My Rogers iPhone 3G Battery Life Issue…Resolved!

The Rogers iPhone 3G Battery Life Saga…

Remember when I posted about how to increase your iPhone 3G battery life? Well, part of my reason for writing about that was because my iPhone 3G was suffering from some dismal battery life, right out of the box. I even calibrated the battery and it did nothing.

I also wrote about my saga in getting a replacement iPhone 3G from Rogers. What I did was dial 611 on my iPhone to call Rogers. I then was forwarded to the “iPhone Support Team”, where my situation was diagnosed over the phone (I could hear the CSR flipping through pages of a manual, LOL). We agreed a replacement was to be sent out right away. Awesome right? Think again!

During a follow up call to check up on my order, the order itself had not bee fully “submitted”. The original CSR failed badly in completing the order of my replacement. Luckily I had a very helpful CSR (they are out there, believe it or not) alleviate the situation and place my order for real. The iPhone arrived yesterday via the UPS and I was off to do some immediate testing.

Pictures of my “New” iPhone 3G from Rogers

I was assured that I was going to be receiving a brand new iPhone 3G to replace my unit. What arrived has made me doubt my unit as “new”. Within the box there return shipping labels were included along with a PAPER CLIP in a small zip lock bag. The image looked like it was from the first gen iPhone days. I have 15 days to send my original iPhone 3G back to Rogers, or else they will charge $630 to my account!

For starters, the box the iPhone was in was tiny. It was about 1 inch thick and looked like a first generation iPhone box. Was my iPhone 3G refurbished?? The plastic was still on the phone itself, but did notice a small scuff mark on the back of the phone (maybe this is foreshadowing those mysterious cracks that people are talking about online)! !$*%@!! Check out these pictures to see what I mean (The screen protector is slightly off center because I had removed part of it):

The 2nd iPhone 3G Battery Test Results

My initial battery life would only provide about 3.5 hours of usage and 6 hours of standby before I’d see the 20% battery remaining pop up. However I noticed the battery life improved as the week progressed. By the end of the week one test resulted in 4.5 hours of usage and 14 hours of standby before dying a slow death–and that was with EDGE used to save battery too.

The battery on the “new” replacement iPhone 3G showed that it was fully charged right out of the box. However, I decided to give it a quick 1 hour charge to boost it a bit, then put it right to the test. The improved battery life I soon discovered shocked me completely. The battery lasted 6 hours and 4 mins of usage (3G was enabled the ENTIRE time, WiFi, GPS, email was set to fetch every 15 mins, some YouTube, lots of Safari) and 22 hours and 20 minutes of standby!

Here’s a photo diary of my usage/standby times throughout the test….

This is a massive improvement, considering I was unable to even last more than a day on standby with 3G enabled on the first iPhone 3G! Once I get a full charge plus the “trickle” charge, I guarantee I’m going to get even higher numbers than this!

Conclusion: Should I call Rogers to Ask for a Replacement iPhone 3G?

If you are suffering from pathetic battery life on your iPhone 3G, I would strongly consider giving Rogers a call and voicing your concerns. Don’t be afraid. We’ve all put some good money into this phone plus most of us have signed a 3 year contract. It’d be nice to have our 3G batteries working strong from the start, as eventually over time the battery will lose its charge. There is no harm in calling. Tell them your story and ask for a replacement. I would’ve gotten mine sooner if the order was probably placed.

So there you have it. That’s my battery story and I’m sticking to it. Even though there’s a tiny scuff on the back, I’m going to keep it. The battery life is much improved compared to my original unit. Now all I gotta do is slap on an invisibleSHIELD to protect my iPhone 3G (enter my contest!) and I’ll be a happy camper. šŸ™‚

Anyone else have some iPhone 3G battery stories to share? How long have you been able to milk your battery life for? Numbers people, let’s hear numbers!

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  • LoWd0Wn

    I can’t believe you are going to accept that. I wouldn’t for what you are going to be paying for that phone.It should be pristine out of the box and a good battery life, hehe.
    Call up Rogers and talk to them about it. Maybe you will get that good CSR again. The little scuff will bug you always, about it.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I can’t believe you are going to accept that. I wouldn’t for what you are going to be paying for that phone.It should be pristine out of the box and a good battery life, hehe.
    Call up Rogers and talk to them about it. Maybe you will get that good CSR again. The little scuff will bug you always, about it.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I can’t believe you are going to accept that. I wouldn’t for what you are going to be paying for that phone.It should be pristine out of the box and a good battery life, hehe.
    Call up Rogers and talk to them about it. Maybe you will get that good CSR again. The little scuff will bug you always, about it.

  • LoWd0Wn

    I can’t believe you are going to accept that. I wouldn’t for what you are going to be paying for that phone.It should be pristine out of the box and a good battery life, hehe.
    Call up Rogers and talk to them about it. Maybe you will get that good CSR again. The little scuff will bug you always, about it.

  • Matt

    Very interesting iPhone Fan. I agree that the battery life somehow gets better over time, but I’ve also found that the battery still isn’t great. I should probably make some type of iPhone battery life journal. There isn’t any extended warranty as far as I know, either through Apple or Rogers.

    I usually charge every night, which I know is bad for the battery’s overall lifespan. During a usual day I drain it to somewhere around 50% or 30% while browsing about 5 – 10 minutes on Wi-Fi, 30 minutes on EDGE, listening to about an hour of 320kbs music and having pushed e-mails. I rarely use it as a phone. During the first few days when I was using 3G instead of EDGE, I’d go home at the end of a work day with 20% left, which seemed awfully low.

    I know Apple will most likely tout the battery life as excellent in it’s class, but the pure fact that they didn’t solder it in makes me think that they are planning on having lots of replacements for refurbishment. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t come out with a battery upgrade program (for a “reasonable” fee $50 – $100).

    As for the cracking plastic backs, I bet they stand their ground that it isn’t part of warranty, however they might come out with a list of ways to prevent cracking (like how they dealt with the low battery life issue). As long as it doesn’t pose some safety issue, no recalls.

  • Matt

    Very interesting iPhone Fan. I agree that the battery life somehow gets better over time, but I’ve also found that the battery still isn’t great. I should probably make some type of iPhone battery life journal. There isn’t any extended warranty as far as I know, either through Apple or Rogers.

    I usually charge every night, which I know is bad for the battery’s overall lifespan. During a usual day I drain it to somewhere around 50% or 30% while browsing about 5 – 10 minutes on Wi-Fi, 30 minutes on EDGE, listening to about an hour of 320kbs music and having pushed e-mails. I rarely use it as a phone. During the first few days when I was using 3G instead of EDGE, I’d go home at the end of a work day with 20% left, which seemed awfully low.

    I know Apple will most likely tout the battery life as excellent in it’s class, but the pure fact that they didn’t solder it in makes me think that they are planning on having lots of replacements for refurbishment. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t come out with a battery upgrade program (for a “reasonable” fee $50 – $100).

    As for the cracking plastic backs, I bet they stand their ground that it isn’t part of warranty, however they might come out with a list of ways to prevent cracking (like how they dealt with the low battery life issue). As long as it doesn’t pose some safety issue, no recalls.

  • Matt

    Very interesting iPhone Fan. I agree that the battery life somehow gets better over time, but I’ve also found that the battery still isn’t great. I should probably make some type of iPhone battery life journal. There isn’t any extended warranty as far as I know, either through Apple or Rogers.

    I usually charge every night, which I know is bad for the battery’s overall lifespan. During a usual day I drain it to somewhere around 50% or 30% while browsing about 5 – 10 minutes on Wi-Fi, 30 minutes on EDGE, listening to about an hour of 320kbs music and having pushed e-mails. I rarely use it as a phone. During the first few days when I was using 3G instead of EDGE, I’d go home at the end of a work day with 20% left, which seemed awfully low.

    I know Apple will most likely tout the battery life as excellent in it’s class, but the pure fact that they didn’t solder it in makes me think that they are planning on having lots of replacements for refurbishment. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t come out with a battery upgrade program (for a “reasonable” fee $50 – $100).

    As for the cracking plastic backs, I bet they stand their ground that it isn’t part of warranty, however they might come out with a list of ways to prevent cracking (like how they dealt with the low battery life issue). As long as it doesn’t pose some safety issue, no recalls.

  • Matt

    Very interesting iPhone Fan. I agree that the battery life somehow gets better over time, but I’ve also found that the battery still isn’t great. I should probably make some type of iPhone battery life journal. There isn’t any extended warranty as far as I know, either through Apple or Rogers.

    I usually charge every night, which I know is bad for the battery’s overall lifespan. During a usual day I drain it to somewhere around 50% or 30% while browsing about 5 – 10 minutes on Wi-Fi, 30 minutes on EDGE, listening to about an hour of 320kbs music and having pushed e-mails. I rarely use it as a phone. During the first few days when I was using 3G instead of EDGE, I’d go home at the end of a work day with 20% left, which seemed awfully low.

    I know Apple will most likely tout the battery life as excellent in it’s class, but the pure fact that they didn’t solder it in makes me think that they are planning on having lots of replacements for refurbishment. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t come out with a battery upgrade program (for a “reasonable” fee $50 – $100).

    As for the cracking plastic backs, I bet they stand their ground that it isn’t part of warranty, however they might come out with a list of ways to prevent cracking (like how they dealt with the low battery life issue). As long as it doesn’t pose some safety issue, no recalls.

  • Drew204

    I am so happy that I didn’t upgrade my first gen. No 3year contract, no plastic body to crack, no Rogers CSR’s to deal with and great battery life.

  • Drew204

    I am so happy that I didn’t upgrade my first gen. No 3year contract, no plastic body to crack, no Rogers CSR’s to deal with and great battery life.

  • Drew204

    I am so happy that I didn’t upgrade my first gen. No 3year contract, no plastic body to crack, no Rogers CSR’s to deal with and great battery life.

  • Drew204

    I am so happy that I didn’t upgrade my first gen. No 3year contract, no plastic body to crack, no Rogers CSR’s to deal with and great battery life.

  • Leopod

    i asked for a replacement for the 3G because of a small crack near the volume button. Fido CSR warned me the returned phone could be refurb. I didn’t want to accept this, i paid for a new, working, uncracked phone, so this is the way i should have it. Spoke to a supervisor, nothing to do, their policies state my returned iphone could be refurb or new, so she credited me a full month of 75$ plus taxes for me to accept their deal. In the end, i think my returned 3G was new because I didn’t have anything like iphoneFan’s returned phone. Although i’m still unhappy about the finishing touch between bezel and plastic (i can feel a slight edge on the sides), i think i’ll keep this one. As for the battery, i’m at 4h usage and 18h standby, using Edge (although enabling half an hour of 3G, and using half an hour of GPS).

  • Leopod

    i asked for a replacement for the 3G because of a small crack near the volume button. Fido CSR warned me the returned phone could be refurb. I didn’t want to accept this, i paid for a new, working, uncracked phone, so this is the way i should have it. Spoke to a supervisor, nothing to do, their policies state my returned iphone could be refurb or new, so she credited me a full month of 75$ plus taxes for me to accept their deal. In the end, i think my returned 3G was new because I didn’t have anything like iphoneFan’s returned phone. Although i’m still unhappy about the finishing touch between bezel and plastic (i can feel a slight edge on the sides), i think i’ll keep this one. As for the battery, i’m at 4h usage and 18h standby, using Edge (although enabling half an hour of 3G, and using half an hour of GPS).

  • Leopod

    i asked for a replacement for the 3G because of a small crack near the volume button. Fido CSR warned me the returned phone could be refurb. I didn’t want to accept this, i paid for a new, working, uncracked phone, so this is the way i should have it. Spoke to a supervisor, nothing to do, their policies state my returned iphone could be refurb or new, so she credited me a full month of 75$ plus taxes for me to accept their deal. In the end, i think my returned 3G was new because I didn’t have anything like iphoneFan’s returned phone. Although i’m still unhappy about the finishing touch between bezel and plastic (i can feel a slight edge on the sides), i think i’ll keep this one. As for the battery, i’m at 4h usage and 18h standby, using Edge (although enabling half an hour of 3G, and using half an hour of GPS).

  • Leopod

    i asked for a replacement for the 3G because of a small crack near the volume button. Fido CSR warned me the returned phone could be refurb. I didn’t want to accept this, i paid for a new, working, uncracked phone, so this is the way i should have it. Spoke to a supervisor, nothing to do, their policies state my returned iphone could be refurb or new, so she credited me a full month of 75$ plus taxes for me to accept their deal. In the end, i think my returned 3G was new because I didn’t have anything like iphoneFan’s returned phone. Although i’m still unhappy about the finishing touch between bezel and plastic (i can feel a slight edge on the sides), i think i’ll keep this one. As for the battery, i’m at 4h usage and 18h standby, using Edge (although enabling half an hour of 3G, and using half an hour of GPS).

  • Duc

    Yea I’ve notice with Edge on it will save you more battery…my 3G Iphone is experiencing that as well…with identical standby numbers as Iphone Fan. My phone lasted almost 2.5 days until the 20% low battery indicate shows up. I just have almost everything off like 3G, Location services, fetch data, BT…I only use Wifi for safari, & email when I am at home and then put the phone on standby/sleep if not in use.
    So Iphone Fan, if you don’t return your original iphone and they charge you $630…you get to keep the orginal iphone..right?

    Duc

  • Duc

    Yea I’ve notice with Edge on it will save you more battery…my 3G Iphone is experiencing that as well…with identical standby numbers as Iphone Fan. My phone lasted almost 2.5 days until the 20% low battery indicate shows up. I just have almost everything off like 3G, Location services, fetch data, BT…I only use Wifi for safari, & email when I am at home and then put the phone on standby/sleep if not in use.
    So Iphone Fan, if you don’t return your original iphone and they charge you $630…you get to keep the orginal iphone..right?

    Duc

  • Duc

    Yea I’ve notice with Edge on it will save you more battery…my 3G Iphone is experiencing that as well…with identical standby numbers as Iphone Fan. My phone lasted almost 2.5 days until the 20% low battery indicate shows up. I just have almost everything off like 3G, Location services, fetch data, BT…I only use Wifi for safari, & email when I am at home and then put the phone on standby/sleep if not in use.
    So Iphone Fan, if you don’t return your original iphone and they charge you $630…you get to keep the orginal iphone..right?

    Duc

  • will

    I have a strange I phone battery story…

    Last week after fully charging my my phone, I used it for 2 full days and the battery was still showing at full capacity i thought the battery was finally setting into what i was used to on my original iphone, but then suddenly it went from full to ZERO my phone died while i was on the road and couldn’t use it … luckily i found an ipod cable at my friends house and charged it through her laptop for the ride home

  • will

    I have a strange I phone battery story…

    Last week after fully charging my my phone, I used it for 2 full days and the battery was still showing at full capacity i thought the battery was finally setting into what i was used to on my original iphone, but then suddenly it went from full to ZERO my phone died while i was on the road and couldn’t use it … luckily i found an ipod cable at my friends house and charged it through her laptop for the ride home

  • will

    I have a strange I phone battery story…

    Last week after fully charging my my phone, I used it for 2 full days and the battery was still showing at full capacity i thought the battery was finally setting into what i was used to on my original iphone, but then suddenly it went from full to ZERO my phone died while i was on the road and couldn’t use it … luckily i found an ipod cable at my friends house and charged it through her laptop for the ride home

  • will

    I have also called for a replacement iPhone from rogers and am waiting for it… my phone has a physical defect. The black backing of the phone sticks up slightly over the top of the phone so the top edge of the phone is not flush and smooth like the edges… hopefully, my replacement phone will also have an improved batter life. I miss the battery life of my old iPhone 2.5 Days before having to think about charging again

  • will

    I have also called for a replacement iPhone from rogers and am waiting for it… my phone has a physical defect. The black backing of the phone sticks up slightly over the top of the phone so the top edge of the phone is not flush and smooth like the edges… hopefully, my replacement phone will also have an improved batter life. I miss the battery life of my old iPhone 2.5 Days before having to think about charging again

  • will

    I have also called for a replacement iPhone from rogers and am waiting for it… my phone has a physical defect. The black backing of the phone sticks up slightly over the top of the phone so the top edge of the phone is not flush and smooth like the edges… hopefully, my replacement phone will also have an improved batter life. I miss the battery life of my old iPhone 2.5 Days before having to think about charging again

  • iphonefan…how do you recrod your usage time…do the usage counter reset after every charge.

    That scuff sucks…maybe some damge during freight.

    Anyhow these iPhone 3G’s are supposed a creme de la creme product. And it seems that it’s having a lot of problems.

    My iPhone sucks battery life also. I anticipate learning how to keep track with the counter.

  • iphonefan…how do you recrod your usage time…do the usage counter reset after every charge.

    That scuff sucks…maybe some damge during freight.

    Anyhow these iPhone 3G’s are supposed a creme de la creme product. And it seems that it’s having a lot of problems.

    My iPhone sucks battery life also. I anticipate learning how to keep track with the counter.

  • iphonefan…how do you recrod your usage time…do the usage counter reset after every charge.

    That scuff sucks…maybe some damge during freight.

    Anyhow these iPhone 3G’s are supposed a creme de la creme product. And it seems that it’s having a lot of problems.

    My iPhone sucks battery life also. I anticipate learning how to keep track with the counter.

  • Ian

    When I got my iPhone, the right earpiece had a definite crackling sound, especially with loud music. I toyed with the idea of phoning Rogers, but my support history with them has never been good, so I decided to try calling Apple directly. All I had to do was describe the problem and give them the serial number to my iPhone. They shipped me a replacement set of headphones which arrived the next day, along with a prepaid return waybill to ship the broken ones back. I suspect they would probably deal with *all* iPhone warranty issues just as promptly – you may want to try dealing directly with Apple instead of with Rogers next time.

  • Ian

    When I got my iPhone, the right earpiece had a definite crackling sound, especially with loud music. I toyed with the idea of phoning Rogers, but my support history with them has never been good, so I decided to try calling Apple directly. All I had to do was describe the problem and give them the serial number to my iPhone. They shipped me a replacement set of headphones which arrived the next day, along with a prepaid return waybill to ship the broken ones back. I suspect they would probably deal with *all* iPhone warranty issues just as promptly – you may want to try dealing directly with Apple instead of with Rogers next time.

  • I think they sent you a refurb. My friend got refurb Blackberry Pearl in a similar box. As an alternative you can Apple to replace the battery or maybe you can get your buddies at irepair.ca to do it for you.

    I’ve been having battery issues as well. But I pretty much have charger every where I go.

  • I think they sent you a refurb. My friend got refurb Blackberry Pearl in a similar box. As an alternative you can Apple to replace the battery or maybe you can get your buddies at irepair.ca to do it for you.

    I’ve been having battery issues as well. But I pretty much have charger every where I go.

  • king1412

    I think it is a refurbished. When I had a Blackberry 8830, the replacement they sent me came in a generic brown box.

    Anyway, I too had problems with my iPhone 3G’s battery. Mine won’t charge at all. Did the restart, hard restart, restore etc. Rogers said they will replace it but I was concerned they will give me a refurbish iPhone so I told them to cancel the contract and I returned the iPhone. No cancellation fees because I was within the 15 days, 30 minutes, 2.5mb data limit. I then went into the Flagship Rogers Store in Toronto (they have 16GBs in stock) and bought a brand new iPhone 3G. Same plan same costs. Reason I did this is I don’t think I will be able to live with a suspected refurbished iPhone 3G for the length of the contract. I have to know that I get what I paid for. I signed up and paid for a brand new iPhone then I should get a brand new iPhone.

    New iPhone is working great by the way.

  • king1412

    I think it is a refurbished. When I had a Blackberry 8830, the replacement they sent me came in a generic brown box.

    Anyway, I too had problems with my iPhone 3G’s battery. Mine won’t charge at all. Did the restart, hard restart, restore etc. Rogers said they will replace it but I was concerned they will give me a refurbish iPhone so I told them to cancel the contract and I returned the iPhone. No cancellation fees because I was within the 15 days, 30 minutes, 2.5mb data limit. I then went into the Flagship Rogers Store in Toronto (they have 16GBs in stock) and bought a brand new iPhone 3G. Same plan same costs. Reason I did this is I don’t think I will be able to live with a suspected refurbished iPhone 3G for the length of the contract. I have to know that I get what I paid for. I signed up and paid for a brand new iPhone then I should get a brand new iPhone.

    New iPhone is working great by the way.

  • LoWd0Wn: Yeah, I know it’s quite sad I am going to accept this. I am just tired of wasting my breath dealing with Rogers CSR’s that give you the run around. They just forward you from dept. to dept….and they never offer any solutions! The moment you talk to them they just assume you’re in the wrong. You know what though, you’ve inspired me to make one more call and I’m going to see what I can swing. If I can get a brand new replacement I’m gonna do it, but it will require some tedious work…BRB!

    Matt: I used to charge my first gen every night too. The thing about my first 3G unit was that it couldn’t even last one day of usage.

    Drew: The new 3G is pretty cool on 3G and the unlimited data plan. I have no regrets, aside from signing on for 3 years, but what can we do about that? The data plan is awesome, so it pays off. šŸ™‚

    Duc: ahha, never thought about it that way. Anyone want to buy an iPhone 3G for $630? šŸ™‚

    Conrad: After a full charge, the moment I unplug the USB cable the usage timer starts keeping track.

    Ian: Thanks for that, I will try contacting Apple as well as a last resort.

    Thanks for the insight everyone. I’m on the phone right now with a Rogers iPhone Tech support…on hold…yet…again…!

  • LoWd0Wn: Yeah, I know it’s quite sad I am going to accept this. I am just tired of wasting my breath dealing with Rogers CSR’s that give you the run around. They just forward you from dept. to dept….and they never offer any solutions! The moment you talk to them they just assume you’re in the wrong. You know what though, you’ve inspired me to make one more call and I’m going to see what I can swing. If I can get a brand new replacement I’m gonna do it, but it will require some tedious work…BRB!

    Matt: I used to charge my first gen every night too. The thing about my first 3G unit was that it couldn’t even last one day of usage.

    Drew: The new 3G is pretty cool on 3G and the unlimited data plan. I have no regrets, aside from signing on for 3 years, but what can we do about that? The data plan is awesome, so it pays off. šŸ™‚

    Duc: ahha, never thought about it that way. Anyone want to buy an iPhone 3G for $630? šŸ™‚

    Conrad: After a full charge, the moment I unplug the USB cable the usage timer starts keeping track.

    Ian: Thanks for that, I will try contacting Apple as well as a last resort.

    Thanks for the insight everyone. I’m on the phone right now with a Rogers iPhone Tech support…on hold…yet…again…!

  • LoWd0Wn: Yeah, I know it’s quite sad I am going to accept this. I am just tired of wasting my breath dealing with Rogers CSR’s that give you the run around. They just forward you from dept. to dept….and they never offer any solutions! The moment you talk to them they just assume you’re in the wrong. You know what though, you’ve inspired me to make one more call and I’m going to see what I can swing. If I can get a brand new replacement I’m gonna do it, but it will require some tedious work…BRB!

    Matt: I used to charge my first gen every night too. The thing about my first 3G unit was that it couldn’t even last one day of usage.

    Drew: The new 3G is pretty cool on 3G and the unlimited data plan. I have no regrets, aside from signing on for 3 years, but what can we do about that? The data plan is awesome, so it pays off. šŸ™‚

    Duc: ahha, never thought about it that way. Anyone want to buy an iPhone 3G for $630? šŸ™‚

    Conrad: After a full charge, the moment I unplug the USB cable the usage timer starts keeping track.

    Ian: Thanks for that, I will try contacting Apple as well as a last resort.

    Thanks for the insight everyone. I’m on the phone right now with a Rogers iPhone Tech support…on hold…yet…again…!

  • Justin

    I would deal with Apple if there’s a problem then. Since I don’t like the idea of a refurbish model from Fido or Roger.

  • Justin

    I would deal with Apple if there’s a problem then. Since I don’t like the idea of a refurbish model from Fido or Roger.

  • Justin

    I would deal with Apple if there’s a problem then. Since I don’t like the idea of a refurbish model from Fido or Roger.

  • Shawn

    A little off topic, but when you guys got your 16GB iPhones on a 3 year term…did they charge you $299 or $349 saying they would give you a $50 credit to your account within in the next month or so? I fall under the latter of the two and was wondering if this is what they’re doing for everyone.

  • Shawn

    A little off topic, but when you guys got your 16GB iPhones on a 3 year term…did they charge you $299 or $349 saying they would give you a $50 credit to your account within in the next month or so? I fall under the latter of the two and was wondering if this is what they’re doing for everyone.

  • Shawn

    A little off topic, but when you guys got your 16GB iPhones on a 3 year term…did they charge you $299 or $349 saying they would give you a $50 credit to your account within in the next month or so? I fall under the latter of the two and was wondering if this is what they’re doing for everyone.

  • Andrew

    i just got my 16GB black iphone 3G today i hope i don’t have the same problem. how many other people have had this problem?

  • Andrew

    i just got my 16GB black iphone 3G today i hope i don’t have the same problem. how many other people have had this problem?

  • Andrew

    i just got my 16GB black iphone 3G today i hope i don’t have the same problem. how many other people have had this problem?

  • Carla

    A paper clip? really?

    Sounds like me and my first gen iphone!

  • Carla

    A paper clip? really?

    Sounds like me and my first gen iphone!

  • prefekt

    After having almost the same issues with my iPhone, i contacted Rogers – they said they’d send one out (on the 18th). I called back on the 26th and it for some unknown reason wasn’t sent out. I called again today and was, for the very first time, informed that if for any reason they felt that the issues i was having were caused by usage and not by poor battery life, i would be held liable for the cost of a brand new phone.

    Personally i’m a little frightened by that…
    although i may or may not be now considering not returning the first phone when i receive the replacement and taking a gander on craigslist, if they’re only going to charge $630 as a replacement fee.

  • prefekt

    After having almost the same issues with my iPhone, i contacted Rogers – they said they’d send one out (on the 18th). I called back on the 26th and it for some unknown reason wasn’t sent out. I called again today and was, for the very first time, informed that if for any reason they felt that the issues i was having were caused by usage and not by poor battery life, i would be held liable for the cost of a brand new phone.

    Personally i’m a little frightened by that…
    although i may or may not be now considering not returning the first phone when i receive the replacement and taking a gander on craigslist, if they’re only going to charge $630 as a replacement fee.

  • Carla

    A paper clip? really?

    Sounds like me and my first gen iphone!

  • prefekt

    After having almost the same issues with my iPhone, i contacted Rogers – they said they’d send one out (on the 18th). I called back on the 26th and it for some unknown reason wasn’t sent out. I called again today and was, for the very first time, informed that if for any reason they felt that the issues i was having were caused by usage and not by poor battery life, i would be held liable for the cost of a brand new phone.

    Personally i’m a little frightened by that…
    although i may or may not be now considering not returning the first phone when i receive the replacement and taking a gander on craigslist, if they’re only going to charge $630 as a replacement fee.

  • sihotrain

    I also had battery problems. I called Rogers and they said they will send me a replacement iphone but I couldn’t wait so I cancelled my contract (within 15 days) and went into a Rogers store to buy a new iphone. After I left the Rogers store, I decided to go into an Apple store to speak to one of their tech assistance. He had a look at my iphone and said that the battery was defective and replaced it. So now I have 2 brand new iphones (1 from Rogers and 1 from Apple). Then when I got home, I had a message from a Rogers CSR apologizing about my faulty iPhone and that they have sent a replacement iphone and I should receive it in 2-3 business days. I also received an email from Rogers with the tracking number. So in a few days I will have 3 iphones. Crazy!

    What would a reasonable man do in my position?

  • sihotrain

    I also had battery problems. I called Rogers and they said they will send me a replacement iphone but I couldn’t wait so I cancelled my contract (within 15 days) and went into a Rogers store to buy a new iphone. After I left the Rogers store, I decided to go into an Apple store to speak to one of their tech assistance. He had a look at my iphone and said that the battery was defective and replaced it. So now I have 2 brand new iphones (1 from Rogers and 1 from Apple). Then when I got home, I had a message from a Rogers CSR apologizing about my faulty iPhone and that they have sent a replacement iphone and I should receive it in 2-3 business days. I also received an email from Rogers with the tracking number. So in a few days I will have 3 iphones. Crazy!

    What would a reasonable man do in my position?

  • sihotrain

    I also had battery problems. I called Rogers and they said they will send me a replacement iphone but I couldn’t wait so I cancelled my contract (within 15 days) and went into a Rogers store to buy a new iphone. After I left the Rogers store, I decided to go into an Apple store to speak to one of their tech assistance. He had a look at my iphone and said that the battery was defective and replaced it. So now I have 2 brand new iphones (1 from Rogers and 1 from Apple). Then when I got home, I had a message from a Rogers CSR apologizing about my faulty iPhone and that they have sent a replacement iphone and I should receive it in 2-3 business days. I also received an email from Rogers with the tracking number. So in a few days I will have 3 iphones. Crazy!

    What would a reasonable man do in my position?

  • AdamCanada

    I realizedbthat the standby time is actually totalbtime off the charger not actual standby time

  • AdamCanada

    I realizedbthat the standby time is actually totalbtime off the charger not actual standby time

  • W

    dude sohotrain you are a lucky man all I can say is eBay LOL

  • W

    dude sohotrain you are a lucky man all I can say is eBay LOL

  • W

    dude sohotrain you are a lucky man all I can say is eBay LOL

  • Duc

    @sihotrain
    Ok so you cancelled your contract with Rogers on the first Iphone. That will be $400.00 for early termination fee plus $30.00 for the first month of data plan.
    You got another new iphone at Rogers so that could be $199 or $299 for either the 8GB of 6GB respectively. Plus you cannot buy just the iphone itself without signing a new contract, right or am I wrong? About Apple replacing you a new Iphone…is this true?? I thought Apple stores at Canadian stores don’t actually sell the Iphone and will direct you to either Rogers or Fido? So if you’re saying you got a replacement from the Apple store you are very lucky. So now Rogers are going to send you a new replacement but I am sure you will need to send back your old Iphone within 15 days or else pay $630. I think at the end you will have only 2 Iphones and you may have to pay some $$$. Good luck.

  • Duc

    @sihotrain
    Ok so you cancelled your contract with Rogers on the first Iphone. That will be $400.00 for early termination fee plus $30.00 for the first month of data plan.
    You got another new iphone at Rogers so that could be $199 or $299 for either the 8GB of 6GB respectively. Plus you cannot buy just the iphone itself without signing a new contract, right or am I wrong? About Apple replacing you a new Iphone…is this true?? I thought Apple stores at Canadian stores don’t actually sell the Iphone and will direct you to either Rogers or Fido? So if you’re saying you got a replacement from the Apple store you are very lucky. So now Rogers are going to send you a new replacement but I am sure you will need to send back your old Iphone within 15 days or else pay $630. I think at the end you will have only 2 Iphones and you may have to pay some $$$. Good luck.

  • Duc

    @sihotrain
    Ok so you cancelled your contract with Rogers on the first Iphone. That will be $400.00 for early termination fee plus $30.00 for the first month of data plan.
    You got another new iphone at Rogers so that could be $199 or $299 for either the 8GB of 6GB respectively. Plus you cannot buy just the iphone itself without signing a new contract, right or am I wrong? About Apple replacing you a new Iphone…is this true?? I thought Apple stores at Canadian stores don’t actually sell the Iphone and will direct you to either Rogers or Fido? So if you’re saying you got a replacement from the Apple store you are very lucky. So now Rogers are going to send you a new replacement but I am sure you will need to send back your old Iphone within 15 days or else pay $630. I think at the end you will have only 2 Iphones and you may have to pay some $$$. Good luck.

  • Andrew

    omg I’m typing this on my iPhone 3G with the 20% battery marker when I used it for three hours and thirty min wit 6 hours standy that pisses me off so much:@@I have all big things turned off too

  • Andrew

    omg I’m typing this on my iPhone 3G with the 20% battery marker when I used it for three hours and thirty min wit 6 hours standy that pisses me off so much:@@I have all big things turned off too

  • Andrew

    omg I’m typing this on my iPhone 3G with the 20% battery marker when I used it for three hours and thirty min wit 6 hours standy that pisses me off so much:@@I have all big things turned off too

  • sihotrain

    @Duc

    Yes The Apple Store at Eaton Centre (Downtown Toronto) have stock but they do not sell them. They are keeping stock for replacement. While I was there about 2 other guys got replacements. The have all 3 types in stock.

    Not sure what will happen with my 3 iPhones. The first contract I was able to cancel within 15 days so they will not charge me the $400 ecf. So all I have to do is return the phone and get my credit back and pay 14 days of usage.

    I will refuse the 3rd iphone when UPS delivers it so I think at the end I will be back to square 1 with a 16GB iPhone 3G. 2 reasons why I did it this way:
    1 – I did not want to wait 10-15 days for a replacement. I wanted it now.
    2 – I did not want a refurb phone that came in a generic brown box and a paper clip.

    I do have a question maybe somebody here can answer. The Rogers Store put me on this plan called Employee Price Plan. Now when I log on to My Rogers Online, its says this:

    Discount(s)
    Value Pack 1 Month Credit – To be removed on 30/08/2008
    Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/08/2008
    Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/07/2011 (WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?)
    33.3% Value Pack Add-on Disc.

    What does the Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/07/2011 means?

  • sihotrain

    @Duc

    Yes The Apple Store at Eaton Centre (Downtown Toronto) have stock but they do not sell them. They are keeping stock for replacement. While I was there about 2 other guys got replacements. The have all 3 types in stock.

    Not sure what will happen with my 3 iPhones. The first contract I was able to cancel within 15 days so they will not charge me the $400 ecf. So all I have to do is return the phone and get my credit back and pay 14 days of usage.

    I will refuse the 3rd iphone when UPS delivers it so I think at the end I will be back to square 1 with a 16GB iPhone 3G. 2 reasons why I did it this way:
    1 – I did not want to wait 10-15 days for a replacement. I wanted it now.
    2 – I did not want a refurb phone that came in a generic brown box and a paper clip.

    I do have a question maybe somebody here can answer. The Rogers Store put me on this plan called Employee Price Plan. Now when I log on to My Rogers Online, its says this:

    Discount(s)
    Value Pack 1 Month Credit – To be removed on 30/08/2008
    Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/08/2008
    Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/07/2011 (WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?)
    33.3% Value Pack Add-on Disc.

    What does the Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/07/2011 means?

  • sihotrain

    @Duc

    Yes The Apple Store at Eaton Centre (Downtown Toronto) have stock but they do not sell them. They are keeping stock for replacement. While I was there about 2 other guys got replacements. The have all 3 types in stock.

    Not sure what will happen with my 3 iPhones. The first contract I was able to cancel within 15 days so they will not charge me the $400 ecf. So all I have to do is return the phone and get my credit back and pay 14 days of usage.

    I will refuse the 3rd iphone when UPS delivers it so I think at the end I will be back to square 1 with a 16GB iPhone 3G. 2 reasons why I did it this way:
    1 – I did not want to wait 10-15 days for a replacement. I wanted it now.
    2 – I did not want a refurb phone that came in a generic brown box and a paper clip.

    I do have a question maybe somebody here can answer. The Rogers Store put me on this plan called Employee Price Plan. Now when I log on to My Rogers Online, its says this:

    Discount(s)
    Value Pack 1 Month Credit – To be removed on 30/08/2008
    Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/08/2008
    Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/07/2011 (WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?)
    33.3% Value Pack Add-on Disc.

    What does the Monthly Plan Credit – To be removed on 30/07/2011 means?

  • Alan

    ok so it seems like everyone is having a problem with the batteries in iphones. i TOO am having the same issue and i have spoke with rogers CSR and they told me couple of steps i have to go thru to replace my “defective” iphone with the “new” iphone, or so he said to me. apparently Apple is very strict in replacing the iphones and unless they see that it actually is defective, they wont replace it. So now after i have talked to rogers CSR, i have to reset everything in my iphone and do the restore and see what happen, and if it still has a bad battery, they will be shipping a new one to me.

  • Alan

    ok so it seems like everyone is having a problem with the batteries in iphones. i TOO am having the same issue and i have spoke with rogers CSR and they told me couple of steps i have to go thru to replace my “defective” iphone with the “new” iphone, or so he said to me. apparently Apple is very strict in replacing the iphones and unless they see that it actually is defective, they wont replace it. So now after i have talked to rogers CSR, i have to reset everything in my iphone and do the restore and see what happen, and if it still has a bad battery, they will be shipping a new one to me.

  • Andrew

    well my battery has the same problem so i did call rogers and actually got a very nice rep and he told me i had to reset the software on it and turn wifi and bluetooth off and use it as nothing other than a phone and if i still have problems to call and i will get a replacement right away. but still what a pain having to prove it i just want to get a working iphone. is that to much to ask steve jobs?

  • Andrew

    well my battery has the same problem so i did call rogers and actually got a very nice rep and he told me i had to reset the software on it and turn wifi and bluetooth off and use it as nothing other than a phone and if i still have problems to call and i will get a replacement right away. but still what a pain having to prove it i just want to get a working iphone. is that to much to ask steve jobs?

  • Andrew

    well my battery has the same problem so i did call rogers and actually got a very nice rep and he told me i had to reset the software on it and turn wifi and bluetooth off and use it as nothing other than a phone and if i still have problems to call and i will get a replacement right away. but still what a pain having to prove it i just want to get a working iphone. is that to much to ask steve jobs?

  • Andrew

    so pretty much I’m in the same situation as Alan is. I feel your pain man.

  • Andrew

    so pretty much I’m in the same situation as Alan is. I feel your pain man.

  • Andrew

    so pretty much I’m in the same situation as Alan is. I feel your pain man.

  • matt

    I called Rogers, said I had a problem with my battery and pretty much was told… “Tell me about it! Battery life is horrible on all of them. It’s no defect.” Then I was also told, “We might carry another model of the iPhone in the future that will have better life, which you could buy.” Well geez… No replacement for me. Thanks Rogers!

  • matt

    I called Rogers, said I had a problem with my battery and pretty much was told… “Tell me about it! Battery life is horrible on all of them. It’s no defect.” Then I was also told, “We might carry another model of the iPhone in the future that will have better life, which you could buy.” Well geez… No replacement for me. Thanks Rogers!

  • matt

    I called Rogers, said I had a problem with my battery and pretty much was told… “Tell me about it! Battery life is horrible on all of them. It’s no defect.” Then I was also told, “We might carry another model of the iPhone in the future that will have better life, which you could buy.” Well geez… No replacement for me. Thanks Rogers!

  • Mirth

    Well, I listened to the various reports of power issues here and must admit that this site is an amazing resource. Because we are mostly all iPhone users, and many of us own 3G phones, it is great to pool our experiences together in order to determine if we are having unusual phone behaviour. They are so new, there is no other way to find out what is “normal”.

    I thought that 2 hours and 30 minutes of talk/usage time and a 6 hour standby time to 10% (from fully trickle-charged) was normal. My reading prooved that it wasn’t.

    I thought that Fido (I went the doggy path) was probably selling most of their phones and also felt that they are so new that the support structure probably wasn’t in place yet with Fido for RMA phones… Because of this, I decided.. “I’m going to try contacting the manufacturer to see what all this hype is about apple service.”

    Enter the Apple Store (the physical one in Vancouver). I phoned them up and went through the menus to the iPhone 3G support. First, the recording was totally appologetic because they had “extreme call volume” and the message continued on to say that estimated wait times were “between 5 and 10 minutes”.

    Have they ever tried to call Telus? I mean honestly… If I’d EVER called Telus and only waited 5 to 10 minutes, I’d have had a heart attack and died.

    After 3 minutes, a cheery sounding guy answered the phone and confirmed that I owned an iPhone and was looking for assistance. I explained to him that I am a technologist and that my company is actually an authorized mac service centre for internal support (no, we are not open to the public…) I explained that I was a member of this forum (mentioned the IPHONEINCANADA.CA name, hope I didn’t violate a copyright). He said that he was familiar with the site! (way to go iPhone Fan).

    Anyway, I explained that I’ve turned off all the transmission services from 3G to Wireless. Explained that I had to keep the bluetooth on, because I couldn’t function without my Jawbone. šŸ™‚

    His response was quick. “sounds like you’ve done everything possible. Are you able to get into the Apple Store in Vancouver. I have appointments for 8:15pm and 8:30pm tonight.” he asked me to hold for a moment while he confirmed that they had warranty units in stock.

    When he returned, he explained that they did, and he had a phone put aside for me so that it would be there when I arrived. He gave me a reference number and explained that he was instructing the local service tech to simply “replace the phone” without question. He said they “might hook it up to run the diagnostics, just for their own records, but you will be leaving with a new phone.”

    I said that I was worried about it being a repaired phone, as I’m fairly anal about having the phone in pristine condition. He assured me that there are not “reconditioned” phones available yet. The only difference between the phones will be that the service replacements don’t come in the fancy boxes with all the parts and accessories. These are just “phones in a plain box”.

    He was right. The phone was new, with no scuffs or bumps. It had all the factory wrap on it.

    The new phone? Wow… I’m totally amazed. I can use the phone for 6 hours, and get 1 day, 3 hours, and 35 minutes of standby and still not get the “20% warning”. This performance is FAR FAR better than before. Shockingly so.

    So, thanks to everyone here for showing me that I had an issue. Having to charge the phone three times a day is NOT normal! šŸ™‚

    Woot for iphoneincanada.ca!

    cheers!

  • Mirth

    Well, I listened to the various reports of power issues here and must admit that this site is an amazing resource. Because we are mostly all iPhone users, and many of us own 3G phones, it is great to pool our experiences together in order to determine if we are having unusual phone behaviour. They are so new, there is no other way to find out what is “normal”.

    I thought that 2 hours and 30 minutes of talk/usage time and a 6 hour standby time to 10% (from fully trickle-charged) was normal. My reading prooved that it wasn’t.

    I thought that Fido (I went the doggy path) was probably selling most of their phones and also felt that they are so new that the support structure probably wasn’t in place yet with Fido for RMA phones… Because of this, I decided.. “I’m going to try contacting the manufacturer to see what all this hype is about apple service.”

    Enter the Apple Store (the physical one in Vancouver). I phoned them up and went through the menus to the iPhone 3G support. First, the recording was totally appologetic because they had “extreme call volume” and the message continued on to say that estimated wait times were “between 5 and 10 minutes”.

    Have they ever tried to call Telus? I mean honestly… If I’d EVER called Telus and only waited 5 to 10 minutes, I’d have had a heart attack and died.

    After 3 minutes, a cheery sounding guy answered the phone and confirmed that I owned an iPhone and was looking for assistance. I explained to him that I am a technologist and that my company is actually an authorized mac service centre for internal support (no, we are not open to the public…) I explained that I was a member of this forum (mentioned the IPHONEINCANADA.CA name, hope I didn’t violate a copyright). He said that he was familiar with the site! (way to go iPhone Fan).

    Anyway, I explained that I’ve turned off all the transmission services from 3G to Wireless. Explained that I had to keep the bluetooth on, because I couldn’t function without my Jawbone. šŸ™‚

    His response was quick. “sounds like you’ve done everything possible. Are you able to get into the Apple Store in Vancouver. I have appointments for 8:15pm and 8:30pm tonight.” he asked me to hold for a moment while he confirmed that they had warranty units in stock.

    When he returned, he explained that they did, and he had a phone put aside for me so that it would be there when I arrived. He gave me a reference number and explained that he was instructing the local service tech to simply “replace the phone” without question. He said they “might hook it up to run the diagnostics, just for their own records, but you will be leaving with a new phone.”

    I said that I was worried about it being a repaired phone, as I’m fairly anal about having the phone in pristine condition. He assured me that there are not “reconditioned” phones available yet. The only difference between the phones will be that the service replacements don’t come in the fancy boxes with all the parts and accessories. These are just “phones in a plain box”.

    He was right. The phone was new, with no scuffs or bumps. It had all the factory wrap on it.

    The new phone? Wow… I’m totally amazed. I can use the phone for 6 hours, and get 1 day, 3 hours, and 35 minutes of standby and still not get the “20% warning”. This performance is FAR FAR better than before. Shockingly so.

    So, thanks to everyone here for showing me that I had an issue. Having to charge the phone three times a day is NOT normal! šŸ™‚

    Woot for iphoneincanada.ca!

    cheers!

  • Mirth

    Well, I listened to the various reports of power issues here and must admit that this site is an amazing resource. Because we are mostly all iPhone users, and many of us own 3G phones, it is great to pool our experiences together in order to determine if we are having unusual phone behaviour. They are so new, there is no other way to find out what is “normal”.

    I thought that 2 hours and 30 minutes of talk/usage time and a 6 hour standby time to 10% (from fully trickle-charged) was normal. My reading prooved that it wasn’t.

    I thought that Fido (I went the doggy path) was probably selling most of their phones and also felt that they are so new that the support structure probably wasn’t in place yet with Fido for RMA phones… Because of this, I decided.. “I’m going to try contacting the manufacturer to see what all this hype is about apple service.”

    Enter the Apple Store (the physical one in Vancouver). I phoned them up and went through the menus to the iPhone 3G support. First, the recording was totally appologetic because they had “extreme call volume” and the message continued on to say that estimated wait times were “between 5 and 10 minutes”.

    Have they ever tried to call Telus? I mean honestly… If I’d EVER called Telus and only waited 5 to 10 minutes, I’d have had a heart attack and died.

    After 3 minutes, a cheery sounding guy answered the phone and confirmed that I owned an iPhone and was looking for assistance. I explained to him that I am a technologist and that my company is actually an authorized mac service centre for internal support (no, we are not open to the public…) I explained that I was a member of this forum (mentioned the IPHONEINCANADA.CA name, hope I didn’t violate a copyright). He said that he was familiar with the site! (way to go iPhone Fan).

    Anyway, I explained that I’ve turned off all the transmission services from 3G to Wireless. Explained that I had to keep the bluetooth on, because I couldn’t function without my Jawbone. šŸ™‚

    His response was quick. “sounds like you’ve done everything possible. Are you able to get into the Apple Store in Vancouver. I have appointments for 8:15pm and 8:30pm tonight.” he asked me to hold for a moment while he confirmed that they had warranty units in stock.

    When he returned, he explained that they did, and he had a phone put aside for me so that it would be there when I arrived. He gave me a reference number and explained that he was instructing the local service tech to simply “replace the phone” without question. He said they “might hook it up to run the diagnostics, just for their own records, but you will be leaving with a new phone.”

    I said that I was worried about it being a repaired phone, as I’m fairly anal about having the phone in pristine condition. He assured me that there are not “reconditioned” phones available yet. The only difference between the phones will be that the service replacements don’t come in the fancy boxes with all the parts and accessories. These are just “phones in a plain box”.

    He was right. The phone was new, with no scuffs or bumps. It had all the factory wrap on it.

    The new phone? Wow… I’m totally amazed. I can use the phone for 6 hours, and get 1 day, 3 hours, and 35 minutes of standby and still not get the “20% warning”. This performance is FAR FAR better than before. Shockingly so.

    So, thanks to everyone here for showing me that I had an issue. Having to charge the phone three times a day is NOT normal! šŸ™‚

    Woot for iphoneincanada.ca!

    cheers!

  • Ryan

    Okay i really don’t understand what to do here my iphone has terrible battery life i call rogers and they are putting me through some 24 hour trouble shooting phase where i have to turn off all the features etc etc i call back the second day and it turns out the terrible phone rep lady puts a strange note that i used alot of data even though i did not any ways they made me restore my iPhone and put it into DFU mode and said to call back if u still have this problem and i might have to wait another 24 hours to see if i still had this problem im really getting frustrated and i dont know what to do should i bother calling back or should i just head to my local apple store in the Toronto area someone with advice please email me ryankohli@hotmail.com thanks for all the help please help me out guys appreciated

  • Ryan

    Okay i really don’t understand what to do here my iphone has terrible battery life i call rogers and they are putting me through some 24 hour trouble shooting phase where i have to turn off all the features etc etc i call back the second day and it turns out the terrible phone rep lady puts a strange note that i used alot of data even though i did not any ways they made me restore my iPhone and put it into DFU mode and said to call back if u still have this problem and i might have to wait another 24 hours to see if i still had this problem im really getting frustrated and i dont know what to do should i bother calling back or should i just head to my local apple store in the Toronto area someone with advice please email me ryankohli@hotmail.com thanks for all the help please help me out guys appreciated

  • Ryan

    Okay i really don’t understand what to do here my iphone has terrible battery life i call rogers and they are putting me through some 24 hour trouble shooting phase where i have to turn off all the features etc etc i call back the second day and it turns out the terrible phone rep lady puts a strange note that i used alot of data even though i did not any ways they made me restore my iPhone and put it into DFU mode and said to call back if u still have this problem and i might have to wait another 24 hours to see if i still had this problem im really getting frustrated and i dont know what to do should i bother calling back or should i just head to my local apple store in the Toronto area someone with advice please email me ryankohli@hotmail.com thanks for all the help please help me out guys appreciated

  • Jason

    I am not kidding when I say I had the exact same issue TODAY. I bought this phone less than a week ago, had a full charge at midnight, unplugged it, and in less than 7 hours, the phone was dead. I did not receive 1 call or 1 e-mail.

    When I called Apple today in regards to this issue, they wanted me to pay $400 for the phone (hold only) and $30 for advanced replacement AFTER the gentleman yesterday convinced me to buy the Apple Care Protection Plan where, “we will send you a new phone if you have the problem.” Same problem and they did not even recognize the issue I had before they were telling me to shut off all my services and make it version 1. I said “no” and send me a new phone. They are in the process now and I should have it by Tuesday.

    The best part is they TRIED to convince me 8 hours standby is completely normal with 3G turned on. I said not according to your website. They kept referring to this mystery “article” that stated 8 hours was normal. I kept referring to their own website. I even have a friend that bought their phone the same week and lives in the same apartment and her phone more than doubled my battery life.

    With ll that said, I liked the article and how my last 2 days have mirrored the issues and frustrations felt by all. I KNOW the phone has horrible battery life compared to my previous BB but I knew that going into it. However, do not let Apple/Rogers/AT&T convince you to turn your NEW 3G into a Gen 1 phone. It is NOT. Make them send you a new one. Live long and prosperous.

  • Jason

    I am not kidding when I say I had the exact same issue TODAY. I bought this phone less than a week ago, had a full charge at midnight, unplugged it, and in less than 7 hours, the phone was dead. I did not receive 1 call or 1 e-mail.

    When I called Apple today in regards to this issue, they wanted me to pay $400 for the phone (hold only) and $30 for advanced replacement AFTER the gentleman yesterday convinced me to buy the Apple Care Protection Plan where, “we will send you a new phone if you have the problem.” Same problem and they did not even recognize the issue I had before they were telling me to shut off all my services and make it version 1. I said “no” and send me a new phone. They are in the process now and I should have it by Tuesday.

    The best part is they TRIED to convince me 8 hours standby is completely normal with 3G turned on. I said not according to your website. They kept referring to this mystery “article” that stated 8 hours was normal. I kept referring to their own website. I even have a friend that bought their phone the same week and lives in the same apartment and her phone more than doubled my battery life.

    With ll that said, I liked the article and how my last 2 days have mirrored the issues and frustrations felt by all. I KNOW the phone has horrible battery life compared to my previous BB but I knew that going into it. However, do not let Apple/Rogers/AT&T convince you to turn your NEW 3G into a Gen 1 phone. It is NOT. Make them send you a new one. Live long and prosperous.

  • I am not kidding when I say I had the exact same issue TODAY. I bought this phone less than a week ago, had a full charge at midnight, unplugged it, and in less than 7 hours, the phone was dead. I did not receive 1 call or 1 e-mail.

    When I called Apple today in regards to this issue, they wanted me to pay $400 for the phone (hold only) and $30 for advanced replacement AFTER the gentleman yesterday convinced me to buy the Apple Care Protection Plan where, “we will send you a new phone if you have the problem.” Same problem and they did not even recognize the issue I had before they were telling me to shut off all my services and make it version 1. I said “no” and send me a new phone. They are in the process now and I should have it by Tuesday.

    The best part is they TRIED to convince me 8 hours standby is completely normal with 3G turned on. I said not according to your website. They kept referring to this mystery “article” that stated 8 hours was normal. I kept referring to their own website. I even have a friend that bought their phone the same week and lives in the same apartment and her phone more than doubled my battery life.

    With ll that said, I liked the article and how my last 2 days have mirrored the issues and frustrations felt by all. I KNOW the phone has horrible battery life compared to my previous BB but I knew that going into it. However, do not let Apple/Rogers/AT&T convince you to turn your NEW 3G into a Gen 1 phone. It is NOT. Make them send you a new one. Live long and prosperous.

  • Ryan

    # Jason were u referring to my post or the Blogers post ?

  • Ryan

    # Jason were u referring to my post or the Blogers post ?

  • Ryan

    # Jason were u referring to my post or the Blogers post ?

  • Jason

    Ryan, my discussion actually works for both the blogger and you. I would suggest calling back and demanding a new phone. Shoot, reference this article. I keep doing my own tests each night and finally got them to send me a new phone (hopefully new). If they have a store near you, call them and get it traded out. Do not let them tell you that 8-19 hours standby is ok. It is not. This is a PDA and needs to mirror the battery life of the blogger. If you go on Apple’s website under iPhone and tech, they give you not only the talk/standby times with the actually specs they run: 3G on, Wi-Fi off, etc. If yours do not come close, they should send you a new one. Hope this helps.

  • Jason

    Ryan, my discussion actually works for both the blogger and you. I would suggest calling back and demanding a new phone. Shoot, reference this article. I keep doing my own tests each night and finally got them to send me a new phone (hopefully new). If they have a store near you, call them and get it traded out. Do not let them tell you that 8-19 hours standby is ok. It is not. This is a PDA and needs to mirror the battery life of the blogger. If you go on Apple’s website under iPhone and tech, they give you not only the talk/standby times with the actually specs they run: 3G on, Wi-Fi off, etc. If yours do not come close, they should send you a new one. Hope this helps.

  • Ryan, my discussion actually works for both the blogger and you. I would suggest calling back and demanding a new phone. Shoot, reference this article. I keep doing my own tests each night and finally got them to send me a new phone (hopefully new). If they have a store near you, call them and get it traded out. Do not let them tell you that 8-19 hours standby is ok. It is not. This is a PDA and needs to mirror the battery life of the blogger. If you go on Apple’s website under iPhone and tech, they give you not only the talk/standby times with the actually specs they run: 3G on, Wi-Fi off, etc. If yours do not come close, they should send you a new one. Hope this helps.

  • Ryan

    Thanks Jason appreciated

  • Ryan

    Thanks Jason appreciated

  • Ryan

    Thanks Jason appreciated

  • Ben

    I phoned Fido. They told me that the Standby in Setting –> Genernal –> Usage –> Standby… is not the standby that the phone can last. They said the number it shows is how long the iphone is in standby mode since last recharge. My question now is … how do I know how much longer will my iphone last beside reading the green battery bar at the top ight corner ? And is the Fido sale rep is correct that the standby in iphone is showing how long the phone is standby but not the reminding standby time ?
    Thanks!

  • Ben

    I phoned Fido. They told me that the Standby in Setting –> Genernal –> Usage –> Standby… is not the standby that the phone can last. They said the number it shows is how long the iphone is in standby mode since last recharge. My question now is … how do I know how much longer will my iphone last beside reading the green battery bar at the top ight corner ? And is the Fido sale rep is correct that the standby in iphone is showing how long the phone is standby but not the reminding standby time ?
    Thanks!

  • Jason

    I agree with FIDO. However, it is a great barometer to testing Apple’s results versus real world. If you want the best testing, set up your phone like Apple has their test unit (Apple webpage – iPhone – Tech) and see if you get similar results. It will not be exact but if it is significantly off (+/- 30-45 minutes), I would seriously contemplate calling Apple/Fido and getting it checked.

  • I agree with FIDO. However, it is a great barometer to testing Apple’s results versus real world. If you want the best testing, set up your phone like Apple has their test unit (Apple webpage – iPhone – Tech) and see if you get similar results. It will not be exact but if it is significantly off (+/- 30-45 minutes), I would seriously contemplate calling Apple/Fido and getting it checked.

  • Ben

    Thank You Jason. so the only way I can see if my phone battery has something wrong is to go to Apple store to get it check? Do they have Apple store in Vancouver ? Thanks a million guys.

  • Ben

    Thank You Jason. so the only way I can see if my phone battery has something wrong is to go to Apple store to get it check? Do they have Apple store in Vancouver ? Thanks a million guys.

  • Jason

    Basically. It is a strange situation. I live in Dallas, TX and speak on behalf of my experiences with Apple/AT&T. All the experiences I have read here mimic my experiences with the battery life and the swap out program. Best of luck in CA.

  • Basically. It is a strange situation. I live in Dallas, TX and speak on behalf of my experiences with Apple/AT&T. All the experiences I have read here mimic my experiences with the battery life and the swap out program. Best of luck in CA.

  • ML

    Did you drain the battery before getting such good results? I see that people suggest doing 3-5 cycles of 100%->”self shut off” before the battery performs great. While I don’t see the point of “conditioning” the lithium batteries, some say it help. Any comments?

  • ML

    Did you drain the battery before getting such good results? I see that people suggest doing 3-5 cycles of 100%->”self shut off” before the battery performs great. While I don’t see the point of “conditioning” the lithium batteries, some say it help. Any comments?

  • Jason

    Battery life does seem to get better the more you cycle the full power but I am interested in how much VPN eats battery life. I still think there should be a standard in battery life with a full 8 hour charge. I think if you give it a full 8 hours and the battery life only gives you 1/2 of the apple stats, give it a few days of playing with settings.

  • Jason

    Battery life does seem to get better the more you cycle the full power but I am interested in how much VPN eats battery life. I still think there should be a standard in battery life with a full 8 hour charge. I think if you give it a full 8 hours and the battery life only gives you 1/2 of the apple stats, give it a few days of playing with settings.

  • Battery life does seem to get better the more you cycle the full power but I am interested in how much VPN eats battery life. I still think there should be a standard in battery life with a full 8 hour charge. I think if you give it a full 8 hours and the battery life only gives you 1/2 of the apple stats, give it a few days of playing with settings.

  • Jason

    Apple sent new iPhone out yesterday afternoon via DHL Next Day delivery and it arrived today by noon. I will unplug the phone at midnight and will see if this batteries results are any better. I will keep you all posted and I pray to have the same results as the write of this original blog.

    By the way, check out http://www.mophie.com. Holy Cray! I cannot wait for this back-up battery for performance and looks.

  • Apple sent new iPhone out yesterday afternoon via DHL Next Day delivery and it arrived today by noon. I will unplug the phone at midnight and will see if this batteries results are any better. I will keep you all posted and I pray to have the same results as the write of this original blog.

    By the way, check out http://www.mophie.com. Holy Cray! I cannot wait for this back-up battery for performance and looks.

  • Jason

    Night one… Much better battery life. I had 3G turned on as well as data roaming, location services, and VPN (part of the time b/c of random disconnect). Although I did not receive any calls or e-mails between midnight and 7 am, I had a lengthy conversation prior to bed and did not put back on charger.

    When I woke up (although nervous about check my phone), I noticed I still had 2/3 of the battery life remaining. Woo-hoo! I expect better battery life over the next week as the battery “breaks in” but I had good results from last night. I will never know how they got 300 hours standby time, it is all good. I am hoping to make it a full day without having to re-charge. That will be a plus.

    So, to all of you with significantly below battery life to the point where you think there is probably something wrong, there might just be.

  • Jason

    Night one… Much better battery life. I had 3G turned on as well as data roaming, location services, and VPN (part of the time b/c of random disconnect). Although I did not receive any calls or e-mails between midnight and 7 am, I had a lengthy conversation prior to bed and did not put back on charger.

    When I woke up (although nervous about check my phone), I noticed I still had 2/3 of the battery life remaining. Woo-hoo! I expect better battery life over the next week as the battery “breaks in” but I had good results from last night. I will never know how they got 300 hours standby time, it is all good. I am hoping to make it a full day without having to re-charge. That will be a plus.

    So, to all of you with significantly below battery life to the point where you think there is probably something wrong, there might just be.

  • Night one… Much better battery life. I had 3G turned on as well as data roaming, location services, and VPN (part of the time b/c of random disconnect). Although I did not receive any calls or e-mails between midnight and 7 am, I had a lengthy conversation prior to bed and did not put back on charger.

    When I woke up (although nervous about check my phone), I noticed I still had 2/3 of the battery life remaining. Woo-hoo! I expect better battery life over the next week as the battery “breaks in” but I had good results from last night. I will never know how they got 300 hours standby time, it is all good. I am hoping to make it a full day without having to re-charge. That will be a plus.

    So, to all of you with significantly below battery life to the point where you think there is probably something wrong, there might just be.

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  • Jason

    My first follow-up: The first full day I had 4.5 hours of usage and slightly over 11 hours of standby before my phone hit 10% battery life. Although I did not quite see the same results as the original posting, my office only allows me 2 bars on 3G and 5 on EDGE. So, it is a vast improvement over my previous model and I did have GPS turned on all day with GPS (not associated with network). I hope over the next few days/weeks, I will see even more improvements.

    Although the US and Canada are quite different and 3G is somewhat spotty in the Dallas metroplex, I hope my entries help you all out that have poor battery issues. It seems like the new phone is doing much better and I hope to keep breaking in this battery nicely. I will keep you all posted after the weekend.

  • Jason

    My first follow-up: The first full day I had 4.5 hours of usage and slightly over 11 hours of standby before my phone hit 10% battery life. Although I did not quite see the same results as the original posting, my office only allows me 2 bars on 3G and 5 on EDGE. So, it is a vast improvement over my previous model and I did have GPS turned on all day with GPS (not associated with network). I hope over the next few days/weeks, I will see even more improvements.

    Although the US and Canada are quite different and 3G is somewhat spotty in the Dallas metroplex, I hope my entries help you all out that have poor battery issues. It seems like the new phone is doing much better and I hope to keep breaking in this battery nicely. I will keep you all posted after the weekend.

  • My first follow-up: The first full day I had 4.5 hours of usage and slightly over 11 hours of standby before my phone hit 10% battery life. Although I did not quite see the same results as the original posting, my office only allows me 2 bars on 3G and 5 on EDGE. So, it is a vast improvement over my previous model and I did have GPS turned on all day with GPS (not associated with network). I hope over the next few days/weeks, I will see even more improvements.

    Although the US and Canada are quite different and 3G is somewhat spotty in the Dallas metroplex, I hope my entries help you all out that have poor battery issues. It seems like the new phone is doing much better and I hope to keep breaking in this battery nicely. I will keep you all posted after the weekend.

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  • confused

    ok. I am confused. I use the iphone mostly for wifi. I only get around 3 hours of use average. Is this normal? How does apple determine your battery is a did?

    Also, how long do u charge your iPhone for as this is not mentioned anywhere.

  • confused

    ok. I am confused. I use the iphone mostly for wifi. I only get around 3 hours of use average. Is this normal? How does apple determine your battery is a did?

    Also, how long do u charge your iPhone for as this is not mentioned anywhere.

  • confused

    ok. I am confused. I use the iphone mostly for wifi. I only get around 3 hours of use average. Is this normal? How does apple determine your battery is a did?

    Also, how long do u charge your iPhone for as this is not mentioned anywhere.

  • Christopher

    Actually, with lithium ion batteries it is not bad to charge nightly or even whenever you are at your desk.

    You are thinking of nickel metal hydride. In the case of NiMH batteries it is bad to charge them before they are completely run down because the batteries have a “memory” (actually it’s chemical buildup on the cathode).

    With Lithium Ion it is actually bad to run it down below 10%. Every time you run a Li+ battery below 10% you lose a certain percentage of your capacity (I can’t remember the exact number right now, but it’s a couple percent). Li+ batteries actually function their best if they are charged all the time.

    There’s everyone’s battery lesson for the day šŸ™‚

  • Christopher

    Actually, with lithium ion batteries it is not bad to charge nightly or even whenever you are at your desk.

    You are thinking of nickel metal hydride. In the case of NiMH batteries it is bad to charge them before they are completely run down because the batteries have a “memory” (actually it’s chemical buildup on the cathode).

    With Lithium Ion it is actually bad to run it down below 10%. Every time you run a Li+ battery below 10% you lose a certain percentage of your capacity (I can’t remember the exact number right now, but it’s a couple percent). Li+ batteries actually function their best if they are charged all the time.

    There’s everyone’s battery lesson for the day šŸ™‚

  • Christopher

    Actually, with lithium ion batteries it is not bad to charge nightly or even whenever you are at your desk.

    You are thinking of nickel metal hydride. In the case of NiMH batteries it is bad to charge them before they are completely run down because the batteries have a “memory” (actually it’s chemical buildup on the cathode).

    With Lithium Ion it is actually bad to run it down below 10%. Every time you run a Li+ battery below 10% you lose a certain percentage of your capacity (I can’t remember the exact number right now, but it’s a couple percent). Li+ batteries actually function their best if they are charged all the time.

    There’s everyone’s battery lesson for the day šŸ™‚

  • Jason

    It is NOT normal. If you have 3G and moderate usage, you should be able to go a day without charging. 3 hours is well under average in terms of battery life. I do not know how Apple can determine one good battery from another but I would recommend calling them, getting it noted and a case number, following suggestions, and calling back if you have the same issue. If you follow theri requests and it still does not perform to a number close to their specs, ask for a replacement.

  • Jason

    It is NOT normal. If you have 3G and moderate usage, you should be able to go a day without charging. 3 hours is well under average in terms of battery life. I do not know how Apple can determine one good battery from another but I would recommend calling them, getting it noted and a case number, following suggestions, and calling back if you have the same issue. If you follow theri requests and it still does not perform to a number close to their specs, ask for a replacement.

  • Jason

    It is NOT normal. If you have 3G and moderate usage, you should be able to go a day without charging. 3 hours is well under average in terms of battery life. I do not know how Apple can determine one good battery from another but I would recommend calling them, getting it noted and a case number, following suggestions, and calling back if you have the same issue. If you follow theri requests and it still does not perform to a number close to their specs, ask for a replacement.

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  • shawn

    My 2 year old Apache PPC lasts 15 hours (standby) and that is with the EVDO going 24/7 and my 3 IMAP accounts pinging the mail server every 10 minutes.

    This includes about 20-30 minutes of call time and 10-20 minutes of web surfing but an equal amount of “playing”.

    I have been researching iphones but they have a long way to go and w/o a removable battery…it’s just a bad choice for business people.

    1. I hate apple for there form over function ideals. This affects the removable battery need.
    2. I hate apple for sticking it to people to spend silly money to swap out a battery that will only last a year, or better.

    If this phone had a removable battery I could swap in mid-day, I might consider it…but doubtful.

    I’ll wait again for 3.0

  • shawn

    My 2 year old Apache PPC lasts 15 hours (standby) and that is with the EVDO going 24/7 and my 3 IMAP accounts pinging the mail server every 10 minutes.

    This includes about 20-30 minutes of call time and 10-20 minutes of web surfing but an equal amount of “playing”.

    I have been researching iphones but they have a long way to go and w/o a removable battery…it’s just a bad choice for business people.

    1. I hate apple for there form over function ideals. This affects the removable battery need.
    2. I hate apple for sticking it to people to spend silly money to swap out a battery that will only last a year, or better.

    If this phone had a removable battery I could swap in mid-day, I might consider it…but doubtful.

    I’ll wait again for 3.0

  • shawn

    My 2 year old Apache PPC lasts 15 hours (standby) and that is with the EVDO going 24/7 and my 3 IMAP accounts pinging the mail server every 10 minutes.

    This includes about 20-30 minutes of call time and 10-20 minutes of web surfing but an equal amount of “playing”.

    I have been researching iphones but they have a long way to go and w/o a removable battery…it’s just a bad choice for business people.

    1. I hate apple for there form over function ideals. This affects the removable battery need.
    2. I hate apple for sticking it to people to spend silly money to swap out a battery that will only last a year, or better.

    If this phone had a removable battery I could swap in mid-day, I might consider it…but doubtful.

    I’ll wait again for 3.0

  • Grank

    Mostly correct… but the truth is that lithium ion batteries have a brutal shelf life expectancy, degrading significantly over time. Studies have shown that a battery of this type loses far less of its capacity over time if stored at a charge of about 50% rather than stored closer to 100% (or closer to 0%). Therefore, over time you can sort of maximize the amount of time the battery spends at that ideal midpoint charge level by allowing it to run down and be charged again. There is no performance penalty I’ve ever seen for doing this.
    The low battery life scenario to which you refer is actually specifically avoided by circuitry in almost all modern Li-ion devices. The battery is never allowed to discharge past that point.

  • Grank

    Mostly correct… but the truth is that lithium ion batteries have a brutal shelf life expectancy, degrading significantly over time. Studies have shown that a battery of this type loses far less of its capacity over time if stored at a charge of about 50% rather than stored closer to 100% (or closer to 0%). Therefore, over time you can sort of maximize the amount of time the battery spends at that ideal midpoint charge level by allowing it to run down and be charged again. There is no performance penalty I’ve ever seen for doing this.
    The low battery life scenario to which you refer is actually specifically avoided by circuitry in almost all modern Li-ion devices. The battery is never allowed to discharge past that point.

  • Grank

    Mostly correct… but the truth is that lithium ion batteries have a brutal shelf life expectancy, degrading significantly over time. Studies have shown that a battery of this type loses far less of its capacity over time if stored at a charge of about 50% rather than stored closer to 100% (or closer to 0%). Therefore, over time you can sort of maximize the amount of time the battery spends at that ideal midpoint charge level by allowing it to run down and be charged again. There is no performance penalty I’ve ever seen for doing this.
    The low battery life scenario to which you refer is actually specifically avoided by circuitry in almost all modern Li-ion devices. The battery is never allowed to discharge past that point.

  • Radu

    Hi, talking about batteries, why not giving Ebay a try ? New replacement batteries sell for 5-10$US from Honk Kong and that's including the shipping fees. Shipping time is about 1 week. Also, it's worth looking for that specific replacement battery but with a higher mAh number. It means it will last longer before recharge. You'll be shocked to find out that sometimes those chinese batteries replacements have HIGHER mAh number than the original batteries, and thats true for all devices such as iPhone or photo cameras or any other. All that at 1/10 the price the original manufactures try to make you pay for them. I've bought replacement batteries on Ebay for digital camera, cell phone and laptop. All of those performed up to any expectations, life time is excellent and the power, because the higher mAh, is way above the one in the original batteries.

  • Good idea, but cheaping out on untested batteries that might fry your
    precious iPhone is a risk we should all keep in mind. Kinda like those
    third party car chargers that fried first gen iPhones.

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  • NI

    Just received my Rogers Iphone 3gs. Same issue, battery will only last 12 hours, with 3G/wi-fi and bluetooth off. I only had 20 mins of talk time. Still within my 15days and will be shipping it back for a Blackberry bold. At this point there should be a recall on all the Iphone 3gs. What a waste of time.

  • aisling123123

    thanks xx who's roger???????
    šŸ˜•

  • my iPhone always shows 20% left!! i charged my iPhone whole day but i just can use it like 10 mins???!!!

  • Make sure “WiFi” is completely OFF. Actually go into the WiFi setting
    and toggle the setting Off.

  • LG

    telus iphone 3gs 16gb here and I HATE IT !!! USELESS PIECE OF SHIT FTW !!!

    here is why
    1. i had a blackberry PEARL !!! 8130 before and it was the bottom feeder fish of blackberry. Unlimited data and i actually used it on 3G all the time (CDMA) and it didnt even have Wifi so it was always on data regardless if i was at home.

    2. Battery life on the pearl vs Iphone was amazing, i cant even imagine how the new Bold behaves. My pearl would last a decent 12-15 hours with data enabled and the music running, whereas the ipod is brand new and barely lasts through 8 hours of some music and email. Its usually at 4% by the time i get home and its 3 days old.

    3. Iphone is limited beyond belief, ya it has tons of apps (which you have to pay for) and it has free skype which DOESNT WORK on 3G!!! only on WIFI !!! Amazing how useless that is.

    4. I didnt think i would miss it, but BBM was the bomb. Even the email is shit on the iphone, honestly people that own iphones are complete duches that lie through their teeth. Its a useless piece of shit with a crap camera, no camera light, no notifier LED and a crap ipod that only plays restricted formats. You cant even send files via bluetooth which even the OLD motorola razr could do.

    Bottom line, Im taking the iphone back and getting a blackberry. To truly enjoy the iphone you need to have it jailbroken to enable the features which might i add reduces the battery EVEN MORE !!!

    It may sound like im a hater but believe me, i wanted to get the iphone for a long time, and i regret it so much now. Its all of my idiot friends who dont know anything about phones who think the world of it and underestimate real cell phones.

    Those with iphones, enjoy your misery and keep lying to yourselves or take it back for a swap. Blackberry is a true workhorse so ill be getting the new bold.

  • LG

    telus iphone 3gs 16gb here and I HATE IT !!! USELESS PIECE OF SHIT FTW !!!

    here is why
    1. i had a blackberry PEARL !!! 8130 before and it was the bottom feeder fish of blackberry. Unlimited data and i actually used it on 3G all the time (CDMA) and it didnt even have Wifi so it was always on data regardless if i was at home.

    2. Battery life on the pearl vs Iphone was amazing, i cant even imagine how the new Bold behaves. My pearl would last a decent 12-15 hours with data enabled and the music running, whereas the ipod is brand new and barely lasts through 8 hours of some music and email. Its usually at 4% by the time i get home and its 3 days old.

    3. Iphone is limited beyond belief, ya it has tons of apps (which you have to pay for) and it has free skype which DOESNT WORK on 3G!!! only on WIFI !!! Amazing how useless that is.

    4. I didnt think i would miss it, but BBM was the bomb. Even the email is shit on the iphone, honestly people that own iphones are complete duches that lie through their teeth. Its a useless piece of shit with a crap camera, no camera light, no notifier LED and a crap ipod that only plays restricted formats. You cant even send files via bluetooth which even the OLD motorola razr could do.

    Bottom line, Im taking the iphone back and getting a blackberry. To truly enjoy the iphone you need to have it jailbroken to enable the features which might i add reduces the battery EVEN MORE !!!

    It may sound like im a hater but believe me, i wanted to get the iphone for a long time, and i regret it so much now. Its all of my idiot friends who dont know anything about phones who think the world of it and underestimate real cell phones.

    Those with iphones, enjoy your misery and keep lying to yourselves or take it back for a swap. Blackberry is a true workhorse so ill be getting the new bold.