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Rogers iPhone 3G Sales Flow: SIM Swaps Require Unbricking

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The iPhone 3G will be on sale Friday in Rogers and Fido retail stores. Yesterday we showed you how the iPhone 3G displays would be setup, which included the first real world look at the iPhone 3G dock. So far, iPhoneinCanada.ca has unearthed Rogers iPhone 3G training guides, which revealed a special version of iTunes would be required to unbrick the iPhone. Yesterday we showed you how the iPhone 3G displays would be setup, plus the first real world look at the iPhone 3G dock.

Well today, we have evidence to confirm that this is indeed true. This is just one crucial step that composes the Rogers iPhone 3G Sales Flow, which we’ve managed to get our dirty little fingers on. Just what exactly is the “sales flow?” Well, it outlines the steps employees should be following when selling and marketing the iPhone to would be customers (aka a 3 year long committment that feels like eternity–FAIL!)–that is if they haven’t already run to Bell/Telus!

There are 7 steps a Rogers/Fido employee will be taking to finally sell the iPhone 3G to unsuspecting customers. If you take a look at Step 6, the following information caught my attention:

Note: The tethering/unbricking process must be repeated every time a new SIM is inserted in the iPhone, even if the device has already been unbricked before.

So let’s say you buy a Rogers iPhone 3G for $199, pay the first month at $60 + $6.95 + $0.50…then decide to cancel and pay the cancellation fee of $400 in order to keep it, this is implying once the old SIM is taken out the phone will need to be unbricked again. If that’s the case, it means you’ll either have to go back to a Rogers/Fido store, or hope the iPhone Dev Team or some other unlocker has already gotten a headstart!

Anyways, take a look at both documents and see them for yourself and tell me what you think. Maybe print them out to ensure if employees in store are actually following the sales process! LOL 🙂

Joy of Tech: iPhone 3G or One Million Dollars?

Man, I love these comics. They are so damn funny that I still giggle like a little school girl the 2nd and 3rd time around. This one definitely applies to Rogers and their ridiculous prices (and other parts of the world too–Norway’s NetCom just offered unlimited data). It’s pure GOLD!!:

Click here to visit the full comic plus story…big props to joyoftech.com! Thanks for the awesome comics. Everyone, subscribe to their RSS feed if you haven’t already and bring a geeky smile to your face! 🙂

Boycott Rogers T-shirt Design from Jay

Fellow iPhoneinCanada.ca reader Jay has a pretty cool anti-Rogers t-shirt going on. He’s wearing it proud and if anyone wants the original image, contact me and we’ll send it out your way. I wonder what the rest of the shirt reads…

Apple Stores in the USA Will Sell iPhone 3G at 8am

Our American friends down south will be getting their hands on iPhone 3G goodness starting at 8am. As for us in the Great White North…we’re still waiting on hearing last minute details from Rogers, if any. The days are counting down…July 11th can’t come any sooner for some! It’s like counting down to Christmas, but already knowing that your present will be a box full of rocks.

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  • Alain Vezina

    Is this legal? I mean after we bought the Iphone, I should be the owner of the phone??!! Why should I have to unbriked it again? In case of a new GSM provider in Canada, how does it gonna works? What if i go in europe for the summer and i want to put a new Sim card… how doest it work?

  • Alain Vezina

    Is this legal? I mean after we bought the Iphone, I should be the owner of the phone??!! Why should I have to unbriked it again? In case of a new GSM provider in Canada, how does it gonna works? What if i go in europe for the summer and i want to put a new Sim card… how doest it work?

  • Jesse David Hollington

    For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it’s normal state also requires “re-activation” each time you change SIM cards — unless you’ve unlocked it of course.

    With AT&T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself — no visit to an AT&T or Apple Store was required.

    If you inserted a non-AT&T SIM card (or a non-AT&T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple’s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.

    Presumably, since Rogers is using an “Activation-only” version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations — hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.

    Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear. Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.

  • Jesse David Hollington

    For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it’s normal state also requires “re-activation” each time you change SIM cards — unless you’ve unlocked it of course.

    With AT&T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself — no visit to an AT&T or Apple Store was required.

    If you inserted a non-AT&T SIM card (or a non-AT&T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple’s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.

    Presumably, since Rogers is using an “Activation-only” version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations — hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.

    Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear. Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.

  • Jesse David Hollington

    For the record, the current iPhone v1.0 in it’s normal state also requires “re-activation” each time you change SIM cards — unless you’ve unlocked it of course.

    With AT&T, if you had legitimately swapped out your SIM card (ie, AT&T had sent you a new one), this activation simply occurred automatically the next time you connected the device to iTunes yourself — no visit to an AT&T or Apple Store was required.

    If you inserted a non-AT&T SIM card (or a non-AT&T iPhone SIM card, based on the IMEI numbers in Apple’s database), you would be told the phone could not be activated. If you inserted an inactive AT&T SIM card, you would be taken through the sign-up process again online.

    Presumably, since Rogers is using an “Activation-only” version of iTunes (which really seems to be a normal full-fledged iTunes application with some activation code thrown in and a parameter to prevent any normal iTunes sync operations — hence activation only), the same would apply to using your normal copy of iTunes 7.7 at home when changing SIM cards.

    Whether iTunes will simply check for a valId Rogers SIM card or whether it will check to confirm that there is an account in place for that SIM card remains to be seen, but this may not be as onerous a process as we fear. Chances are it will just make sure any SIM card you insert is active on a Rogers account of some form, and possibly take you through a Rogers account sign-up process if not (assuming Apple will have even bothered to implement such a thing) or tell you to call Rogers to get your SIM card activated for an account/plan.

  • Jesse David Hollington

    Oh, and if you wanted to go to Europe and put in a different SIM card, you’d be out of luck. The iPhone will be locked at the hardware level, in the same way as any other GSM phone.

    This part is really nothing Apple-specific either… The “activation” stuff adds a second level, but the SIM lock works the same as it does for any other phone Rogers sells. NONE of them can be used with non-Rogers SIM cards without getting them unlocked.

  • Jesse David Hollington

    Oh, and if you wanted to go to Europe and put in a different SIM card, you’d be out of luck. The iPhone will be locked at the hardware level, in the same way as any other GSM phone.

    This part is really nothing Apple-specific either… The “activation” stuff adds a second level, but the SIM lock works the same as it does for any other phone Rogers sells. NONE of them can be used with non-Rogers SIM cards without getting them unlocked.

  • John

    I just left a Telephone booth in toronto with a 16gb white iphone… took forever as I was first in line at 8am and just got it ”activated about 30 minutes ago”… THey couldn’t unbrick it at the store no idea why and told me to go home plug it into itunes and it should work… i plugged it in and no luck… anyone know how to do the home unbricking?

  • John

    I just left a Telephone booth in toronto with a 16gb white iphone… took forever as I was first in line at 8am and just got it ”activated about 30 minutes ago”… THey couldn’t unbrick it at the store no idea why and told me to go home plug it into itunes and it should work… i plugged it in and no luck… anyone know how to do the home unbricking?

  • Kevin

    Weird… I have activated a phone and changed sim cards without having to re-unbrick…

  • Kevin

    Weird… I have activated a phone and changed sim cards without having to re-unbrick…

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