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Android Makers Start Developing 3D-Sensing Technologies Like Face ID

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Following Apple’s introduction of Face ID technology in the iPhone X, Android smartphone manufacturers have turned away from under-display fingerprint recognition, and have now started developing camera-based 3D sensing technologies, according to KGI securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has previously said it would take Android competitors up to two and a half years to replicate the Face ID feature (via MacRumors).

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The analyst writes in his latest research note that “inquiries by Android smartphone vendors into 3D-sensing technologies have at least tripled”, ever since Apple unveiled its TrueDepth camera and Face ID technology in the upcoming anniversary edition iPhone X. He also notes that right now, the solutions available to Android makers are from Qualcomm and Himax, Orbbec, and Mantis Vision, with Qualcomm-Himax solutions being at the top of the list.

Here’s what Kuo says:

“While under-display optical fingerprint recognition is only a spec upgrade from capacitive solutions, 3D sensing embodies a revolutionary user experience and warrants a premium on gross margin. 3D sensing not only enables facial recognition in security applications and allows users to create fun expressions like Apple’s Animoji, on a more important level, it is a key factor in the development of AR. We therefore believe brand vendors are willing to spend more for related components.”

The analyst believes shipments of 3D sensor-equipped Android devices will exceed those with under-display fingerprint recognition by a factor of two or three or more, in the next 2-3 years.

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  • FragilityG4

    So they were trying to develop an under the display fingerprint sensor system which is based off an Apple rumour and now instead they are trying to develop a True Depth System based off an Apple unveiling… But Apple is still behind everyone else right?

  • Si2k78

    Yeah, that sounds about right, in Android world.

  • DGB23

    Face unlock and Retina Unlock have been around for awhile now. Face-ID is a gimmick that is pretty trash compared to retina scanning and fingerprints. Some Device manufacturers will include facial recognition just to have the feature but in reality most Android users wont use it and it will get removed.

  • FragilityG4

    You’ve used FaceID?

  • DGB23

    Not Apples Face-ID, no. It barley worked at the press event and has already been tricked by twins. People will quickly realize that they dont want to hold the phone up to their face every time they want to unlock it.

  • FragilityG4

    Research and try first. It doesn’t have to be held up to your face. It works on an angle so you can open it while it sits on a table but let’s be serious here, most of the time when you go to open your phone you look right at as you hold up towards your face. Apple did admit that a twin would have a good chance of tricking it. The press event it worked perfectly. The reason why it failed for Craig was because others had handled the phone before it unsuccessfully opening it thus it then required a passcode for security.

  • meh…

    With no alternate unlock mechanism, Face-ID is a failure. The same would hold true for the Samsung Galaxy S8, S8 Plus, or Note8, if they only had a retina scanner, and no fingerprint scanner. Apple should have just continued to shamelessly copy Samsung, LG, HTC, and other Android vendors and give us a fingerprint scanner as a back-up, as well as those who don’t want to compromise their security using laughable facial recognition.

  • FragilityG4

    A lot of presumptions there for someone who hasn’t used it. Since no financial institution has announced pulling Apple Pay as an option due to concerns over security, my presumption is it’s unlike anything else out there. That’s probably why the most recent Android report states that many android makers are abandoning fingerprint scanners under the display in favour of creating their own— wait a minute… that’s the article! Give it a read and you’ll see yourself that everyone seems pretty convinced this facial recognition system is not only super secure but in fact the future.

  • meh…

    I’m not convinced facial recognition of ANY kind can be secure, and no matter who makes it, I’ll never use it. If Samsung decides to, I’ll make the easy decision to go back to a BlackBerry. That KEYone looks pretty good. I may not know the security mechanisms on Face-ID but I’m not mentally challenged enough to actually agree with Apple that it’s secure enough.

  • FragilityG4

    Fair enough, you’re entitled to your own opinion. I on the other hand will wait and see.

  • meh…

    Sure, go ahead. I’d take a BlackBerry over facial recognition of ANY kind.

  • JayDub

    This is untrue. Face ID hasn’t existed. 2D Facial recognition has. And it hasn’t performed as expected. Retina scans also have been easily spoofed. Fingerprint has been easily spoofed. 3D face authentication is here and will be in many banking apps soon.

  • JayDub

    This is correct. Keep in mind, however, Face ID at the moment will be focused on opening the phone, and maybe doing small transactions. It is missing “liveness” verification, although it sees depth (3D).

  • JayDub

    Not true. The X doesn’t have to use Face ID.

  • JayDub

    This is an incorrect assumption. Some financial institutions will use Touch ID for many years, but many don’t use it now. Face ID essentially takes the place of Touch ID in the handset and will work in the same circumstances as Touch.

  • meh…

    You default back to a pin without fail-id.

  • FragilityG4

    Hope they have some killer built in apps ????

  • FragilityG4

    My point is that no financial institution has dropped support for Apple Pay based on concerns over the security of FaceID.

  • FragilityG4

    What is liveness verification?

  • meh…

    BlackBerry leaves Android fairly Spartan, which is a good thing, but they roll in a handful of apps that make Android better. They include Hub, DTEK, Password Keeper, Tasks, Notes, Contacts, and their Calender. Their bootloader, and kernel are more secure, with integrity checking and hardware root of trust.

  • FragilityG4

    If it’s all that good why are they an insignificant manufacturer? They have a 0.01% market hold… that number might be generous.

  • meh…

    That’s for their dead operating system BlackBerry 10.

  • FragilityG4

    Nope that’s for their handset… all one of them????

  • meh…

    No, it’s for the BBOS devices…. all one of them ????, and no one asked you.

  • FragilityG4

    You made a statement and I rebutted it. If you want to believe Blackberry in some way is still relevant than great for you! Take it to the Crackberry forums… they may still be active……….

  • meh…

    Active is an understatement, something you don’t seem to believe.

  • FragilityG4

    Active and relevant are two different things.

  • meh…

    Like your comments. You’re very active, but very irrelevant.

  • FragilityG4

    Clever, but inaccurate.

  • meh…

    Good job describing your entire existence.

  • FragilityG4

    No need for personal attacks.

  • meh…

    Take your own advice

  • FragilityG4

    I don’t believe I have attacked you personally, however if I have or the perception is that I have, I apologize.

  • meh…

    You needlessly attacked a platform of which you know little or nothing about, as well as the vibrant community that swears by said platform and devices.

  • FragilityG4

    That hardly constitutes a personal attack. I never attacked Blackberry I simply stated facts. They are not a relevant company when it comes to both hardware and software. Like I said before you’re entitled to your own opinion and so am I. It appears you are trolling for an argument since you appear to not be a fan of Apple and I have tried, politely, several times to end this conversation. There’s no need for anger and personal attacks. This world has too many problems for us to waste fighting back and forth on social media. Having said that, I will officially end this conversation as I have already spent entirely too much time on this. Sorry I must be getting older but this isn’t worth it. One day you’ll understand.

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