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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-43595</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Being an apple developper, we have the chance to run the iphone OS 3.0 and we also have to maintain our workflow applicaiton for both blackberry &amp; iphone. 

Even if apple has made significant progress with the OS 3.0, it is still no blackberry. Blackberry offers more options in terms of business application development as well as more comprehensive SDK. 

User wise, the iPhone on rogers&#039; network in Canada is virtually unusable. You get drop calls out of the yin yang, keeps switching between 3G &amp; Edge. We don&#039;t believe that this is only phone related issues but the radio on the Bold &amp; storm are definitely better.

Blackberry has made significant improvment to their web browser. Safari is the cream and untouchable at the moment but the blackberry browser is not as marginal as it use to be.

Both phone support push mail but the fact that you need to use MS-Exchange with the iphone to get the full benefit is beyond me. They don&#039;t event have push mail for OS X server! There are several options with the blackberry that make the push mail system better such has IMAP with a constant listener on the account. You don&#039;t need a BES server &amp; Exchange in order to get push mail on the berry.

The UI of the iphone is definitely more attractive. But the UI of the blackberry is 1000x more effective in day to day usage. Even if apple has mastered the touch screen, you still cannot acheive the speed of typing on the berry&#039;s keyboard. Now I have to agree that the storm SUCKS and the keyboard is virtually unusable. Most of our customer have returned their storm and switched back to the curve.

Both device are very capable units but Apple still has to give more options to the developers for other things than games and picture editing to make it a business phone!

I would recomend the iphone if:
- You&#039;re alone in your office and you don&#039;t care about other people&#039;s agenda, contacts
- You&#039;re ready to live with MobileMe and its limits (no group calendar, no support for vcs etc)
- If you can get an unlimited data plan (iphone sucks data like crazy, about 10 time more than the berry, we have the bills to prove it!)
- If you&#039;re willing to live with no internal modem or internet sharing (Still not working in OS 3.0)
- If you can wait up to 15 minutes to get your emails that are not in exchange or mobile me.
- NO NATIVE TASK SUPPORT!
- Roaming sucks since some provider disables the 3G on their network for foreign users. I had a nightmare  experience with my iphone in NYC right after the launch and we receive reports of being unable to access the data stream on ATT with rogers&#039; phones. Or might just be that ATT&#039;s network is too crowded ;)
- Super browser and interface
- Amazing gaming platform

Blackberry:
- If teamwork and business apps is your life
- If you can live with limited browser capability
- If you can live with a screen that is not as sharp as the iphone
- If you&#039;re a business user and looking for flexibility in terms of calendar, mail and tasks
- Don&#039;t think about gaming: Games are more like comodore64 than wii (read: marginal compared to the iphone)
- If you like the flexbility in terms of network (CDMA, GSM, 3G, HSPA etc...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Being an apple developper, we have the chance to run the iphone OS 3.0 and we also have to maintain our workflow applicaiton for both blackberry &amp; iphone. </p>
<p>Even if apple has made significant progress with the OS 3.0, it is still no blackberry. Blackberry offers more options in terms of business application development as well as more comprehensive SDK. </p>
<p>User wise, the iPhone on rogers&#8217; network in Canada is virtually unusable. You get drop calls out of the yin yang, keeps switching between 3G &amp; Edge. We don&#8217;t believe that this is only phone related issues but the radio on the Bold &amp; storm are definitely better.</p>
<p>Blackberry has made significant improvment to their web browser. Safari is the cream and untouchable at the moment but the blackberry browser is not as marginal as it use to be.</p>
<p>Both phone support push mail but the fact that you need to use MS-Exchange with the iphone to get the full benefit is beyond me. They don&#8217;t event have push mail for OS X server! There are several options with the blackberry that make the push mail system better such has IMAP with a constant listener on the account. You don&#8217;t need a BES server &amp; Exchange in order to get push mail on the berry.</p>
<p>The UI of the iphone is definitely more attractive. But the UI of the blackberry is 1000x more effective in day to day usage. Even if apple has mastered the touch screen, you still cannot acheive the speed of typing on the berry&#8217;s keyboard. Now I have to agree that the storm SUCKS and the keyboard is virtually unusable. Most of our customer have returned their storm and switched back to the curve.</p>
<p>Both device are very capable units but Apple still has to give more options to the developers for other things than games and picture editing to make it a business phone!</p>
<p>I would recomend the iphone if:<br />
- You&#8217;re alone in your office and you don&#8217;t care about other people&#8217;s agenda, contacts<br />
- You&#8217;re ready to live with MobileMe and its limits (no group calendar, no support for vcs etc)<br />
- If you can get an unlimited data plan (iphone sucks data like crazy, about 10 time more than the berry, we have the bills to prove it!)<br />
- If you&#8217;re willing to live with no internal modem or internet sharing (Still not working in OS 3.0)<br />
- If you can wait up to 15 minutes to get your emails that are not in exchange or mobile me.<br />
- NO NATIVE TASK SUPPORT!<br />
- Roaming sucks since some provider disables the 3G on their network for foreign users. I had a nightmare  experience with my iphone in NYC right after the launch and we receive reports of being unable to access the data stream on ATT with rogers&#8217; phones. Or might just be that ATT&#8217;s network is too crowded <img src='http://cdn.iphoneincanada.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- Super browser and interface<br />
- Amazing gaming platform</p>
<p>Blackberry:<br />
- If teamwork and business apps is your life<br />
- If you can live with limited browser capability<br />
- If you can live with a screen that is not as sharp as the iphone<br />
- If you&#8217;re a business user and looking for flexibility in terms of calendar, mail and tasks<br />
- Don&#8217;t think about gaming: Games are more like comodore64 than wii (read: marginal compared to the iphone)<br />
- If you like the flexbility in terms of network (CDMA, GSM, 3G, HSPA etc&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-143626</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Being an apple developper, we have the chance to run the iphone OS 3.0 and we also have to maintain our workflow applicaiton for both blackberry &amp; iphone. 

Even if apple has made significant progress with the OS 3.0, it is still no blackberry. Blackberry offers more options in terms of business application development as well as more comprehensive SDK. 

User wise, the iPhone on rogers&#039; network in Canada is virtually unusable. You get drop calls out of the yin yang, keeps switching between 3G &amp; Edge. We don&#039;t believe that this is only phone related issues but the radio on the Bold &amp; storm are definitely better.

Blackberry has made significant improvment to their web browser. Safari is the cream and untouchable at the moment but the blackberry browser is not as marginal as it use to be.

Both phone support push mail but the fact that you need to use MS-Exchange with the iphone to get the full benefit is beyond me. They don&#039;t event have push mail for OS X server! There are several options with the blackberry that make the push mail system better such has IMAP with a constant listener on the account. You don&#039;t need a BES server &amp; Exchange in order to get push mail on the berry.

The UI of the iphone is definitely more attractive. But the UI of the blackberry is 1000x more effective in day to day usage. Even if apple has mastered the touch screen, you still cannot acheive the speed of typing on the berry&#039;s keyboard. Now I have to agree that the storm SUCKS and the keyboard is virtually unusable. Most of our customer have returned their storm and switched back to the curve.

Both device are very capable units but Apple still has to give more options to the developers for other things than games and picture editing to make it a business phone!

I would recomend the iphone if:
- You&#039;re alone in your office and you don&#039;t care about other people&#039;s agenda, contacts
- You&#039;re ready to live with MobileMe and its limits (no group calendar, no support for vcs etc)
- If you can get an unlimited data plan (iphone sucks data like crazy, about 10 time more than the berry, we have the bills to prove it!)
- If you&#039;re willing to live with no internal modem or internet sharing (Still not working in OS 3.0)
- If you can wait up to 15 minutes to get your emails that are not in exchange or mobile me.
- NO NATIVE TASK SUPPORT!
- Roaming sucks since some provider disables the 3G on their network for foreign users. I had a nightmare  experience with my iphone in NYC right after the launch and we receive reports of being unable to access the data stream on ATT with rogers&#039; phones. Or might just be that ATT&#039;s network is too crowded ;)
- Super browser and interface
- Amazing gaming platform

Blackberry:
- If teamwork and business apps is your life
- If you can live with limited browser capability
- If you can live with a screen that is not as sharp as the iphone
- If you&#039;re a business user and looking for flexibility in terms of calendar, mail and tasks
- Don&#039;t think about gaming: Games are more like comodore64 than wii (read: marginal compared to the iphone)
- If you like the flexbility in terms of network (CDMA, GSM, 3G, HSPA etc...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Being an apple developper, we have the chance to run the iphone OS 3.0 and we also have to maintain our workflow applicaiton for both blackberry &amp; iphone. </p>
<p>Even if apple has made significant progress with the OS 3.0, it is still no blackberry. Blackberry offers more options in terms of business application development as well as more comprehensive SDK. </p>
<p>User wise, the iPhone on rogers&#8217; network in Canada is virtually unusable. You get drop calls out of the yin yang, keeps switching between 3G &amp; Edge. We don&#8217;t believe that this is only phone related issues but the radio on the Bold &amp; storm are definitely better.</p>
<p>Blackberry has made significant improvment to their web browser. Safari is the cream and untouchable at the moment but the blackberry browser is not as marginal as it use to be.</p>
<p>Both phone support push mail but the fact that you need to use MS-Exchange with the iphone to get the full benefit is beyond me. They don&#8217;t event have push mail for OS X server! There are several options with the blackberry that make the push mail system better such has IMAP with a constant listener on the account. You don&#8217;t need a BES server &amp; Exchange in order to get push mail on the berry.</p>
<p>The UI of the iphone is definitely more attractive. But the UI of the blackberry is 1000x more effective in day to day usage. Even if apple has mastered the touch screen, you still cannot acheive the speed of typing on the berry&#8217;s keyboard. Now I have to agree that the storm SUCKS and the keyboard is virtually unusable. Most of our customer have returned their storm and switched back to the curve.</p>
<p>Both device are very capable units but Apple still has to give more options to the developers for other things than games and picture editing to make it a business phone!</p>
<p>I would recomend the iphone if:<br />
- You&#8217;re alone in your office and you don&#8217;t care about other people&#8217;s agenda, contacts<br />
- You&#8217;re ready to live with MobileMe and its limits (no group calendar, no support for vcs etc)<br />
- If you can get an unlimited data plan (iphone sucks data like crazy, about 10 time more than the berry, we have the bills to prove it!)<br />
- If you&#8217;re willing to live with no internal modem or internet sharing (Still not working in OS 3.0)<br />
- If you can wait up to 15 minutes to get your emails that are not in exchange or mobile me.<br />
- NO NATIVE TASK SUPPORT!<br />
- Roaming sucks since some provider disables the 3G on their network for foreign users. I had a nightmare  experience with my iphone in NYC right after the launch and we receive reports of being unable to access the data stream on ATT with rogers&#8217; phones. Or might just be that ATT&#8217;s network is too crowded <img src='http://cdn.iphoneincanada.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- Super browser and interface<br />
- Amazing gaming platform</p>
<p>Blackberry:<br />
- If teamwork and business apps is your life<br />
- If you can live with limited browser capability<br />
- If you can live with a screen that is not as sharp as the iphone<br />
- If you&#8217;re a business user and looking for flexibility in terms of calendar, mail and tasks<br />
- Don&#8217;t think about gaming: Games are more like comodore64 than wii (read: marginal compared to the iphone)<br />
- If you like the flexbility in terms of network (CDMA, GSM, 3G, HSPA etc&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-30248</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you happen to know if 3.0 will support &quot;cut and paste&quot; and encryption? Also, I&#039;m collecting comments in the ff iPhone room on iphone vs bb (have added this blog article to the room): http://friendfeed.com/e/ec78b468-2404-4637-83ee-6a2d19592bfb/Is-will-the-iPhone-become-as-popular-as-the/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you happen to know if 3.0 will support &#8220;cut and paste&#8221; and encryption? Also, I&#8217;m collecting comments in the ff iPhone room on iphone vs bb (have added this blog article to the room): <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/ec78b468-2404-4637-83ee-6a2d19592bfb/Is-will-the-iPhone-become-as-popular-as-the/" rel="nofollow">http://friendfeed.com/e/ec78b468-2404-4637-83ee-6a2d19592bfb/Is-will-the-iPhone-become-as-popular-as-the/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Herbert</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-143625</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you happen to know if 3.0 will support &quot;cut and paste&quot; and encryption? Also, I&#039;m collecting comments in the ff iPhone room on iphone vs bb (have added this blog article to the room): http://friendfeed.com/e/ec78b468-2404-4637-83ee-6a2d19592bfb/Is-will-the-iPhone-become-as-popular-as-the/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you happen to know if 3.0 will support &#8220;cut and paste&#8221; and encryption? Also, I&#8217;m collecting comments in the ff iPhone room on iphone vs bb (have added this blog article to the room): <a href="http://friendfeed.com/e/ec78b468-2404-4637-83ee-6a2d19592bfb/Is-will-the-iPhone-become-as-popular-as-the/" rel="nofollow">http://friendfeed.com/e/ec78b468-2404-4637-83ee-6a2d19592bfb/Is-will-the-iPhone-become-as-popular-as-the/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-11498</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Palringo, you have to create an account with them, but otherwise it works pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Palringo, you have to create an account with them, but otherwise it works pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-143624</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Palringo, you have to create an account with them, but otherwise it works pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Palringo, you have to create an account with them, but otherwise it works pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: JP!</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-11489</link>
		<dc:creator>JP!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still strugling between the two. I would just love the Iphone to have windows live messenger, and I know it won&#039;t happen other than on wifi (apolloim). :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still strugling between the two. I would just love the Iphone to have windows live messenger, and I know it won&#8217;t happen other than on wifi (apolloim). :/</p>
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		<title>By: JP!</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-143623</link>
		<dc:creator>JP!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still strugling between the two. I would just love the Iphone to have windows live messenger, and I know it won&#039;t happen other than on wifi (apolloim). :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still strugling between the two. I would just love the Iphone to have windows live messenger, and I know it won&#8217;t happen other than on wifi (apolloim). :/</p>
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		<title>By: Manduh</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-11412</link>
		<dc:creator>Manduh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry meant @ Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry meant @ Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Manduh</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-news/rogers-iphone-3g-vs-blackberry-bold-who-will-win/comment-page-2/#comment-11411</link>
		<dc:creator>Manduh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ TOM  just forward your hotmail to one of your (pushed) accounts then you can get it pushed to you! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TOM  just forward your hotmail to one of your (pushed) accounts then you can get it pushed to you! <img src='http://cdn.iphoneincanada.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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