Would You Switch from an iPhone to the Palm Pre?

When Palm announced at CES and demonstrated their upcoming smartphone, the Pre, many people were excited to see some “real” competition come our way. By now, we all know that despite many attempts from manufacturers such as RIM and HTC, the iPhone is still the phone to beat.

Palm Is Ready to Take the Cake from Apple

What peaked my interest though and compelled me to bring up this question was when I read this bold and confident statement by Palm’s CEO, Roger McNamee, in his interview with Bloomberg from last week:

“You know the beautiful thing: June 29, 2009, is the two- year anniversary of the first shipment of the iPhone,” McNamee said today in an interview in San Francisco. “Not one of those people will still be using an iPhone a month later.”

All I have to say to Mr. McNamee is don’t count your chicks before the eggs hatch! Palm has not sold one Pre yet, and to have the confidence to announce that the whole lot of iPhone users will switch over to the Pre is a bit cocky and “pre”-mature at this point in time. 😉

Let’s get one thing very clear: the Pre will definitely sell a lot of phones. As for switching over every single iPhone user, that is highly unlikely. First of all, we do not know if the phone will be available outside the USA at this in time. Will the Palm Pre be available in Canada? We don’t know.

Also, most users that do have iPhones in the USA and Canada are tied down to contracts with their local carriers (yours truly included). Here’s some more Palm speak from McNamee:

“Think about it — If you bought the first iPhone, you bought it because you wanted the coolest product on the market,” said McNamee, 52. “Your two-year contract has just expired. Look around. Tell me what they’re going to buy.”

What is this guy thinking when he says this stuff? It’s like he’s setting the company up for disaster if the Pre fails and Palm ends up going bankrupt. Let’s remember that Palm’s cash reserves are a couple hundred million, while Apple has about 28 billion. Palm can try to borrow to keep pushing the Pre, but when you’re up against a giant like Apple, it’s going to be an uphill battle.

Are Americans Ready to Spend More than the Cost of an iPhone 3G for a Pre?

Don’t forget the United States (and the world) is going through some tough economic times and people aren’t spending like they used to. Sure, the Pre is going to be a mighty smartphone, but at the end of the day if you’re jobless, what’s more important–a new phone or putting dinner on the table? Don’t forget that 651,000 jobs were slashed in February in the USA!

Apple tends to surprise us with updates and new products when we least expect them. Yes, the Pre will get the hype and attention it deserves, but I can only imagine the return of Jobs to announce “one more thing” during the next Apple event and blow us all away with the next generation iPhone. It’s completely possible and we’ve seen it before. I think he has already started cleaning his New Balance runners and pressing his black turtleneck and jeans.

I’m all for healthy competition as it only benefits the consumer. If it wasn’t for the iPhone we wouldn’t even have upcoming devices like the Pre. RIM has failed to dent overall iPhone sales with the Bold and the Storm (I played with a Storm recently and it was extremely PAINFUL to use). We all know deep down inside that all Blackberry users really crave an iPhone anyways, right? 😉

So to get back to my original question: Would you switch to the Palm Pre? Yes/No? Why/Why not?

My answer to the above would be NO. Why? Well, I think the Pre has yet to prove anything, aside from create some pretty positive hype. Until I actually test one in my hands and it wins me over (this is how the first gen iPhone won me over when I got hands on with one inside the Alderwood Apple Store), I will continue to use my iPhone 3G. Also, I am not a fan of physical QWERTY keyboards. They are slow and hard to use if you have fat fingers! Touchscreens are the way of the future folks! 😉

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  • Robert Raymond

    I think at this point i’m a little too invested in my iPhone with all my purchased apps. I have to admit though that the Pre is a nice little device.

  • Robert Raymond

    I think at this point i’m a little too invested in my iPhone with all my purchased apps. I have to admit though that the Pre is a nice little device.

  • Robert Raymond

    I think at this point i’m a little too invested in my iPhone with all my purchased apps. I have to admit though that the Pre is a nice little device.

  • Monty

    Absolutely not! The physical qwerty keyboard is what kept me away from Blackberry and all the others, my primary reason for moving to the iPhone was the touch-screen keyboard. My last phone before that was a Motorola Razr and it was probably the last cell phone that I could type text on, all keypads getting smaller and smaller were pushing me out of the market. The iPhone was a godsend!

    All of the apps and functionality that came with it were just bonus after I found how well I could type on their keyboard!

  • Monty

    Absolutely not! The physical qwerty keyboard is what kept me away from Blackberry and all the others, my primary reason for moving to the iPhone was the touch-screen keyboard. My last phone before that was a Motorola Razr and it was probably the last cell phone that I could type text on, all keypads getting smaller and smaller were pushing me out of the market. The iPhone was a godsend!

    All of the apps and functionality that came with it were just bonus after I found how well I could type on their keyboard!

  • Monty

    Absolutely not! The physical qwerty keyboard is what kept me away from Blackberry and all the others, my primary reason for moving to the iPhone was the touch-screen keyboard. My last phone before that was a Motorola Razr and it was probably the last cell phone that I could type text on, all keypads getting smaller and smaller were pushing me out of the market. The iPhone was a godsend!

    All of the apps and functionality that came with it were just bonus after I found how well I could type on their keyboard!

  • Monty

    Absolutely not! The physical qwerty keyboard is what kept me away from Blackberry and all the others, my primary reason for moving to the iPhone was the touch-screen keyboard. My last phone before that was a Motorola Razr and it was probably the last cell phone that I could type text on, all keypads getting smaller and smaller were pushing me out of the market. The iPhone was a godsend!

    All of the apps and functionality that came with it were just bonus after I found how well I could type on their keyboard!

  • I’m never getting a non-iPhone phone again. Blackberry’s and Macs don’t mix (although I finally have it syncing properly now, six months after purchase…woohoo 2 more years to go!).

    So no, I won’t be switching to the Pre. It may be a good phone, but will it play DRM’d iTunes content and integrate with the Mac? Nope. Back to the workshop, Mr. McNamee. Also, his pompous attitude assures that I will never buy a product from this man…same problem Steve Ballmer has, foot-in-mouth-disease. If you want to sell me something, don’t be a complete dick. I suspect this is the end of Palm, again.

  • I’m never getting a non-iPhone phone again. Blackberry’s and Macs don’t mix (although I finally have it syncing properly now, six months after purchase…woohoo 2 more years to go!).

    So no, I won’t be switching to the Pre. It may be a good phone, but will it play DRM’d iTunes content and integrate with the Mac? Nope. Back to the workshop, Mr. McNamee. Also, his pompous attitude assures that I will never buy a product from this man…same problem Steve Ballmer has, foot-in-mouth-disease. If you want to sell me something, don’t be a complete dick. I suspect this is the end of Palm, again.

  • I’m never getting a non-iPhone phone again. Blackberry’s and Macs don’t mix (although I finally have it syncing properly now, six months after purchase…woohoo 2 more years to go!).

    So no, I won’t be switching to the Pre. It may be a good phone, but will it play DRM’d iTunes content and integrate with the Mac? Nope. Back to the workshop, Mr. McNamee. Also, his pompous attitude assures that I will never buy a product from this man…same problem Steve Ballmer has, foot-in-mouth-disease. If you want to sell me something, don’t be a complete dick. I suspect this is the end of Palm, again.

  • Kai

    Typing from his iPhone Kai says:

    Are you kidding me?! The iphone’s keyboard is good? You’ve obviously not tried a blackberry. don’t get me wrong, the iphone has a lot of good features which is why I own one but the keyboard is not one of them.

    What I’m interested to know is *how much* better the iphone is doing in terms of sales. I get very different results checking different blogs. What I would like to see is some actual numbers with credible sources. And cite reliable indicators such as % marketshare and how the market is defined as opposed to # of sales as that can be misleading including/excluding corporate sales etc…

    As for the pre, like you say, it’s too early to tell. No offense but I don’t think it means much to say now which phone you would have… I think that even if the pre doesn’t convert every iphone user, it will still be successful if it takes palm’s virtually 0% market share to somewhere around 15% in the face of all those giant competitors like nokia and apple. That way they start a user-base that are addicted to pre-only features, much like iphone users enjoy iphone only features such as low-maintenance, high performance/stability.

  • Kai

    Typing from his iPhone Kai says:

    Are you kidding me?! The iphone’s keyboard is good? You’ve obviously not tried a blackberry. don’t get me wrong, the iphone has a lot of good features which is why I own one but the keyboard is not one of them.

    What I’m interested to know is *how much* better the iphone is doing in terms of sales. I get very different results checking different blogs. What I would like to see is some actual numbers with credible sources. And cite reliable indicators such as % marketshare and how the market is defined as opposed to # of sales as that can be misleading including/excluding corporate sales etc…

    As for the pre, like you say, it’s too early to tell. No offense but I don’t think it means much to say now which phone you would have… I think that even if the pre doesn’t convert every iphone user, it will still be successful if it takes palm’s virtually 0% market share to somewhere around 15% in the face of all those giant competitors like nokia and apple. That way they start a user-base that are addicted to pre-only features, much like iphone users enjoy iphone only features such as low-maintenance, high performance/stability.

  • I’m never getting a non-iPhone phone again. Blackberry’s and Macs don’t mix (although I finally have it syncing properly now, six months after purchase…woohoo 2 more years to go!).

    So no, I won’t be switching to the Pre. It may be a good phone, but will it play DRM’d iTunes content and integrate with the Mac? Nope. Back to the workshop, Mr. McNamee. Also, his pompous attitude assures that I will never buy a product from this man…same problem Steve Ballmer has, foot-in-mouth-disease. If you want to sell me something, don’t be a complete dick. I suspect this is the end of Palm, again.

  • Kai

    Typing from his iPhone Kai says:

    Are you kidding me?! The iphone’s keyboard is good? You’ve obviously not tried a blackberry. don’t get me wrong, the iphone has a lot of good features which is why I own one but the keyboard is not one of them.

    What I’m interested to know is *how much* better the iphone is doing in terms of sales. I get very different results checking different blogs. What I would like to see is some actual numbers with credible sources. And cite reliable indicators such as % marketshare and how the market is defined as opposed to # of sales as that can be misleading including/excluding corporate sales etc…

    As for the pre, like you say, it’s too early to tell. No offense but I don’t think it means much to say now which phone you would have… I think that even if the pre doesn’t convert every iphone user, it will still be successful if it takes palm’s virtually 0% market share to somewhere around 15% in the face of all those giant competitors like nokia and apple. That way they start a user-base that are addicted to pre-only features, much like iphone users enjoy iphone only features such as low-maintenance, high performance/stability.

  • Thomas

    Yes, I would do just that. Although I like my iPhone I am looking to get rid of it in favor of a device with a physical keyboard. I can type much faster on those. Also, I am not happy with some features that the iPhone does not have. I need cut/copy and paste. The fact that the iPhone does not have it is crazy. I also want background processes, and what about push notification that was promised before I bought the phone, almost a year ago.
    The reason I started thinking about switching phones is because I had to set up several BBs here at work, and remembered how they work, and how much easier it is to type on them.
    The iPhone is cool, and the 3rd party apps and games are cool, but it seems iPhone base apps are the weak point here. I’ll get a Pre or a BB next.

  • Thomas

    Yes, I would do just that. Although I like my iPhone I am looking to get rid of it in favor of a device with a physical keyboard. I can type much faster on those. Also, I am not happy with some features that the iPhone does not have. I need cut/copy and paste. The fact that the iPhone does not have it is crazy. I also want background processes, and what about push notification that was promised before I bought the phone, almost a year ago.
    The reason I started thinking about switching phones is because I had to set up several BBs here at work, and remembered how they work, and how much easier it is to type on them.
    The iPhone is cool, and the 3rd party apps and games are cool, but it seems iPhone base apps are the weak point here. I’ll get a Pre or a BB next.

  • Thomas

    Yes, I would do just that. Although I like my iPhone I am looking to get rid of it in favor of a device with a physical keyboard. I can type much faster on those. Also, I am not happy with some features that the iPhone does not have. I need cut/copy and paste. The fact that the iPhone does not have it is crazy. I also want background processes, and what about push notification that was promised before I bought the phone, almost a year ago.
    The reason I started thinking about switching phones is because I had to set up several BBs here at work, and remembered how they work, and how much easier it is to type on them.
    The iPhone is cool, and the 3rd party apps and games are cool, but it seems iPhone base apps are the weak point here. I’ll get a Pre or a BB next.

  • Thomas

    Yes, I would do just that. Although I like my iPhone I am looking to get rid of it in favor of a device with a physical keyboard. I can type much faster on those. Also, I am not happy with some features that the iPhone does not have. I need cut/copy and paste. The fact that the iPhone does not have it is crazy. I also want background processes, and what about push notification that was promised before I bought the phone, almost a year ago.
    The reason I started thinking about switching phones is because I had to set up several BBs here at work, and remembered how they work, and how much easier it is to type on them.
    The iPhone is cool, and the 3rd party apps and games are cool, but it seems iPhone base apps are the weak point here. I’ll get a Pre or a BB next.

  • wintersdark

    Hmm? No. What does the Pre offer that my jailbroken iPhone doesn’t? Smaller screen, slide mechanism that will certainly break after a few months of quality pocket time? I don’t buy things just because they are new.

  • wintersdark

    Hmm? No. What does the Pre offer that my jailbroken iPhone doesn’t? Smaller screen, slide mechanism that will certainly break after a few months of quality pocket time? I don’t buy things just because they are new.

  • wintersdark

    Hmm? No. What does the Pre offer that my jailbroken iPhone doesn’t? Smaller screen, slide mechanism that will certainly break after a few months of quality pocket time? I don’t buy things just because they are new.

  • wintersdark

    Hmm? No. What does the Pre offer that my jailbroken iPhone doesn’t? Smaller screen, slide mechanism that will certainly break after a few months of quality pocket time? I don’t buy things just because they are new.

  • Thomas

    Your right about BBs and Macs not mixing. I had to install Windows XP in a Virtual Machine to get it working and syncing. Works great now though.

  • Thomas

    Your right about BBs and Macs not mixing. I had to install Windows XP in a Virtual Machine to get it working and syncing. Works great now though.

  • Thomas

    Your right about BBs and Macs not mixing. I had to install Windows XP in a Virtual Machine to get it working and syncing. Works great now though.

  • Thomas

    Your right about BBs and Macs not mixing. I had to install Windows XP in a Virtual Machine to get it working and syncing. Works great now though.

  • guy

    I will be keeping the iphone, dismissing the Pre. I have used Palm products and they are ok, but Apple has got it dialed in right now. I can’t wait to be jealous when my wife picks up the NEXT generation iphone.
    And by the way, it is “PIQUED” in “What piqued my interest though…”

  • guy

    I will be keeping the iphone, dismissing the Pre. I have used Palm products and they are ok, but Apple has got it dialed in right now. I can’t wait to be jealous when my wife picks up the NEXT generation iphone.
    And by the way, it is “PIQUED” in “What piqued my interest though…”

  • guy

    I will be keeping the iphone, dismissing the Pre. I have used Palm products and they are ok, but Apple has got it dialed in right now. I can’t wait to be jealous when my wife picks up the NEXT generation iphone.
    And by the way, it is “PIQUED” in “What piqued my interest though…”

  • guy

    I will be keeping the iphone, dismissing the Pre. I have used Palm products and they are ok, but Apple has got it dialed in right now. I can’t wait to be jealous when my wife picks up the NEXT generation iphone.
    And by the way, it is “PIQUED” in “What piqued my interest though…”

  • Kosmo

    No. I would like to see some additional features in the iPhone: copy and paste (please!), reminders in third-party applications, development environment under Windows (no Mac :(), multiple Exchange accounts, screen scrapping for OWA, etc., but these are not make me to switch from the iPhone. As for the keyboard: I’m using several different keyboards, and the virtual keyboard is perfect for me!

  • Kosmo

    No. I would like to see some additional features in the iPhone: copy and paste (please!), reminders in third-party applications, development environment under Windows (no Mac :(), multiple Exchange accounts, screen scrapping for OWA, etc., but these are not make me to switch from the iPhone. As for the keyboard: I’m using several different keyboards, and the virtual keyboard is perfect for me!

  • Kosmo

    No. I would like to see some additional features in the iPhone: copy and paste (please!), reminders in third-party applications, development environment under Windows (no Mac :(), multiple Exchange accounts, screen scrapping for OWA, etc., but these are not make me to switch from the iPhone. As for the keyboard: I’m using several different keyboards, and the virtual keyboard is perfect for me!

  • Dusty

    Nope, never used a palm. I would most likely switch back to Telus as there way better then Rogers, and would have to see what they offer 😉

  • Guest

    Nope, never used a palm. I would most likely switch back to Telus as there way better then Rogers, and would have to see what they offer 😉

  • mark

    I’d consider it, I use the iphone for its function, not because I have any particular allegiance or attachment to Apple. I am getting kind of sick of the touch screen keyboard and it looks like the Pre has integrated a real keyboard quite well.

    Also, with regards to the CEO of Palm and his comments, this is what these guys do. It’s there job to project excessive confidence with regard to their products. I doubt he’s making these outlandish statements without a bit of his tongue in cheek. He does make an interesting point with contract holders on AT&T who signed up for the first phone and are coming due for a new one. Apple best release their next model before then or I wouldn’t be surprised if a few people did switch to the Pre

  • mark

    I’d consider it, I use the iphone for its function, not because I have any particular allegiance or attachment to Apple. I am getting kind of sick of the touch screen keyboard and it looks like the Pre has integrated a real keyboard quite well.

    Also, with regards to the CEO of Palm and his comments, this is what these guys do. It’s there job to project excessive confidence with regard to their products. I doubt he’s making these outlandish statements without a bit of his tongue in cheek. He does make an interesting point with contract holders on AT&T who signed up for the first phone and are coming due for a new one. Apple best release their next model before then or I wouldn’t be surprised if a few people did switch to the Pre

  • mark

    I’d consider it, I use the iphone for its function, not because I have any particular allegiance or attachment to Apple. I am getting kind of sick of the touch screen keyboard and it looks like the Pre has integrated a real keyboard quite well.

    Also, with regards to the CEO of Palm and his comments, this is what these guys do. It’s there job to project excessive confidence with regard to their products. I doubt he’s making these outlandish statements without a bit of his tongue in cheek. He does make an interesting point with contract holders on AT&T who signed up for the first phone and are coming due for a new one. Apple best release their next model before then or I wouldn’t be surprised if a few people did switch to the Pre

  • mark

    I’d consider it, I use the iphone for its function, not because I have any particular allegiance or attachment to Apple. I am getting kind of sick of the touch screen keyboard and it looks like the Pre has integrated a real keyboard quite well.

    Also, with regards to the CEO of Palm and his comments, this is what these guys do. It’s there job to project excessive confidence with regard to their products. I doubt he’s making these outlandish statements without a bit of his tongue in cheek. He does make an interesting point with contract holders on AT&T who signed up for the first phone and are coming due for a new one. Apple best release their next model before then or I wouldn’t be surprised if a few people did switch to the Pre

  • rehan

    I purchased a 2G Iphone (from USA), gave it to my wife and got myself a BB bold, (what a disappointment), since I had sign up for three years contract with blood sucking rogers, they wouldnt let me trade it for an Iphone. I sold my bold on kijiji, and add another $50 to get myself a brand new 3G 16gb iphone..
    Oh yea , I won’t consider going for PALM, as I am in love with my iphone…

  • rehan

    I purchased a 2G Iphone (from USA), gave it to my wife and got myself a BB bold, (what a disappointment), since I had sign up for three years contract with blood sucking rogers, they wouldnt let me trade it for an Iphone. I sold my bold on kijiji, and add another $50 to get myself a brand new 3G 16gb iphone..
    Oh yea , I won’t consider going for PALM, as I am in love with my iphone…

  • rehan

    I purchased a 2G Iphone (from USA), gave it to my wife and got myself a BB bold, (what a disappointment), since I had sign up for three years contract with blood sucking rogers, they wouldnt let me trade it for an Iphone. I sold my bold on kijiji, and add another $50 to get myself a brand new 3G 16gb iphone..
    Oh yea , I won’t consider going for PALM, as I am in love with my iphone…

  • Justin

    Sorry for this off topic question. I tried looking through the forum with no luck. I just got my PC cleaned and forgot the software that allows me to view & transfer files off from my 3G iPhone to my PC using the sync cable. Anyone know what the software is plus link to it. Thanks.

  • Justin

    Sorry for this off topic question. I tried looking through the forum with no luck. I just got my PC cleaned and forgot the software that allows me to view & transfer files off from my 3G iPhone to my PC using the sync cable. Anyone know what the software is plus link to it. Thanks.

  • Justin

    Sorry for this off topic question. I tried looking through the forum with no luck. I just got my PC cleaned and forgot the software that allows me to view & transfer files off from my 3G iPhone to my PC using the sync cable. Anyone know what the software is plus link to it. Thanks.

  • Justin

    Sorry for this off topic question. I tried looking through the forum with no luck. I just got my PC cleaned and forgot the software that allows me to view & transfer files off from my 3G iPhone to my PC using the sync cable. Anyone know what the software is plus link to it. Thanks.

  • Jon

    I think its been mentionned but the fact that apple does not only provide an amazing user experience with the iPhone but it does it even better with their computers. Hence, it is a lifestyle. All 3 of my macs are synced with my 3 iPhones. Everything works great, no bugs, my wife and I are always up to date and synced. She has a 2G iPhone as her secondary phone. Her first phone (provided by her employer) is a blackberry (cheap one) and she can’t sync it with ease and the contacts and interface are never as user friendly as the iPhone. The fact that Palm is coming out with something that is supposedly faster on internet is a nice touch but it is not a complete experience for the user. The problem is they are focusing on the phone. Apple focuses on giving the users what they need and give them something extra that once you discover, you wonder how you ever lived without it. Just look at the new Safari 4. I mean wow. Now imagine that this will probably will be coming on the iPhone. The AppStore is being copied left and right but the devices seem to be reacting to the success of Apple. On the other hand, Apple built the device and they already knew what they would be adding to it. Therefore, no need to insert a memory stick, the capacity is there with 8 and 16gb. We can only imagine that with all of the new software (ilife and snow leopard) that the iPhone might even support some of ilife’s options. Imagine editing a track from Garageband while you are showing off your work to a producer. Anyways, good luck Palm because I don’t think that the minding of the cell phone business is what users want. People get sick of stagnating devices. The iPhone has seen 14 upgrades since the appearance of the device in not even 2 years. Wow, talk about innovative. We also have the option to Jailbreak (for some its a challenge and exciting) and unlock our phones. I think competition is always good as it fuels Apple to improve their ways and I know that once again, everyone will be blown away with the future. I would never change back to PC and go with a “look-a-like” imitation of the iPhone and have to run unfamiliar and not as user-friendly operating system plus the keyboard just says ” I refuse to admit that Apple is showing us what the future is all about “. Get on the boat and ditch the keyboard. Since software 1.0, Apple has improved the keyboard functionnality and I can honestly say that I am extremely accurate with the keyboard both in french and in English.

    So there you have it, Apple all the way and remember that when you purchase a piece of equipement, it is not only the looks but what it brings you and what it can bring you. Does the company lead or does it try to catch up without ever leading? I think its clear that Apple is here to stay and it will keep new comers trying to come up with some concept to steal a few clients.

  • Jon

    I think its been mentionned but the fact that apple does not only provide an amazing user experience with the iPhone but it does it even better with their computers. Hence, it is a lifestyle. All 3 of my macs are synced with my 3 iPhones. Everything works great, no bugs, my wife and I are always up to date and synced. She has a 2G iPhone as her secondary phone. Her first phone (provided by her employer) is a blackberry (cheap one) and she can’t sync it with ease and the contacts and interface are never as user friendly as the iPhone. The fact that Palm is coming out with something that is supposedly faster on internet is a nice touch but it is not a complete experience for the user. The problem is they are focusing on the phone. Apple focuses on giving the users what they need and give them something extra that once you discover, you wonder how you ever lived without it. Just look at the new Safari 4. I mean wow. Now imagine that this will probably will be coming on the iPhone. The AppStore is being copied left and right but the devices seem to be reacting to the success of Apple. On the other hand, Apple built the device and they already knew what they would be adding to it. Therefore, no need to insert a memory stick, the capacity is there with 8 and 16gb. We can only imagine that with all of the new software (ilife and snow leopard) that the iPhone might even support some of ilife’s options. Imagine editing a track from Garageband while you are showing off your work to a producer. Anyways, good luck Palm because I don’t think that the minding of the cell phone business is what users want. People get sick of stagnating devices. The iPhone has seen 14 upgrades since the appearance of the device in not even 2 years. Wow, talk about innovative. We also have the option to Jailbreak (for some its a challenge and exciting) and unlock our phones. I think competition is always good as it fuels Apple to improve their ways and I know that once again, everyone will be blown away with the future. I would never change back to PC and go with a “look-a-like” imitation of the iPhone and have to run unfamiliar and not as user-friendly operating system plus the keyboard just says ” I refuse to admit that Apple is showing us what the future is all about “. Get on the boat and ditch the keyboard. Since software 1.0, Apple has improved the keyboard functionnality and I can honestly say that I am extremely accurate with the keyboard both in french and in English.

    So there you have it, Apple all the way and remember that when you purchase a piece of equipement, it is not only the looks but what it brings you and what it can bring you. Does the company lead or does it try to catch up without ever leading? I think its clear that Apple is here to stay and it will keep new comers trying to come up with some concept to steal a few clients.

  • Jon

    I think its been mentionned but the fact that apple does not only provide an amazing user experience with the iPhone but it does it even better with their computers. Hence, it is a lifestyle. All 3 of my macs are synced with my 3 iPhones. Everything works great, no bugs, my wife and I are always up to date and synced. She has a 2G iPhone as her secondary phone. Her first phone (provided by her employer) is a blackberry (cheap one) and she can’t sync it with ease and the contacts and interface are never as user friendly as the iPhone. The fact that Palm is coming out with something that is supposedly faster on internet is a nice touch but it is not a complete experience for the user. The problem is they are focusing on the phone. Apple focuses on giving the users what they need and give them something extra that once you discover, you wonder how you ever lived without it. Just look at the new Safari 4. I mean wow. Now imagine that this will probably will be coming on the iPhone. The AppStore is being copied left and right but the devices seem to be reacting to the success of Apple. On the other hand, Apple built the device and they already knew what they would be adding to it. Therefore, no need to insert a memory stick, the capacity is there with 8 and 16gb. We can only imagine that with all of the new software (ilife and snow leopard) that the iPhone might even support some of ilife’s options. Imagine editing a track from Garageband while you are showing off your work to a producer. Anyways, good luck Palm because I don’t think that the minding of the cell phone business is what users want. People get sick of stagnating devices. The iPhone has seen 14 upgrades since the appearance of the device in not even 2 years. Wow, talk about innovative. We also have the option to Jailbreak (for some its a challenge and exciting) and unlock our phones. I think competition is always good as it fuels Apple to improve their ways and I know that once again, everyone will be blown away with the future. I would never change back to PC and go with a “look-a-like” imitation of the iPhone and have to run unfamiliar and not as user-friendly operating system plus the keyboard just says ” I refuse to admit that Apple is showing us what the future is all about “. Get on the boat and ditch the keyboard. Since software 1.0, Apple has improved the keyboard functionnality and I can honestly say that I am extremely accurate with the keyboard both in french and in English.

    So there you have it, Apple all the way and remember that when you purchase a piece of equipement, it is not only the looks but what it brings you and what it can bring you. Does the company lead or does it try to catch up without ever leading? I think its clear that Apple is here to stay and it will keep new comers trying to come up with some concept to steal a few clients.

  • Jon

    I think its been mentionned but the fact that apple does not only provide an amazing user experience with the iPhone but it does it even better with their computers. Hence, it is a lifestyle. All 3 of my macs are synced with my 3 iPhones. Everything works great, no bugs, my wife and I are always up to date and synced. She has a 2G iPhone as her secondary phone. Her first phone (provided by her employer) is a blackberry (cheap one) and she can’t sync it with ease and the contacts and interface are never as user friendly as the iPhone. The fact that Palm is coming out with something that is supposedly faster on internet is a nice touch but it is not a complete experience for the user. The problem is they are focusing on the phone. Apple focuses on giving the users what they need and give them something extra that once you discover, you wonder how you ever lived without it. Just look at the new Safari 4. I mean wow. Now imagine that this will probably will be coming on the iPhone. The AppStore is being copied left and right but the devices seem to be reacting to the success of Apple. On the other hand, Apple built the device and they already knew what they would be adding to it. Therefore, no need to insert a memory stick, the capacity is there with 8 and 16gb. We can only imagine that with all of the new software (ilife and snow leopard) that the iPhone might even support some of ilife’s options. Imagine editing a track from Garageband while you are showing off your work to a producer. Anyways, good luck Palm because I don’t think that the minding of the cell phone business is what users want. People get sick of stagnating devices. The iPhone has seen 14 upgrades since the appearance of the device in not even 2 years. Wow, talk about innovative. We also have the option to Jailbreak (for some its a challenge and exciting) and unlock our phones. I think competition is always good as it fuels Apple to improve their ways and I know that once again, everyone will be blown away with the future. I would never change back to PC and go with a “look-a-like” imitation of the iPhone and have to run unfamiliar and not as user-friendly operating system plus the keyboard just says ” I refuse to admit that Apple is showing us what the future is all about “. Get on the boat and ditch the keyboard. Since software 1.0, Apple has improved the keyboard functionnality and I can honestly say that I am extremely accurate with the keyboard both in french and in English.

    So there you have it, Apple all the way and remember that when you purchase a piece of equipement, it is not only the looks but what it brings you and what it can bring you. Does the company lead or does it try to catch up without ever leading? I think its clear that Apple is here to stay and it will keep new comers trying to come up with some concept to steal a few clients.

  • I can’t imagine buying another phone that is NOT an iPhone. No other phone has even made me turn my head. I understand the “physical keyboard” argument, but it’s not enough for me to abandon everything else the iPhone does.

    Anything else that you think is missing from the iPhone, can probably be fixed with software. For example, if you really want copy/paste, Jailbreak your device and install “Clippy”. Works just like you think iPhone copy/paste should.

  • I can’t imagine buying another phone that is NOT an iPhone. No other phone has even made me turn my head. I understand the “physical keyboard” argument, but it’s not enough for me to abandon everything else the iPhone does.

    Anything else that you think is missing from the iPhone, can probably be fixed with software. For example, if you really want copy/paste, Jailbreak your device and install “Clippy”. Works just like you think iPhone copy/paste should.

  • I can’t imagine buying another phone that is NOT an iPhone. No other phone has even made me turn my head. I understand the “physical keyboard” argument, but it’s not enough for me to abandon everything else the iPhone does.

    Anything else that you think is missing from the iPhone, can probably be fixed with software. For example, if you really want copy/paste, Jailbreak your device and install “Clippy”. Works just like you think iPhone copy/paste should.

  • I can’t imagine buying another phone that is NOT an iPhone. No other phone has even made me turn my head. I understand the “physical keyboard” argument, but it’s not enough for me to abandon everything else the iPhone does.

    Anything else that you think is missing from the iPhone, can probably be fixed with software. For example, if you really want copy/paste, Jailbreak your device and install “Clippy”. Works just like you think iPhone copy/paste should.

  • bringer666

    I came from the Palm world and in the early days they were the one to beat by far but they did not keep up with the competition and I finally dumped my Treo for the iPhone. Although I love the phone, as other people have posted, it’s missing some key stuff. I would LOVE copy and paste and real document and spreadsheet editing. Heck, I just need a calendar app that gives me an alert that I can hear and allows me to put in an event that reoccurs every 4th Wednesday.
    After seeing the Pre at CES, I have to say I was really blown away. If the PIM functionality is as good as previous Palm efforts and if the bells and whistles actually work as advertised, this phone will be a killer. However, I am stuck with the 3 year Rogers “ball and chain” and Palm has not mentioned when the Pre is coming to Canada yet. In 2.5 years, when my contract is up, I will look at what the choices are. Depending on what Apple, Palm and maybe RIM are offering at that time, I will make my final decision then.

  • bringer666

    I came from the Palm world and in the early days they were the one to beat by far but they did not keep up with the competition and I finally dumped my Treo for the iPhone. Although I love the phone, as other people have posted, it’s missing some key stuff. I would LOVE copy and paste and real document and spreadsheet editing. Heck, I just need a calendar app that gives me an alert that I can hear and allows me to put in an event that reoccurs every 4th Wednesday.
    After seeing the Pre at CES, I have to say I was really blown away. If the PIM functionality is as good as previous Palm efforts and if the bells and whistles actually work as advertised, this phone will be a killer. However, I am stuck with the 3 year Rogers “ball and chain” and Palm has not mentioned when the Pre is coming to Canada yet. In 2.5 years, when my contract is up, I will look at what the choices are. Depending on what Apple, Palm and maybe RIM are offering at that time, I will make my final decision then.

  • bringer666

    I came from the Palm world and in the early days they were the one to beat by far but they did not keep up with the competition and I finally dumped my Treo for the iPhone. Although I love the phone, as other people have posted, it’s missing some key stuff. I would LOVE copy and paste and real document and spreadsheet editing. Heck, I just need a calendar app that gives me an alert that I can hear and allows me to put in an event that reoccurs every 4th Wednesday.
    After seeing the Pre at CES, I have to say I was really blown away. If the PIM functionality is as good as previous Palm efforts and if the bells and whistles actually work as advertised, this phone will be a killer. However, I am stuck with the 3 year Rogers “ball and chain” and Palm has not mentioned when the Pre is coming to Canada yet. In 2.5 years, when my contract is up, I will look at what the choices are. Depending on what Apple, Palm and maybe RIM are offering at that time, I will make my final decision then.

  • bringer666

    I came from the Palm world and in the early days they were the one to beat by far but they did not keep up with the competition and I finally dumped my Treo for the iPhone. Although I love the phone, as other people have posted, it’s missing some key stuff. I would LOVE copy and paste and real document and spreadsheet editing. Heck, I just need a calendar app that gives me an alert that I can hear and allows me to put in an event that reoccurs every 4th Wednesday.
    After seeing the Pre at CES, I have to say I was really blown away. If the PIM functionality is as good as previous Palm efforts and if the bells and whistles actually work as advertised, this phone will be a killer. However, I am stuck with the 3 year Rogers “ball and chain” and Palm has not mentioned when the Pre is coming to Canada yet. In 2.5 years, when my contract is up, I will look at what the choices are. Depending on what Apple, Palm and maybe RIM are offering at that time, I will make my final decision then.

  • bringer666

    I came from the Palm world and in the early days they were the one to beat by far but they did not keep up with the competition and I finally dumped my Treo for the iPhone. Although I love the phone, as other people have posted, it’s missing some key stuff. I would LOVE copy and paste and real document and spreadsheet editing. Heck, I just need a calendar app that gives me an alert that I can hear and allows me to put in an event that reoccurs every 4th Wednesday.
    After seeing the Pre at CES, I have to say I was really blown away. If the PIM functionality is as good as previous Palm efforts and if the bells and whistles actually work as advertised, this phone will be a killer. However, I am stuck with the 3 year Rogers “ball and chain” and Palm has not mentioned when the Pre is coming to Canada yet. In 2.5 years, when my contract is up, I will look at what the choices are. Depending on what Apple, Palm and maybe RIM are offering at that time, I will make my final decision then.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I probably will always stick with the iphone but who isn’t impressed with Pre’s line up of stuff it has. It will be interesting. Competition will give us an even better iphone.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I probably will always stick with the iphone but who isn’t impressed with Pre’s line up of stuff it has. It will be interesting. Competition will give us an even better iphone.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I probably will always stick with the iphone but who isn’t impressed with Pre’s line up of stuff it has. It will be interesting. Competition will give us an even better iphone.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I probably will always stick with the iphone but who isn’t impressed with Pre’s line up of stuff it has. It will be interesting. Competition will give us an even better iphone.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I probably will always stick with the iphone but who isn’t impressed with Pre’s line up of stuff it has. It will be interesting. Competition will give us an even better iphone.

  • StewartK

    Oh to have a 2 year contract…..

  • StewartK

    Oh to have a 2 year contract…..

  • StewartK

    Oh to have a 2 year contract…..

  • StewartK

    Oh to have a 2 year contract…..

  • Andrew

    Get the program Missing Sync For Blackberry for you mac. I just got it a couple weeks ago and it actually works. Unlike the POS one you can get from blackberry’s website which didnt do squat for me.

  • Andrew

    Get the program Missing Sync For Blackberry for you mac. I just got it a couple weeks ago and it actually works. Unlike the POS one you can get from blackberry’s website which didnt do squat for me.

  • Andrew

    Get the program Missing Sync For Blackberry for you mac. I just got it a couple weeks ago and it actually works. Unlike the POS one you can get from blackberry’s website which didnt do squat for me.

  • Andrew

    Hmm This would be a toughy. I’ll be honest I HATE the touch screen QWERTY keyboard that everyone seems to like. I have both a blackberry curve and the iphone 3g. The blackberry was my phone before and I’ll admit once and a while I switch my sim card back to it for the day because I get frustrated texting with the iphone. It’s just so much faster on a physical keyboard that you can feel. Now I agree with the fact that before i’d consider buying one I’d defiantly have to try it out. There is a lot of hype but like many things that often leads to a disappointment. Im sure there will be lots of features missing on the iphone like cut and paste, mms, etc but is that enough for me to change…not likely. Plus how do you beat the APP store?! Thats the main reason i use the phone is all the cool apps. The blackberry store sounds like it blows (like who is going to pay 5 bucks for a level application on their storm…there are millions of better free ones for the iphone…Not a great app but an example). I think the palm pre will be more popular then some of the blackberries….but not the iphone 3g. I’m sticking with it until further notice haha.

  • Andrew

    Hmm This would be a toughy. I’ll be honest I HATE the touch screen QWERTY keyboard that everyone seems to like. I have both a blackberry curve and the iphone 3g. The blackberry was my phone before and I’ll admit once and a while I switch my sim card back to it for the day because I get frustrated texting with the iphone. It’s just so much faster on a physical keyboard that you can feel. Now I agree with the fact that before i’d consider buying one I’d defiantly have to try it out. There is a lot of hype but like many things that often leads to a disappointment. Im sure there will be lots of features missing on the iphone like cut and paste, mms, etc but is that enough for me to change…not likely. Plus how do you beat the APP store?! Thats the main reason i use the phone is all the cool apps. The blackberry store sounds like it blows (like who is going to pay 5 bucks for a level application on their storm…there are millions of better free ones for the iphone…Not a great app but an example). I think the palm pre will be more popular then some of the blackberries….but not the iphone 3g. I’m sticking with it until further notice haha.

  • Andrew

    Hmm This would be a toughy. I’ll be honest I HATE the touch screen QWERTY keyboard that everyone seems to like. I have both a blackberry curve and the iphone 3g. The blackberry was my phone before and I’ll admit once and a while I switch my sim card back to it for the day because I get frustrated texting with the iphone. It’s just so much faster on a physical keyboard that you can feel. Now I agree with the fact that before i’d consider buying one I’d defiantly have to try it out. There is a lot of hype but like many things that often leads to a disappointment. Im sure there will be lots of features missing on the iphone like cut and paste, mms, etc but is that enough for me to change…not likely. Plus how do you beat the APP store?! Thats the main reason i use the phone is all the cool apps. The blackberry store sounds like it blows (like who is going to pay 5 bucks for a level application on their storm…there are millions of better free ones for the iphone…Not a great app but an example). I think the palm pre will be more popular then some of the blackberries….but not the iphone 3g. I’m sticking with it until further notice haha.

  • Andrew

    Hmm This would be a toughy. I’ll be honest I HATE the touch screen QWERTY keyboard that everyone seems to like. I have both a blackberry curve and the iphone 3g. The blackberry was my phone before and I’ll admit once and a while I switch my sim card back to it for the day because I get frustrated texting with the iphone. It’s just so much faster on a physical keyboard that you can feel. Now I agree with the fact that before i’d consider buying one I’d defiantly have to try it out. There is a lot of hype but like many things that often leads to a disappointment. Im sure there will be lots of features missing on the iphone like cut and paste, mms, etc but is that enough for me to change…not likely. Plus how do you beat the APP store?! Thats the main reason i use the phone is all the cool apps. The blackberry store sounds like it blows (like who is going to pay 5 bucks for a level application on their storm…there are millions of better free ones for the iphone…Not a great app but an example). I think the palm pre will be more popular then some of the blackberries….but not the iphone 3g. I’m sticking with it until further notice haha.

  • bc

    I used to be a huge Palm fan, having owned various models since the original US Robotics PalmPilot until finally the Treo 650. Now an iPhone user. The Pre sounds impressive but I guess time will tell – of course Palm hasn’t sold a single one, and I wonder if they can possibly have an app market even remotely as successful as the AppStore – which is really the key for the iPhone, not the hardware itself. And Palm has had a pretty poor track record of supporting the Mac, so I’ll not be going back – too many years of grief just trying to keep things in sync.
    Another thing that would worry me: as reported in their latest Q3 results, Palm burns about $100M in cash each quarter, and only has another $220M cash in reserve. Meanwhile revenue is down 73% from a year ago. There’s a LOT banking on the possible success of the Pre… on the other hand, I will be good for all of us to give the iPhone some competition, so I hope Palm doesn’t blow it

  • bc

    I used to be a huge Palm fan, having owned various models since the original US Robotics PalmPilot until finally the Treo 650. Now an iPhone user. The Pre sounds impressive but I guess time will tell – of course Palm hasn’t sold a single one, and I wonder if they can possibly have an app market even remotely as successful as the AppStore – which is really the key for the iPhone, not the hardware itself. And Palm has had a pretty poor track record of supporting the Mac, so I’ll not be going back – too many years of grief just trying to keep things in sync.
    Another thing that would worry me: as reported in their latest Q3 results, Palm burns about $100M in cash each quarter, and only has another $220M cash in reserve. Meanwhile revenue is down 73% from a year ago. There’s a LOT banking on the possible success of the Pre… on the other hand, I will be good for all of us to give the iPhone some competition, so I hope Palm doesn’t blow it

  • bc

    I used to be a huge Palm fan, having owned various models since the original US Robotics PalmPilot until finally the Treo 650. Now an iPhone user. The Pre sounds impressive but I guess time will tell – of course Palm hasn’t sold a single one, and I wonder if they can possibly have an app market even remotely as successful as the AppStore – which is really the key for the iPhone, not the hardware itself. And Palm has had a pretty poor track record of supporting the Mac, so I’ll not be going back – too many years of grief just trying to keep things in sync.
    Another thing that would worry me: as reported in their latest Q3 results, Palm burns about $100M in cash each quarter, and only has another $220M cash in reserve. Meanwhile revenue is down 73% from a year ago. There’s a LOT banking on the possible success of the Pre… on the other hand, I will be good for all of us to give the iPhone some competition, so I hope Palm doesn’t blow it

  • Mike

    I’ll stick to the iphone , maybe upgrade to a new iphone with a more powerful processor, better camera, 720p video recording and a safari flash support. I think those features will be included on the new iphone , the processing power is what’s holding it back… hopefully i will be able to buy the next iphone without extending my contract with rogers…

  • Mike

    I’ll stick to the iphone , maybe upgrade to a new iphone with a more powerful processor, better camera, 720p video recording and a safari flash support. I think those features will be included on the new iphone , the processing power is what’s holding it back… hopefully i will be able to buy the next iphone without extending my contract with rogers…

  • Mike

    I’ll stick to the iphone , maybe upgrade to a new iphone with a more powerful processor, better camera, 720p video recording and a safari flash support. I think those features will be included on the new iphone , the processing power is what’s holding it back… hopefully i will be able to buy the next iphone without extending my contract with rogers…

  • Mike

    I’ll stick to the iphone , maybe upgrade to a new iphone with a more powerful processor, better camera, 720p video recording and a safari flash support. I think those features will be included on the new iphone , the processing power is what’s holding it back… hopefully i will be able to buy the next iphone without extending my contract with rogers…

  • Mike

    I’ll stick to the iphone , maybe upgrade to a new iphone with a more powerful processor, better camera, 720p video recording and a safari flash support. I think those features will be included on the new iphone , the processing power is what’s holding it back… hopefully i will be able to buy the next iphone without extending my contract with rogers…

  • jacob rybalsky

    I’ll ues the iphone suer some pepole will say it look wores then pre but it doents have the garte cam and the huge $ apple ues to update it and the good blogs like this one

  • jacob rybalsky

    I’ll ues the iphone suer some pepole will say it look wores then pre but it doents have the garte cam and the huge $ apple ues to update it and the good blogs like this one

  • jacob rybalsky

    I’ll ues the iphone suer some pepole will say it look wores then pre but it doents have the garte cam and the huge $ apple ues to update it and the good blogs like this one

  • jacob rybalsky

    I’ll ues the iphone suer some pepole will say it look wores then pre but it doents have the garte cam and the huge $ apple ues to update it and the good blogs like this one

  • Bryan

    DiskAid will let you use the sync cable. You will have to be Jailbroken though to access all the files, otherwise it’ll just be the files in the Media directory.

  • Bryan

    DiskAid will let you use the sync cable. You will have to be Jailbroken though to access all the files, otherwise it’ll just be the files in the Media directory.

  • Bryan

    DiskAid will let you use the sync cable. You will have to be Jailbroken though to access all the files, otherwise it’ll just be the files in the Media directory.

  • Bryan

    DiskAid will let you use the sync cable. You will have to be Jailbroken though to access all the files, otherwise it’ll just be the files in the Media directory.

  • Bryan

    DiskAid will let you use the sync cable. You will have to be Jailbroken though to access all the files, otherwise it’ll just be the files in the Media directory.

  • Mike

    Hell no. I would never trade my iPhone for Palm Pre.

    Now that it’s jailbroken, I can copy and paste and do everything that people wished they could and more applications keep come.

    Try SSHing into your palm pre!!
    Try running a server on your palm pre!!
    No can do, but iPhone can.

    The only reason why people thing jailbreaking is bad is because of:
    1. the fear of voiding the warrenty
    2. jailbreaking sounds like you’re “breaking” your phone

    Both are absurd as you can ALWAYS revert to the factory setup, and jailbreaking is just a catch phrase for improving and circumventing lock mechanisms that apple has programmed into the phone (to block people from building useful apps) which in the lock mechanisims themselves are extra code, and extra time spent and cpu clock cycles and battery power.

  • Mike

    Hell no. I would never trade my iPhone for Palm Pre.

    Now that it’s jailbroken, I can copy and paste and do everything that people wished they could and more applications keep come.

    Try SSHing into your palm pre!!
    Try running a server on your palm pre!!
    No can do, but iPhone can.

    The only reason why people thing jailbreaking is bad is because of:
    1. the fear of voiding the warrenty
    2. jailbreaking sounds like you’re “breaking” your phone

    Both are absurd as you can ALWAYS revert to the factory setup, and jailbreaking is just a catch phrase for improving and circumventing lock mechanisms that apple has programmed into the phone (to block people from building useful apps) which in the lock mechanisims themselves are extra code, and extra time spent and cpu clock cycles and battery power.

  • Mike

    Hell no. I would never trade my iPhone for Palm Pre.

    Now that it’s jailbroken, I can copy and paste and do everything that people wished they could and more applications keep come.

    Try SSHing into your palm pre!!
    Try running a server on your palm pre!!
    No can do, but iPhone can.

    The only reason why people thing jailbreaking is bad is because of:
    1. the fear of voiding the warrenty
    2. jailbreaking sounds like you’re “breaking” your phone

    Both are absurd as you can ALWAYS revert to the factory setup, and jailbreaking is just a catch phrase for improving and circumventing lock mechanisms that apple has programmed into the phone (to block people from building useful apps) which in the lock mechanisims themselves are extra code, and extra time spent and cpu clock cycles and battery power.

  • Mike

    Hell no. I would never trade my iPhone for Palm Pre.

    Now that it’s jailbroken, I can copy and paste and do everything that people wished they could and more applications keep come.

    Try SSHing into your palm pre!!
    Try running a server on your palm pre!!
    No can do, but iPhone can.

    The only reason why people thing jailbreaking is bad is because of:
    1. the fear of voiding the warrenty
    2. jailbreaking sounds like you’re “breaking” your phone

    Both are absurd as you can ALWAYS revert to the factory setup, and jailbreaking is just a catch phrase for improving and circumventing lock mechanisms that apple has programmed into the phone (to block people from building useful apps) which in the lock mechanisims themselves are extra code, and extra time spent and cpu clock cycles and battery power.

  • Mike

    Hell no. I would never trade my iPhone for Palm Pre.

    Now that it’s jailbroken, I can copy and paste and do everything that people wished they could and more applications keep come.

    Try SSHing into your palm pre!!
    Try running a server on your palm pre!!
    No can do, but iPhone can.

    The only reason why people thing jailbreaking is bad is because of:
    1. the fear of voiding the warrenty
    2. jailbreaking sounds like you’re “breaking” your phone

    Both are absurd as you can ALWAYS revert to the factory setup, and jailbreaking is just a catch phrase for improving and circumventing lock mechanisms that apple has programmed into the phone (to block people from building useful apps) which in the lock mechanisims themselves are extra code, and extra time spent and cpu clock cycles and battery power.

  • Mike

    Hell no. I would never trade my iPhone for Palm Pre.

    Now that it’s jailbroken, I can copy and paste and do everything that people wished they could and more applications keep come.

    Try SSHing into your palm pre!!
    Try running a server on your palm pre!!
    No can do, but iPhone can.

    The only reason why people thing jailbreaking is bad is because of:
    1. the fear of voiding the warrenty
    2. jailbreaking sounds like you’re “breaking” your phone

    Both are absurd as you can ALWAYS revert to the factory setup, and jailbreaking is just a catch phrase for improving and circumventing lock mechanisms that apple has programmed into the phone (to block people from building useful apps) which in the lock mechanisims themselves are extra code, and extra time spent and cpu clock cycles and battery power.

  • Mike

    Actually I retract the comments about running SSH and a server on Palm Pre.
    Apparently you can!!! 🙂
    But for crying out loud .. what is it with people and their damn keyboard issues on the iPhone – it works just as fine as a physical keyboard

  • Mike

    Actually I retract the comments about running SSH and a server on Palm Pre.
    Apparently you can!!! 🙂
    But for crying out loud .. what is it with people and their damn keyboard issues on the iPhone – it works just as fine as a physical keyboard

  • Mike

    Actually I retract the comments about running SSH and a server on Palm Pre.
    Apparently you can!!! 🙂
    But for crying out loud .. what is it with people and their damn keyboard issues on the iPhone – it works just as fine as a physical keyboard

  • Mike

    Actually I retract the comments about running SSH and a server on Palm Pre.
    Apparently you can!!! 🙂
    But for crying out loud .. what is it with people and their damn keyboard issues on the iPhone – it works just as fine as a physical keyboard

  • Roger McNamee is not Palm’s CEO. Ed Colligan is Palm’s CEO. Roger McNamee leads one of the investment groups that is bankrolling the Pre initiative. His comments are bullish but for once in the last several years, Palm has a reason to be.

    This brings back memories of how the Newton was taken down by Palm during the second coming of Steve Jobs. Not even a Steven Segal movie where he sent a “FAX” to the Pentagon High Command with the Newton could save it (Movie: Under Siege). Even then, Apple tried to be slick with marketing (product placement) and it didn’t work against a greater adversary.

    Apple will have to do better than giving more color choices and extra memory (or even Stereo Bluetooth) in the next “One More Thing” to compete against a distinctly higher quality hardware build with an OS to go with it. But given how Apple needs to squeeze each new fruit for a while longer, I can’t see the next iPhone announcement being much more than that. The platform hasn’t run it’s life cycle.

    iPhone users will probably have to wait till next year for new hardware, which is one of the strategic reasons why a Summer launch by Palm could give them the foothold they need to capture a slice of the Apple iPhone market, making strategy and statements not quite so off base.

  • Roger McNamee is not Palm’s CEO. Ed Colligan is Palm’s CEO. Roger McNamee leads one of the investment groups that is bankrolling the Pre initiative. His comments are bullish but for once in the last several years, Palm has a reason to be.

    This brings back memories of how the Newton was taken down by Palm during the second coming of Steve Jobs. Not even a Steven Segal movie where he sent a “FAX” to the Pentagon High Command with the Newton could save it (Movie: Under Siege). Even then, Apple tried to be slick with marketing (product placement) and it didn’t work against a greater adversary.

    Apple will have to do better than giving more color choices and extra memory (or even Stereo Bluetooth) in the next “One More Thing” to compete against a distinctly higher quality hardware build with an OS to go with it. But given how Apple needs to squeeze each new fruit for a while longer, I can’t see the next iPhone announcement being much more than that. The platform hasn’t run it’s life cycle.

    iPhone users will probably have to wait till next year for new hardware, which is one of the strategic reasons why a Summer launch by Palm could give them the foothold they need to capture a slice of the Apple iPhone market, making strategy and statements not quite so off base.

  • Roger McNamee is not Palm’s CEO. Ed Colligan is Palm’s CEO. Roger McNamee leads one of the investment groups that is bankrolling the Pre initiative. His comments are bullish but for once in the last several years, Palm has a reason to be.

    This brings back memories of how the Newton was taken down by Palm during the second coming of Steve Jobs. Not even a Steven Segal movie where he sent a “FAX” to the Pentagon High Command with the Newton could save it (Movie: Under Siege). Even then, Apple tried to be slick with marketing (product placement) and it didn’t work against a greater adversary.

    Apple will have to do better than giving more color choices and extra memory (or even Stereo Bluetooth) in the next “One More Thing” to compete against a distinctly higher quality hardware build with an OS to go with it. But given how Apple needs to squeeze each new fruit for a while longer, I can’t see the next iPhone announcement being much more than that. The platform hasn’t run it’s life cycle.

    iPhone users will probably have to wait till next year for new hardware, which is one of the strategic reasons why a Summer launch by Palm could give them the foothold they need to capture a slice of the Apple iPhone market, making strategy and statements not quite so off base.

  • Roger McNamee is not Palm’s CEO. Ed Colligan is Palm’s CEO. Roger McNamee leads one of the investment groups that is bankrolling the Pre initiative. His comments are bullish but for once in the last several years, Palm has a reason to be.

    This brings back memories of how the Newton was taken down by Palm during the second coming of Steve Jobs. Not even a Steven Segal movie where he sent a “FAX” to the Pentagon High Command with the Newton could save it (Movie: Under Siege). Even then, Apple tried to be slick with marketing (product placement) and it didn’t work against a greater adversary.

    Apple will have to do better than giving more color choices and extra memory (or even Stereo Bluetooth) in the next “One More Thing” to compete against a distinctly higher quality hardware build with an OS to go with it. But given how Apple needs to squeeze each new fruit for a while longer, I can’t see the next iPhone announcement being much more than that. The platform hasn’t run it’s life cycle.

    iPhone users will probably have to wait till next year for new hardware, which is one of the strategic reasons why a Summer launch by Palm could give them the foothold they need to capture a slice of the Apple iPhone market, making strategy and statements not quite so off base.

  • Roger McNamee is not Palm’s CEO. Ed Colligan is Palm’s CEO. Roger McNamee leads one of the investment groups that is bankrolling the Pre initiative. His comments are bullish but for once in the last several years, Palm has a reason to be.

    This brings back memories of how the Newton was taken down by Palm during the second coming of Steve Jobs. Not even a Steven Segal movie where he sent a “FAX” to the Pentagon High Command with the Newton could save it (Movie: Under Siege). Even then, Apple tried to be slick with marketing (product placement) and it didn’t work against a greater adversary.

    Apple will have to do better than giving more color choices and extra memory (or even Stereo Bluetooth) in the next “One More Thing” to compete against a distinctly higher quality hardware build with an OS to go with it. But given how Apple needs to squeeze each new fruit for a while longer, I can’t see the next iPhone announcement being much more than that. The platform hasn’t run it’s life cycle.

    iPhone users will probably have to wait till next year for new hardware, which is one of the strategic reasons why a Summer launch by Palm could give them the foothold they need to capture a slice of the Apple iPhone market, making strategy and statements not quite so off base.

  • Jan

    I figure that in the end it doesn’t really matter much. SOMEONE is going to get your 400$ (+) and whether or not you prefer a fake keyboard versus a real one, is so subjective, it can hardly be used as a general point of contention. The software I have come to love, due to Apple’s user friendly approach, is probably the main selling point of the device. I personally use my phone mostly for listening to music, or scheduling things much like I might with an ipod touch. The benefit is that I don’t have to carry another device in my pants pocket.

    Bottom Line: Let’s see Palm, or BB come out with a half decent music player, to stand up to the iPod first, and THEN tackle the phone industry. Perhaps they will then understand how to create an all in one device worth handing over your left nut for. And for you users who abhore the iPhone because it’s not as business friendly, I might agree with you if I had to use it for that purpose. What I could see in the future, are two sets or versions of software. One for layman users like myself, and another tailored more for a business/work environment. They would only need to augment/change a few applications, to make it much more practical for the office environment.

    Cheers

  • Jan

    I figure that in the end it doesn’t really matter much. SOMEONE is going to get your 400$ (+) and whether or not you prefer a fake keyboard versus a real one, is so subjective, it can hardly be used as a general point of contention. The software I have come to love, due to Apple’s user friendly approach, is probably the main selling point of the device. I personally use my phone mostly for listening to music, or scheduling things much like I might with an ipod touch. The benefit is that I don’t have to carry another device in my pants pocket.

    Bottom Line: Let’s see Palm, or BB come out with a half decent music player, to stand up to the iPod first, and THEN tackle the phone industry. Perhaps they will then understand how to create an all in one device worth handing over your left nut for. And for you users who abhore the iPhone because it’s not as business friendly, I might agree with you if I had to use it for that purpose. What I could see in the future, are two sets or versions of software. One for layman users like myself, and another tailored more for a business/work environment. They would only need to augment/change a few applications, to make it much more practical for the office environment.

    Cheers

  • Jan

    I figure that in the end it doesn’t really matter much. SOMEONE is going to get your 400$ (+) and whether or not you prefer a fake keyboard versus a real one, is so subjective, it can hardly be used as a general point of contention. The software I have come to love, due to Apple’s user friendly approach, is probably the main selling point of the device. I personally use my phone mostly for listening to music, or scheduling things much like I might with an ipod touch. The benefit is that I don’t have to carry another device in my pants pocket.

    Bottom Line: Let’s see Palm, or BB come out with a half decent music player, to stand up to the iPod first, and THEN tackle the phone industry. Perhaps they will then understand how to create an all in one device worth handing over your left nut for. And for you users who abhore the iPhone because it’s not as business friendly, I might agree with you if I had to use it for that purpose. What I could see in the future, are two sets or versions of software. One for layman users like myself, and another tailored more for a business/work environment. They would only need to augment/change a few applications, to make it much more practical for the office environment.

    Cheers

  • Rose

    If you use iCal you CAN have an alert for a calendar event every 4th Wednesday. I have one set up for every 12th Tuesday and it works just fine!

  • Rose

    If you use iCal you CAN have an alert for a calendar event every 4th Wednesday. I have one set up for every 12th Tuesday and it works just fine!

  • Rose

    If you use iCal you CAN have an alert for a calendar event every 4th Wednesday. I have one set up for every 12th Tuesday and it works just fine!

  • Rose

    If you use iCal you CAN have an alert for a calendar event every 4th Wednesday. I have one set up for every 12th Tuesday and it works just fine!

  • Rose

    If you use iCal you CAN have an alert for a calendar event every 4th Wednesday. I have one set up for every 12th Tuesday and it works just fine!

  • bringer666

    Thanks for the suggestion Rose but I’m a PC user so I don’t have iCal. As a matter of fact because I am using Vista, I can’t even sync my calendar at all.

  • bringer666

    Thanks for the suggestion Rose but I’m a PC user so I don’t have iCal. As a matter of fact because I am using Vista, I can’t even sync my calendar at all.

  • bringer666

    Thanks for the suggestion Rose but I’m a PC user so I don’t have iCal. As a matter of fact because I am using Vista, I can’t even sync my calendar at all.

  • bringer666

    Thanks for the suggestion Rose but I’m a PC user so I don’t have iCal. As a matter of fact because I am using Vista, I can’t even sync my calendar at all.

  • bringer666

    Thanks for the suggestion Rose but I’m a PC user so I don’t have iCal. As a matter of fact because I am using Vista, I can’t even sync my calendar at all.

  • Teen Wolf

    I can see palm trying some trade in discount to try and steal iphone users. Hand over your iPhone and get a Pre hella cheap.

  • Teen Wolf

    I can see palm trying some trade in discount to try and steal iphone users. Hand over your iPhone and get a Pre hella cheap.

  • Teen Wolf

    I can see palm trying some trade in discount to try and steal iphone users. Hand over your iPhone and get a Pre hella cheap.

  • Teen Wolf

    I can see palm trying some trade in discount to try and steal iphone users. Hand over your iPhone and get a Pre hella cheap.

  • Teen Wolf

    I can see palm trying some trade in discount to try and steal iphone users. Hand over your iPhone and get a Pre hella cheap.

  • Teen Wolf

    I can see palm trying some trade in discount to try and steal iphone users. Hand over your iPhone and get a Pre hella cheap.

  • Anonymous

    My first smartphone was a Treo 650; until it died I loved my Treo. I will admit my iPhone was definitely a step up I have come to the conclusion that I tolerate the touch keyboard in exchange for the apps I can use.

    If Pre apps become as popular and numerous as iPhone apps… I would definitely think about it.

    Thing is so far I’ve only heard that Sprint is going to carry it. Sprint is CDMA. Bell and Telus are the CDMA; Telus and I don’t get along too well and I’m trying to stay away from Bell as much as I can. So unless Palm comes out with a GSM version of it, that will limit it’s desirability.

  • Anonymous

    My first smartphone was a Treo 650; until it died I loved my Treo. I will admit my iPhone was definitely a step up I have come to the conclusion that I tolerate the touch keyboard in exchange for the apps I can use.

    If Pre apps become as popular and numerous as iPhone apps… I would definitely think about it.

    Thing is so far I’ve only heard that Sprint is going to carry it. Sprint is CDMA. Bell and Telus are the CDMA; Telus and I don’t get along too well and I’m trying to stay away from Bell as much as I can. So unless Palm comes out with a GSM version of it, that will limit it’s desirability.

  • Anonymous

    My first smartphone was a Treo 650; until it died I loved my Treo. I will admit my iPhone was definitely a step up I have come to the conclusion that I tolerate the touch keyboard in exchange for the apps I can use.

    If Pre apps become as popular and numerous as iPhone apps… I would definitely think about it.

    Thing is so far I’ve only heard that Sprint is going to carry it. Sprint is CDMA. Bell and Telus are the CDMA; Telus and I don’t get along too well and I’m trying to stay away from Bell as much as I can. So unless Palm comes out with a GSM version of it, that will limit it’s desirability.

  • Joost

    My first smartphone was a Treo 650; until it died I loved my Treo. I will admit my iPhone was definitely a step up I have come to the conclusion that I tolerate the touch keyboard in exchange for the apps I can use.

    If Pre apps become as popular and numerous as iPhone apps… I would definitely think about it.

    Thing is so far I’ve only heard that Sprint is going to carry it. Sprint is CDMA. Bell and Telus are the CDMA; Telus and I don’t get along too well and I’m trying to stay away from Bell as much as I can. So unless Palm comes out with a GSM version of it, that will limit it’s desirability.

  • mark

    Just watched the video of it being demoed on youtube, and I must say, the OS is better than iphone. Real multitasking going on and it seems to flow faster than the iphone. The hardware is also better with the 3 megapixel camera. Apple needs to step it up with their next release because this is better than an iphone 3g.

  • mark

    Just watched the video of it being demoed on youtube, and I must say, the OS is better than iphone. Real multitasking going on and it seems to flow faster than the iphone. The hardware is also better with the 3 megapixel camera. Apple needs to step it up with their next release because this is better than an iphone 3g.

  • mark

    Just watched the video of it being demoed on youtube, and I must say, the OS is better than iphone. Real multitasking going on and it seems to flow faster than the iphone. The hardware is also better with the 3 megapixel camera. Apple needs to step it up with their next release because this is better than an iphone 3g.

  • Brian

    I agree. I was impressed by the abilities of the Pre by the initial videos I saw of it. I could tell it ran so smooth and had some features I wish my iPhone had, such as the background process. Overall, I was more attracted to the Pre than any other phone besides my iPhone. If I were not tied down under a contract, I would consider the Pre as a secondary phone. Big thing for me would have to be the WiFi access, because I’m too poor to afford a data plan =P. I can’t quite remember if the Pre comes with WiFi.

  • Brian

    I agree. I was impressed by the abilities of the Pre by the initial videos I saw of it. I could tell it ran so smooth and had some features I wish my iPhone had, such as the background process. Overall, I was more attracted to the Pre than any other phone besides my iPhone. If I were not tied down under a contract, I would consider the Pre as a secondary phone. Big thing for me would have to be the WiFi access, because I’m too poor to afford a data plan =P. I can’t quite remember if the Pre comes with WiFi.

  • Brian

    I agree. I was impressed by the abilities of the Pre by the initial videos I saw of it. I could tell it ran so smooth and had some features I wish my iPhone had, such as the background process. Overall, I was more attracted to the Pre than any other phone besides my iPhone. If I were not tied down under a contract, I would consider the Pre as a secondary phone. Big thing for me would have to be the WiFi access, because I’m too poor to afford a data plan =P. I can’t quite remember if the Pre comes with WiFi.

  • Brian

    I agree. I was impressed by the abilities of the Pre by the initial videos I saw of it. I could tell it ran so smooth and had some features I wish my iPhone had, such as the background process. Overall, I was more attracted to the Pre than any other phone besides my iPhone. If I were not tied down under a contract, I would consider the Pre as a secondary phone. Big thing for me would have to be the WiFi access, because I’m too poor to afford a data plan =P. I can’t quite remember if the Pre comes with WiFi.

  • Joshua from Endgadget was on Jimmy Fallon last night, previewing the Palm Pre. Chack it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHP6prTiwag

  • Joshua from Endgadget was on Jimmy Fallon last night, previewing the Palm Pre. Chack it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHP6prTiwag

  • Joshua from Endgadget was on Jimmy Fallon last night, previewing the Palm Pre. Chack it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHP6prTiwag

  • SimonM

    No way i’m going to to substitute my iPhone 3G for the Palm Pre….. I’m waiting for the Nokia N97. =D I think I’m done with the iPhone.

  • SimonM

    No way i’m going to to substitute my iPhone 3G for the Palm Pre….. I’m waiting for the Nokia N97. =D I think I’m done with the iPhone.

  • SimonM

    No way i’m going to to substitute my iPhone 3G for the Palm Pre….. I’m waiting for the Nokia N97. =D I think I’m done with the iPhone.

  • SimonM

    No way i’m going to to substitute my iPhone 3G for the Palm Pre….. I’m waiting for the Nokia N97. =D I think I’m done with the iPhone.

  • SimonM

    No way i’m going to to substitute my iPhone 3G for the Palm Pre….. I’m waiting for the Nokia N97. =D I think I’m done with the iPhone.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it does… mind you no smartphone worth it’s name won’t come with wifi anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it does… mind you no smartphone worth it’s name won’t come with wifi anymore.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it does… mind you no smartphone worth it’s name won’t come with wifi anymore.

  • Joost

    I believe it does… mind you no smartphone worth it’s name won’t come with wifi anymore.

  • Andrew

    You might be able to use Outlook Express thats included with Microsoft Word/Excel,etc. I used to use that to sync my blackberry and now my iphone before switching to a mac. I don’t remember if you can set up events like that but I would be surprised if you couldn’t.

  • Andrew

    You might be able to use Outlook Express thats included with Microsoft Word/Excel,etc. I used to use that to sync my blackberry and now my iphone before switching to a mac. I don’t remember if you can set up events like that but I would be surprised if you couldn’t.

  • Andrew

    You might be able to use Outlook Express thats included with Microsoft Word/Excel,etc. I used to use that to sync my blackberry and now my iphone before switching to a mac. I don’t remember if you can set up events like that but I would be surprised if you couldn’t.

  • Andrew

    You might be able to use Outlook Express thats included with Microsoft Word/Excel,etc. I used to use that to sync my blackberry and now my iphone before switching to a mac. I don’t remember if you can set up events like that but I would be surprised if you couldn’t.

  • Andrew

    You might be able to use Outlook Express thats included with Microsoft Word/Excel,etc. I used to use that to sync my blackberry and now my iphone before switching to a mac. I don’t remember if you can set up events like that but I would be surprised if you couldn’t.

  • Andrew

    You might be able to use Outlook Express thats included with Microsoft Word/Excel,etc. I used to use that to sync my blackberry and now my iphone before switching to a mac. I don’t remember if you can set up events like that but I would be surprised if you couldn’t.

  • bringer666

    I’m sorry Andrew but I’m using Vista on my laptop and it does not come with Outlook Express. Vista has changed to something called “Windows Calendar” but iTunes does not sync with it. It will sync with full Outlook but that only comes in the Office suite and is too expensive for me.

  • bringer666

    I’m sorry Andrew but I’m using Vista on my laptop and it does not come with Outlook Express. Vista has changed to something called “Windows Calendar” but iTunes does not sync with it. It will sync with full Outlook but that only comes in the Office suite and is too expensive for me.

  • bringer666

    I’m sorry Andrew but I’m using Vista on my laptop and it does not come with Outlook Express. Vista has changed to something called “Windows Calendar” but iTunes does not sync with it. It will sync with full Outlook but that only comes in the Office suite and is too expensive for me.

  • bringer666

    I’m sorry Andrew but I’m using Vista on my laptop and it does not come with Outlook Express. Vista has changed to something called “Windows Calendar” but iTunes does not sync with it. It will sync with full Outlook but that only comes in the Office suite and is too expensive for me.

  • bringer666

    I’m sorry Andrew but I’m using Vista on my laptop and it does not come with Outlook Express. Vista has changed to something called “Windows Calendar” but iTunes does not sync with it. It will sync with full Outlook but that only comes in the Office suite and is too expensive for me.

  • RyanG

    NOOOOOOO. A larger phone with a smaller screen? A physical QWERTY? An interface/OS that hasn’t been tested as much as that on the iPhone? No App store/itunes reliability? A company that was near bankrupt a number of years ago? Sure the device looks really nice but all these questions tell me that it just can’t compete on a level that the iPhone does.

  • RyanG

    NOOOOOOO. A larger phone with a smaller screen? A physical QWERTY? An interface/OS that hasn’t been tested as much as that on the iPhone? No App store/itunes reliability? A company that was near bankrupt a number of years ago? Sure the device looks really nice but all these questions tell me that it just can’t compete on a level that the iPhone does.

  • RyanG

    NOOOOOOO. A larger phone with a smaller screen? A physical QWERTY? An interface/OS that hasn’t been tested as much as that on the iPhone? No App store/itunes reliability? A company that was near bankrupt a number of years ago? Sure the device looks really nice but all these questions tell me that it just can’t compete on a level that the iPhone does.

  • RyanG

    NOOOOOOO. A larger phone with a smaller screen? A physical QWERTY? An interface/OS that hasn’t been tested as much as that on the iPhone? No App store/itunes reliability? A company that was near bankrupt a number of years ago? Sure the device looks really nice but all these questions tell me that it just can’t compete on a level that the iPhone does.

  • RyanG

    NOOOOOOO. A larger phone with a smaller screen? A physical QWERTY? An interface/OS that hasn’t been tested as much as that on the iPhone? No App store/itunes reliability? A company that was near bankrupt a number of years ago? Sure the device looks really nice but all these questions tell me that it just can’t compete on a level that the iPhone does.

  • RyanG

    NOOOOOOO. A larger phone with a smaller screen? A physical QWERTY? An interface/OS that hasn’t been tested as much as that on the iPhone? No App store/itunes reliability? A company that was near bankrupt a number of years ago? Sure the device looks really nice but all these questions tell me that it just can’t compete on a level that the iPhone does.

  • Sly

    I have used 2 Palm PIMs and have found them to be substandard in every way except it’s solidity. Functionality wise it was a nightmare. Integration with my Mac was a nightmare. Palm was never much help once the devices were bought. I had perchased a wifi card to my last device that wouldn’t work and got NO help whatsoever from Palm. So NO NIET NEIN I will NOT be buying into another nightmare.
    P. S. I love my iPone and WILL be getting an upgrade when possible.

    Sly

  • Sly

    I have used 2 Palm PIMs and have found them to be substandard in every way except it’s solidity. Functionality wise it was a nightmare. Integration with my Mac was a nightmare. Palm was never much help once the devices were bought. I had perchased a wifi card to my last device that wouldn’t work and got NO help whatsoever from Palm. So NO NIET NEIN I will NOT be buying into another nightmare.
    P. S. I love my iPone and WILL be getting an upgrade when possible.

    Sly

  • Sly

    I have used 2 Palm PIMs and have found them to be substandard in every way except it’s solidity. Functionality wise it was a nightmare. Integration with my Mac was a nightmare. Palm was never much help once the devices were bought. I had perchased a wifi card to my last device that wouldn’t work and got NO help whatsoever from Palm. So NO NIET NEIN I will NOT be buying into another nightmare.
    P. S. I love my iPone and WILL be getting an upgrade when possible.

    Sly

  • Sly

    I have used 2 Palm PIMs and have found them to be substandard in every way except it’s solidity. Functionality wise it was a nightmare. Integration with my Mac was a nightmare. Palm was never much help once the devices were bought. I had perchased a wifi card to my last device that wouldn’t work and got NO help whatsoever from Palm. So NO NIET NEIN I will NOT be buying into another nightmare.
    P. S. I love my iPone and WILL be getting an upgrade when possible.

    Sly

  • Sly

    I have used 2 Palm PIMs and have found them to be substandard in every way except it’s solidity. Functionality wise it was a nightmare. Integration with my Mac was a nightmare. Palm was never much help once the devices were bought. I had perchased a wifi card to my last device that wouldn’t work and got NO help whatsoever from Palm. So NO NIET NEIN I will NOT be buying into another nightmare.
    P. S. I love my iPone and WILL be getting an upgrade when possible.

    Sly

  • Sly

    I have used 2 Palm PIMs and have found them to be substandard in every way except it’s solidity. Functionality wise it was a nightmare. Integration with my Mac was a nightmare. Palm was never much help once the devices were bought. I had perchased a wifi card to my last device that wouldn’t work and got NO help whatsoever from Palm. So NO NIET NEIN I will NOT be buying into another nightmare.
    P. S. I love my iPone and WILL be getting an upgrade when possible.

    Sly

  • Phoenix

    I’ll keep my iPhone 3G…..til the next iPhone comes out.
    iPhone OS 3.0 is adding about 100 new functions. Cut, Copy, Paste…MMS, Push Notifications, Spotlight Search, Landscape Keyboard in Mail, Messages and Notes, ability to send more than 1 pic, ect ect.
    Still no apps running in the background (would run down the battery too fast anyway).

    A step in the right direction for Apple….finally.
    I’m sure the Pre will be a nice phone and some people will like it for it’s keyboard. Maybe a iPhone with a slideout keyboard would be something Apple should consider on the future (I don’t want one myself though! I love the Virtual one). Or the ability to use a Bluetooth Keyboard would make some people happier.

  • Phoenix

    I’ll keep my iPhone 3G…..til the next iPhone comes out.
    iPhone OS 3.0 is adding about 100 new functions. Cut, Copy, Paste…MMS, Push Notifications, Spotlight Search, Landscape Keyboard in Mail, Messages and Notes, ability to send more than 1 pic, ect ect.
    Still no apps running in the background (would run down the battery too fast anyway).

    A step in the right direction for Apple….finally.
    I’m sure the Pre will be a nice phone and some people will like it for it’s keyboard. Maybe a iPhone with a slideout keyboard would be something Apple should consider on the future (I don’t want one myself though! I love the Virtual one). Or the ability to use a Bluetooth Keyboard would make some people happier.

  • Phoenix

    I’ll keep my iPhone 3G…..til the next iPhone comes out.
    iPhone OS 3.0 is adding about 100 new functions. Cut, Copy, Paste…MMS, Push Notifications, Spotlight Search, Landscape Keyboard in Mail, Messages and Notes, ability to send more than 1 pic, ect ect.
    Still no apps running in the background (would run down the battery too fast anyway).

    A step in the right direction for Apple….finally.
    I’m sure the Pre will be a nice phone and some people will like it for it’s keyboard. Maybe a iPhone with a slideout keyboard would be something Apple should consider on the future (I don’t want one myself though! I love the Virtual one). Or the ability to use a Bluetooth Keyboard would make some people happier.

  • Phoenix

    I’ll keep my iPhone 3G…..til the next iPhone comes out.
    iPhone OS 3.0 is adding about 100 new functions. Cut, Copy, Paste…MMS, Push Notifications, Spotlight Search, Landscape Keyboard in Mail, Messages and Notes, ability to send more than 1 pic, ect ect.
    Still no apps running in the background (would run down the battery too fast anyway).

    A step in the right direction for Apple….finally.
    I’m sure the Pre will be a nice phone and some people will like it for it’s keyboard. Maybe a iPhone with a slideout keyboard would be something Apple should consider on the future (I don’t want one myself though! I love the Virtual one). Or the ability to use a Bluetooth Keyboard would make some people happier.

  • Glac

    I’ve been using a combination of a Palm and cell phone for a number of years. (First a Palm IIIxe then a T5.) It’s been cumbersome, for sure, to carry two devices, but there hasn’t been an all in one device that has quite what I need. Even the mighty iPhone is just a flashy gadget that I don’t need to spend cash on. The Treo line would probably have done okay, for me, but I would have sorely missed the large screen of the T5. (Heck, a whole Treo is smaller than the T5’s screen!)

    I kept wondering… why hasn’t Palm come out with something ‘like’ the iPhone? I’d buy that. So now the Pre comes out and I’m just waiting to find out who will carry it here in Canada.

    This doesn’t answer the question of, would I switch as I never went with the iPhone anyways. However, I will, most likely, end up with a Pre and finally start carrying one less gadget.

    I have, however, enjoyed reading some of the comments that have come from this question. The more interesting responses came from those people who were not Mac Fanboys. (We know that Mac Fanboys will never switch to anything that’s not Apple regardless of the scenerio in front of them.)

  • Glac

    I’ve been using a combination of a Palm and cell phone for a number of years. (First a Palm IIIxe then a T5.) It’s been cumbersome, for sure, to carry two devices, but there hasn’t been an all in one device that has quite what I need. Even the mighty iPhone is just a flashy gadget that I don’t need to spend cash on. The Treo line would probably have done okay, for me, but I would have sorely missed the large screen of the T5. (Heck, a whole Treo is smaller than the T5’s screen!)

    I kept wondering… why hasn’t Palm come out with something ‘like’ the iPhone? I’d buy that. So now the Pre comes out and I’m just waiting to find out who will carry it here in Canada.

    This doesn’t answer the question of, would I switch as I never went with the iPhone anyways. However, I will, most likely, end up with a Pre and finally start carrying one less gadget.

    I have, however, enjoyed reading some of the comments that have come from this question. The more interesting responses came from those people who were not Mac Fanboys. (We know that Mac Fanboys will never switch to anything that’s not Apple regardless of the scenerio in front of them.)

  • Glac

    I’ve been using a combination of a Palm and cell phone for a number of years. (First a Palm IIIxe then a T5.) It’s been cumbersome, for sure, to carry two devices, but there hasn’t been an all in one device that has quite what I need. Even the mighty iPhone is just a flashy gadget that I don’t need to spend cash on. The Treo line would probably have done okay, for me, but I would have sorely missed the large screen of the T5. (Heck, a whole Treo is smaller than the T5’s screen!)

    I kept wondering… why hasn’t Palm come out with something ‘like’ the iPhone? I’d buy that. So now the Pre comes out and I’m just waiting to find out who will carry it here in Canada.

    This doesn’t answer the question of, would I switch as I never went with the iPhone anyways. However, I will, most likely, end up with a Pre and finally start carrying one less gadget.

    I have, however, enjoyed reading some of the comments that have come from this question. The more interesting responses came from those people who were not Mac Fanboys. (We know that Mac Fanboys will never switch to anything that’s not Apple regardless of the scenerio in front of them.)

  • Glac

    I’ve been using a combination of a Palm and cell phone for a number of years. (First a Palm IIIxe then a T5.) It’s been cumbersome, for sure, to carry two devices, but there hasn’t been an all in one device that has quite what I need. Even the mighty iPhone is just a flashy gadget that I don’t need to spend cash on. The Treo line would probably have done okay, for me, but I would have sorely missed the large screen of the T5. (Heck, a whole Treo is smaller than the T5’s screen!)

    I kept wondering… why hasn’t Palm come out with something ‘like’ the iPhone? I’d buy that. So now the Pre comes out and I’m just waiting to find out who will carry it here in Canada.

    This doesn’t answer the question of, would I switch as I never went with the iPhone anyways. However, I will, most likely, end up with a Pre and finally start carrying one less gadget.

    I have, however, enjoyed reading some of the comments that have come from this question. The more interesting responses came from those people who were not Mac Fanboys. (We know that Mac Fanboys will never switch to anything that’s not Apple regardless of the scenerio in front of them.)

  • Santoku

    In our household, my wifes son has an iPhone 3G, and all the kids have iPod Touch’s, so I am quite familiar with how they feel, look and work. While I have seemingly been salivating for an iPhone since they were available in Canada, I have been reluctant to give up my “ancient” Palm Treo 650, and am certainly considering the Pre as my next smartphone.

    Here is why. I despise iTunes software with a passion, and resent having to use it in order to syncronize the device with the computer. Considering how sleek and quick most Apple software usually is, I find iTunes to be slow and bloated. I also use Microsoft Outlook for most of my contacts and calendar entries and have heard mixed reviews about iTunes syncronization compatibility. Microsoft Office compatibility is a priority for me. As well, certain corporate and government IT systems do not necessarily want to allow iTunes software to run in those environments unless iPhones themselves have been adopted as the standard.

    Secondly, I do value a QWERTY keyboard that I can access with one hand when I so choose rather than being forced to only deal with the on-screen virtual keyboard. While my fingers are not dainty, I find I am quite a bit more accurate with the Treo keyboard than I am on the iPhone or Touch on-screen keyboard. I also like the tactile feel of an actual keypad. While the Treo is dated, I like the ready one-handed access to both the screen and the keypad. I see the Pre offering the best of both worlds in this regard.

    Both will be adequate phones. The iPhone will likely never be eclipsed as far as multimedia and games, however I think that the Pre will surpass the iPhone in business and organizational capacities. As such, for anything beyond personal use and enjoyment, I think that the Pre may be the way to go.

    The ultimate disclaimer to this though is that cell/smart phones are a lot like musical instruments. What feels and sounds good to one person is the worst junk to another. It’s all speculation until you atually pick the thing up and use it for yourself to see if it functions the way you want it too, and if it “resonates” with who you are. Cheers !

  • Santoku

    In our household, my wifes son has an iPhone 3G, and all the kids have iPod Touch’s, so I am quite familiar with how they feel, look and work. While I have seemingly been salivating for an iPhone since they were available in Canada, I have been reluctant to give up my “ancient” Palm Treo 650, and am certainly considering the Pre as my next smartphone.

    Here is why. I despise iTunes software with a passion, and resent having to use it in order to syncronize the device with the computer. Considering how sleek and quick most Apple software usually is, I find iTunes to be slow and bloated. I also use Microsoft Outlook for most of my contacts and calendar entries and have heard mixed reviews about iTunes syncronization compatibility. Microsoft Office compatibility is a priority for me. As well, certain corporate and government IT systems do not necessarily want to allow iTunes software to run in those environments unless iPhones themselves have been adopted as the standard.

    Secondly, I do value a QWERTY keyboard that I can access with one hand when I so choose rather than being forced to only deal with the on-screen virtual keyboard. While my fingers are not dainty, I find I am quite a bit more accurate with the Treo keyboard than I am on the iPhone or Touch on-screen keyboard. I also like the tactile feel of an actual keypad. While the Treo is dated, I like the ready one-handed access to both the screen and the keypad. I see the Pre offering the best of both worlds in this regard.

    Both will be adequate phones. The iPhone will likely never be eclipsed as far as multimedia and games, however I think that the Pre will surpass the iPhone in business and organizational capacities. As such, for anything beyond personal use and enjoyment, I think that the Pre may be the way to go.

    The ultimate disclaimer to this though is that cell/smart phones are a lot like musical instruments. What feels and sounds good to one person is the worst junk to another. It’s all speculation until you atually pick the thing up and use it for yourself to see if it functions the way you want it too, and if it “resonates” with who you are. Cheers !

  • Santoku

    In our household, my wifes son has an iPhone 3G, and all the kids have iPod Touch’s, so I am quite familiar with how they feel, look and work. While I have seemingly been salivating for an iPhone since they were available in Canada, I have been reluctant to give up my “ancient” Palm Treo 650, and am certainly considering the Pre as my next smartphone.

    Here is why. I despise iTunes software with a passion, and resent having to use it in order to syncronize the device with the computer. Considering how sleek and quick most Apple software usually is, I find iTunes to be slow and bloated. I also use Microsoft Outlook for most of my contacts and calendar entries and have heard mixed reviews about iTunes syncronization compatibility. Microsoft Office compatibility is a priority for me. As well, certain corporate and government IT systems do not necessarily want to allow iTunes software to run in those environments unless iPhones themselves have been adopted as the standard.

    Secondly, I do value a QWERTY keyboard that I can access with one hand when I so choose rather than being forced to only deal with the on-screen virtual keyboard. While my fingers are not dainty, I find I am quite a bit more accurate with the Treo keyboard than I am on the iPhone or Touch on-screen keyboard. I also like the tactile feel of an actual keypad. While the Treo is dated, I like the ready one-handed access to both the screen and the keypad. I see the Pre offering the best of both worlds in this regard.

    Both will be adequate phones. The iPhone will likely never be eclipsed as far as multimedia and games, however I think that the Pre will surpass the iPhone in business and organizational capacities. As such, for anything beyond personal use and enjoyment, I think that the Pre may be the way to go.

    The ultimate disclaimer to this though is that cell/smart phones are a lot like musical instruments. What feels and sounds good to one person is the worst junk to another. It’s all speculation until you atually pick the thing up and use it for yourself to see if it functions the way you want it too, and if it “resonates” with who you are. Cheers !