740</link>
		<dc:creator>X1Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should said you will cancel and get sent to Retentions. Then make  &lt;br&gt;your claims again there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is retentions who will try to keep you as a customer. Most service  &lt;br&gt;level reps could not care less if people want to leave Rogers. They  &lt;br&gt;get their paycheck by answering calls for sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should said you will cancel and get sent to Retentions. Then make  <br />your claims again there.</p>
<p>It is retentions who will try to keep you as a customer. Most service  <br />level reps could not care less if people want to leave Rogers. They  <br />get their paycheck by answering calls for sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Victim</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-54739</link>
		<dc:creator>Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had a 47 minutes long argument with Rogers rep + a special services department Rep/incharge (whoever it was), using the same point 15 argument along with making my point clear to them that Incoming messages are not in my or anyone&#039;s control and it&#039;s a rip off&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, he outright refused it, I mean DENIED it that Point 15 in Terms of Service have even anything to do with this Incoming SMS charges. He said it&#039;s an open ended statement for multiple different services Rogers is offering and does not apply on SMS incoming charges, which is definite charge and WILL NOT change and apply on everybody. When I pushed the argument further, he started twisting things around and said my commitment with rogers is only until End of the month, he will take that charge off, but then from next month, I will have to choose between Pay the (unfair) charges or cancel the service (he was blunt). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moreover, when I asked if he can give me anything in writing that whatever he said will apply on my account, he refused to give me anything in writing about the change and said Rogers don&#039;t do that, it can change the terms anytime it wants and the customer have to abide by it, and if they don&#039;t like it, they can cancel the service. (Whatever happened to retaining customers?)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I wasted about 47 minutes of argument by shooting my blood pressure up and availing no success. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That Number 15. under Terms of Service does not work, and even if it does under some circumstances, you got lucky.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the government is too greedy to step in to stop the trio from abusing Canadians with their unfair charges that are unheard of in the rest of the world. System Access Fee to Incoming SMS charges, they are all rip-offs and unfair, and an end-user (a poor Canadian) is nothing more than a victim of the greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had a 47 minutes long argument with Rogers rep + a special services department Rep/incharge (whoever it was), using the same point 15 argument along with making my point clear to them that Incoming messages are not in my or anyone&#39;s control and it&#39;s a rip off</p>
<p>However, he outright refused it, I mean DENIED it that Point 15 in Terms of Service have even anything to do with this Incoming SMS charges. He said it&#39;s an open ended statement for multiple different services Rogers is offering and does not apply on SMS incoming charges, which is definite charge and WILL NOT change and apply on everybody. When I pushed the argument further, he started twisting things around and said my commitment with rogers is only until End of the month, he will take that charge off, but then from next month, I will have to choose between Pay the (unfair) charges or cancel the service (he was blunt). </p>
<p>Moreover, when I asked if he can give me anything in writing that whatever he said will apply on my account, he refused to give me anything in writing about the change and said Rogers don&#39;t do that, it can change the terms anytime it wants and the customer have to abide by it, and if they don&#39;t like it, they can cancel the service. (Whatever happened to retaining customers?)</p>
<p>So I wasted about 47 minutes of argument by shooting my blood pressure up and availing no success. </p>
<p>That Number 15. under Terms of Service does not work, and even if it does under some circumstances, you got lucky.</p>
<p>I think the government is too greedy to step in to stop the trio from abusing Canadians with their unfair charges that are unheard of in the rest of the world. System Access Fee to Incoming SMS charges, they are all rip-offs and unfair, and an end-user (a poor Canadian) is nothing more than a victim of the greed.</p>
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		<title>By: bob231321</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-54378</link>
		<dc:creator>bob231321</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, called today and explained to a CRM about the Condition 15. The lady said that you have 3 months after a change to dispute but then she didn&#039;t question me any further and after a few minutes hold she offered me a 500 text messages and unlimited incoming text messages plan for free for the rest of my contract which is around a year. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread!!!!! GOOD LUCK TO ANYONE ELSE PURSING ROBBERS ON THIS ISSUE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, called today and explained to a CRM about the Condition 15. The lady said that you have 3 months after a change to dispute but then she didn&#39;t question me any further and after a few minutes hold she offered me a 500 text messages and unlimited incoming text messages plan for free for the rest of my contract which is around a year. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread!!!!! GOOD LUCK TO ANYONE ELSE PURSING ROBBERS ON THIS ISSUE!</p>
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		<title>By: armyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-54303</link>
		<dc:creator>armyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did exactly what the article said and thought you guys would like to know my experience. First try, i got a stupid boy who couldn&#039;t do anything or understand what I was saying. The KEY is to get a hold of a Manager. They know the specifics of the Rogers Terms of Service and they have the power.  No Managers were in that day so he set up a Case for me.  Didn&#039;t contact me back till I had to 3 days after : (   but spoke to a Manager and she didn&#039;t even question me.  They really shouldn&#039;t give you any hassle because the Rogers Terms of Service 15. says it all. So they offered me Caller ID, VM + 2500 txt msgs  for FREEEEE! Now I have become a texter.  Good luck to you guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>I did exactly what the article said and thought you guys would like to know my experience. First try, i got a stupid boy who couldn&#39;t do anything or understand what I was saying. The KEY is to get a hold of a Manager. They know the specifics of the Rogers Terms of Service and they have the power.  No Managers were in that day so he set up a Case for me.  Didn&#39;t contact me back till I had to 3 days after : (   but spoke to a Manager and she didn&#39;t even question me.  They really shouldn&#39;t give you any hassle because the Rogers Terms of Service 15. says it all. So they offered me Caller ID, VM + 2500 txt msgs  for FREEEEE! Now I have become a texter.  Good luck to you guys.</p>
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		<title>By: X1Zero</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-52823</link>
		<dc:creator>X1Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s awesome news!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s awesome news!</p>
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		<title>By: DaSandman</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-52821</link>
		<dc:creator>DaSandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW first bill arrived since I called and complained.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like they added the $5 plan &quot;Messaging Bundle 250&quot; and gave me a permanent refund on it : &quot;Savings: Monthly Plan Credit 3 Yr&quot; :D&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Works for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW first bill arrived since I called and complained.</p>
<p>Looks like they added the $5 plan &#8220;Messaging Bundle 250&#8243; and gave me a permanent refund on it : &#8220;Savings: Monthly Plan Credit 3 Yr&#8221; <img src='http://cdn.iphoneincanada.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Works for me!</p>
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		<title>By: evan_phi</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/how-to-avoid-rogers-incoming-sms-charges/comment-page-2/#comment-51496</link>
		<dc:creator>evan_phi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still often have to make a stink to get anywhere with any of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still often have to make a stink to get anywhere with any of this.</p>
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