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	<title>Comments on: Rogers iPhone 3G Sales Flow: SIM Swaps Require Unbricking</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-140266</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird... I have activated a phone and changed sim cards without having to re-unbrick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird&#8230; I have activated a phone and changed sim cards without having to re-unbrick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-8120</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird... I have activated a phone and changed sim cards without having to re-unbrick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird&#8230; I have activated a phone and changed sim cards without having to re-unbrick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-7477</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just left a Telephone booth in toronto with a 16gb white iphone... took forever as I was first in line at 8am and just got it &#039;&#039;activated about 30 minutes ago&#039;&#039;... THey couldn&#039;t unbrick it at the store no idea why and told me to go home plug it into itunes and it should work... i plugged it in and no luck... anyone know how to do the home unbricking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just left a Telephone booth in toronto with a 16gb white iphone&#8230; took forever as I was first in line at 8am and just got it &#8221;activated about 30 minutes ago&#8221;&#8230; THey couldn&#8217;t unbrick it at the store no idea why and told me to go home plug it into itunes and it should work&#8230; i plugged it in and no luck&#8230; anyone know how to do the home unbricking?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-140265</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just left a Telephone booth in toronto with a 16gb white iphone... took forever as I was first in line at 8am and just got it &#039;&#039;activated about 30 minutes ago&#039;&#039;... THey couldn&#039;t unbrick it at the store no idea why and told me to go home plug it into itunes and it should work... i plugged it in and no luck... anyone know how to do the home unbricking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just left a Telephone booth in toronto with a 16gb white iphone&#8230; took forever as I was first in line at 8am and just got it &#8221;activated about 30 minutes ago&#8221;&#8230; THey couldn&#8217;t unbrick it at the store no idea why and told me to go home plug it into itunes and it should work&#8230; i plugged it in and no luck&#8230; anyone know how to do the home unbricking?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse David Hollington</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-6731</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse David Hollington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and if you wanted to go to Europe and put in a different SIM card, you&#039;d be out of luck.  The iPhone will be locked at the hardware level, in the same way as any other GSM phone.

This part is really nothing Apple-specific either...   The &quot;activation&quot; stuff adds a second level, but the SIM lock works the same as it does for any other phone Rogers sells.  NONE of them can be used with non-Rogers SIM cards without getting them unlocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if you wanted to go to Europe and put in a different SIM card, you&#8217;d be out of luck.  The iPhone will be locked at the hardware level, in the same way as any other GSM phone.</p>
<p>This part is really nothing Apple-specific either&#8230;   The &#8220;activation&#8221; stuff adds a second level, but the SIM lock works the same as it does for any other phone Rogers sells.  NONE of them can be used with non-Rogers SIM cards without getting them unlocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse David Hollington</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-140264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse David Hollington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and if you wanted to go to Europe and put in a different SIM card, you&#039;d be out of luck.  The iPhone will be locked at the hardware level, in the same way as any other GSM phone.

This part is really nothing Apple-specific either...   The &quot;activation&quot; stuff adds a second level, but the SIM lock works the same as it does for any other phone Rogers sells.  NONE of them can be used with non-Rogers SIM cards without getting them unlocked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if you wanted to go to Europe and put in a different SIM card, you&#8217;d be out of luck.  The iPhone will be locked at the hardware level, in the same way as any other GSM phone.</p>
<p>This part is really nothing Apple-specific either&#8230;   The &#8220;activation&#8221; stuff adds a second level, but the SIM lock works the same as it does for any other phone Rogers sells.  NONE of them can be used with non-Rogers SIM cards without getting them unlocked.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse David Hollington</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-6730</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse David Hollington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it&#039;s normal state also requires &quot;re-activation&quot; each time you change SIM cards -- unless you&#039;ve unlocked it of course.

With AT&amp;T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&amp;T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself -- no visit to an AT&amp;T or Apple Store was required.

If you inserted a non-AT&amp;T SIM card (or a non-AT&amp;T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple&#039;s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&amp;T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.  

Presumably, since Rogers is using an &quot;Activation-only&quot; version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations -- hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.

Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear.  Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it&#8217;s normal state also requires &#8220;re-activation&#8221; each time you change SIM cards &#8212; unless you&#8217;ve unlocked it of course.</p>
<p>With AT&amp;T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&amp;T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself &#8212; no visit to an AT&amp;T or Apple Store was required.</p>
<p>If you inserted a non-AT&amp;T SIM card (or a non-AT&amp;T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple&#8217;s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&amp;T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.  </p>
<p>Presumably, since Rogers is using an &#8220;Activation-only&#8221; version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations &#8212; hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.</p>
<p>Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear.  Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse David Hollington</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-140262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse David Hollington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it&#039;s normal state also requires &quot;re-activation&quot; each time you change SIM cards -- unless you&#039;ve unlocked it of course.

With AT&amp;T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&amp;T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself -- no visit to an AT&amp;T or Apple Store was required.

If you inserted a non-AT&amp;T SIM card (or a non-AT&amp;T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple&#039;s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&amp;T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.  

Presumably, since Rogers is using an &quot;Activation-only&quot; version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations -- hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.

Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear.  Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it&#8217;s normal state also requires &#8220;re-activation&#8221; each time you change SIM cards &#8212; unless you&#8217;ve unlocked it of course.</p>
<p>With AT&amp;T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&amp;T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself &#8212; no visit to an AT&amp;T or Apple Store was required.</p>
<p>If you inserted a non-AT&amp;T SIM card (or a non-AT&amp;T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple&#8217;s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&amp;T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.  </p>
<p>Presumably, since Rogers is using an &#8220;Activation-only&#8221; version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations &#8212; hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.</p>
<p>Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear.  Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse David Hollington</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-140263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse David Hollington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it&#039;s normal state also requires &quot;re-activation&quot; each time you change SIM cards -- unless you&#039;ve unlocked it of course.

With AT&amp;T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&amp;T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself -- no visit to an AT&amp;T or Apple Store was required.

If you inserted a non-AT&amp;T SIM card (or a non-AT&amp;T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple&#039;s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&amp;T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.  

Presumably, since Rogers is using an &quot;Activation-only&quot; version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations -- hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.

Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear.  Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it&#8217;s normal state also requires &#8220;re-activation&#8221; each time you change SIM cards &#8212; unless you&#8217;ve unlocked it of course.</p>
<p>With AT&amp;T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&amp;T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself &#8212; no visit to an AT&amp;T or Apple Store was required.</p>
<p>If you inserted a non-AT&amp;T SIM card (or a non-AT&amp;T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple&#8217;s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&amp;T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.  </p>
<p>Presumably, since Rogers is using an &#8220;Activation-only&#8221; version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations &#8212; hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.</p>
<p>Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear.  Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Alain Vezina</title>
		<link>http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers-carriers/rogers-iphone-3g-sales-flow-sim-swaps-require-unbricking/comment-page-1/#comment-6728</link>
		<dc:creator>Alain Vezina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this legal? I mean after we bought the Iphone, I should be the owner of the phone??!! Why should I have to unbriked it again? In case of a new GSM provider in Canada, how does it gonna works? What if i go in europe for the summer and i want to put a new Sim card... how doest it work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this legal? I mean after we bought the Iphone, I should be the owner of the phone??!! Why should I have to unbriked it again? In case of a new GSM provider in Canada, how does it gonna works? What if i go in europe for the summer and i want to put a new Sim card&#8230; how doest it work?</p>
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