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Rogers iPhone 3G Data Rates: Cheaper Than Expected?

by Gary on June 17th, 2008

*Edit: Sorry guys, I just got home from work and it should be $30 for 300MB, not 30MB. My apologies for the the typo!!!**

Many people out there want to find out some real important info from Rogers and Fido prior to signing their lives away to a 3 year contract for the upcoming iPhone 3G: What will wireless data rates be like?

Well according to a few news reports, Rogers Chief Operating Officer, Nadir Mohamed told Bloomberg that Rogers plans on switching to pricing that “drives adoption” and we will soon see “more value” in data plans. This all took place in Toronto at a news conference, where Rogers announced a 47 percent increase in Q1 wireless data sales–a hint that Canadians love their data, even if they’re being gouged for it.

Yesterday, Nadir also stated, “web browsing is real…it’s happening on mobile broadband and our pricing will change to reflect that … You will see more value in our pricing as we go forward.” So that confirms folks that Rogers plans on revealing some REAL data plans to Canadians that will make sense with the new iPhone 3G launch.

What about when it comes to Rogers and their high data rates? Mohamed’s answer was that their current rates were designed for an era of cellphones that focused on voice conversations and text messages, and that it was unfair to criticize Rogers for that. “Every time we’ve had a change, we’ve had pricing to reflect that change.”

So maybe we will give Rogers the benefit of the doubt, and we can assume that new rates will reflect a fair price for wireless usage–(insert loud, incredibly nasally Borat voice) NOT! Who are we kidding, we’ve seen extremely high rates over the years in terms of both voice and data–why would they want to change their model now?

Wireless subscribers have gone down for Rogers and they will most likely try to counter that loss through mass usage of wireless data. If rates are reasonable as stated, I can see how many people would jump on and surf away. Sure, let’s say we get a decent data plan. If it’s a capped plan, and the penalties for exceeding megabytes is quite severe, that’s another area where Rogers can reap in the profits. Does $0.05/kb ring a bell to anyone here?

However, if Canadians continue to receive Rogers branded handsets that are crippled (HTC Touches with WiFi disabled comes to mind) by Rogers so users are forced to pay for data, I can see revolts happening in the streets. I’m talking people walking around with 2×4’s stuck with rusty nails on the end. Let’s hope wireless spectrum bidding will actually create some new mobile competition in this country.

Until these new data plans are released, there’s no point in speculating about all the different pricing schemes we’re hearing about on the internet. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. These prices were “confirmed” by a Rogers rep, and relayed to me via Twitter (thanks minell!):

$30 for 300MB
$60 for 1GB
$100 for 6GB

See what I mean? I bet somewhere out there some Rogers employees are having so much fun spreading “news” to everyone about pricing. But until we see something official released, don’t believe everything you hear. But then again, if it’s on the internet, it must be true! ;)

What do you guys predict will arise out of these “new rates” coming our way? Are you excited yet?

Read: The Star, Bloomberg

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  • trance
    IPhone, too little and too late.
  • Babahax
    ***FYI ALL***
    Rogers has a $30 for 6GB plan which is only good until the end of August. You must sign for a 3 year contract but if you decide to cancel at a later date, you only pay $5 for each remaining month.

    Cheers!
  • smaclle
    For every one of us choosing NOT to buy the iPhone to boycott Rogers, there are 200 screaming, rich teenagers who are camping out to get the first one. Yes, only the ignorant will be in line to buy on the 11th, but there are a LOT of those sort of people. Until Telus goes GSM (which is rumored to be in 2009), Rogers will continually screw us. Whether you bend over or not, it's coming. There are a million pathetic teenagers who want to look cool because they have one.

    I hope Telus comes to the table. Then Rogers can take their ball and go home.
  • Yep, I'm another one boycotting those f'd up plans. Screw Rogers.
  • Ron
    Those plans are appalling. I won't be buying one. We should all boycott it until Rogers realizes they can't exploit their monopoly and rip us off! unfortunately there are probably enough stupid people with more money than brains who want to have the cool device and they will just pony up and fill Roger's pockets.
  • Rico
    What a shame. Roger's f*cks Canadians once more.

    $60 gets me 400 whole MB. Wow. That's great.

    Considering the iPhone is built around web surfing and considering a generally plow through 400 MB of data in less than 4 days, this plan is nothing short of crap. Let's not forget the addition $0.50 (!!!) per data over and you're as good as new.

    Meanwhile AT&T iPhone G3 customers will get UNLIMITED internet for $30.

    Well, so much for my interest in the iPhone - they've just lost another customer as well as most of the people I've spoken to in my office today.

    Ted Rogers can continue to screw Canadians until the government declares them a monopoly which, for the sake of all of us, will hopefully happen sooner rather than later.
  • Iphone plans launched refer to:

    http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-prod...

    For all the information. Tables don't copy well into here, so just click the link.
  • Michael
    Last time I checked there was some legal type around that $7 a month that only refers to rogers approved sites or using their shitty little branded browser. Maybe they have updated that since, but that is the way it was before.

    And it isn't $7 a month for unlimited data. It is $7 a month for mobile browsing. As a supposed rogers rep you should know the difference.

    Ignorant rude remarks come with the same reply. If you really are a rogers rep you represent that company very poorly.
  • Thomas
    Well, if you think you need a new job to pay the bill on an N95 than either you have a shitty job or have no clue what you're talking about. The N95 only costs an extra $7/month for unlimited data used through the mobile browser or it is included in 2 add-on packages that MOST youth consumers subscribe to anyway which means it's essentially free... So if you can't afford free or worst case scenario $7/month than I suggest you get yourself a new job whether you're buying an iphone or an N95 or not!
  • webterractive
    And start looking for another job just to pay your phone bill!
  • webterractive
    Here's the reality about the iPhone in Canada: Rogers Wireless is targeting the iPhone like they've targeted their other high end phones, N95 and Blackberry Curves as nothing more then devices that enable people to post on Facebook at high 3G speeds. The iPhone is no different since Rogers is hoping that many dumb teens and adults will purchase the iPhone based on the esthetics and mainstream use of the device then its actual enterprise benefits that Apple had designed it for. So stand in line an be the first to pay the most monthly so everyone thinks you're cool cause you have an iPhone.
  • Thomas
    Sorry about not posting a link. It's a bulletin from a dealer site. Can't link to it. Need to login and whatnot. Didn't mean to come off as rude either, just trying to get the point across that those plans are available, not that it makes a difference to you now because you have unlimited until the 11th. For future reference though, I won't be posting anything until it's officially announced on our dealer site.

    So when I post the iphone plans when they're announced.. You can be confident that it's correct!
  • Thomas
    I forgot to add that I did not post ANYTHING that was heresay. I don't post heresay. What's the point in posting something that is likely not true. All I posted was straight facts. So please don't post saying I posted heresay when you don't know. For one it makes me look bad (but only until people realize I'm right!) and for two it makes you look bad when you realize I'm right!
  • Rob
    I agree with some of the other posts. Anything short of unlimited data for $60 will be very disappointing and upsetting.

    In fact there should be a class action law suit filed for the severe price gouging we've had to endure relative to the US.

    We certainly need more competition up here, we should open our markets to the US telecoms to put the Canadian companies back in their place. Shame on you Ted.
  • Mike
    Thomas I don't think anybody is discrediting you but facts are facts and all your info you posted is strictly heresay. You need to back everything up with legitimate proof.

    You may feel the info you posted is correct for whatever reason but the rest of us would look like knobs if we took your word for it - even if we believe you work at rogers. And to that point if you did your job would be in jeopardy for acting on promises like the one you just posted to mopie above.

    My friend - the proof is in the pudding not the bowl.
  • Thomas
    Why would my job be in Jeopardy. If he gives me his phone number and postal code and gives me permission to make changes to his account, than that would be doing exactly what my job description entails... and I don't see why I would ever be fired for that!

    Also, I gave you legitimate proof. I posted a bulletin from the Rogers sales site and I offered to make the changes to his account for him. I don't think you can get any more legitimate than actually putting the plan on his account for him.

    Anyone that wants any of those plans added to their account just ask. They are the Rogers plans and if you really don't believe me, let me add it for you. Or call the call center back and talk to the lovely lady who told you they didn't exist and I'm sure she'll add it for you, because they do!
  • Thomas
    Actually, it is true. Those plans take affect today that would be why she told you they didn't exist yesterday. You shouldn't comment on things when you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You can call and talk to all the Rogers reps that you want and you still wouldn't have a clue. For one, the customer service Reps are very poorly trained and their mostly idiots. For two, you can easily misunderstand someone over the phone.

    I'm at work right now... give me your cell number and postal code and I'll gladly add any of those plans to your account for you!

    I'll even put it on a 3 year term for you. Don't try to discredit me when you have no idea what you're talking about... Those are the new data plans whether you like it or not. I never said they are for sure the iphone plans, but they are definately 100% the new Rogers data plans and they are available right now!

    Thomas
  • mopie
    It's not true.. at least according to the rogers data rep i just spoke with.
    My unlimited data promo thing (htc tytn phone) ends tomorrow so I called to get in on this new plan.
    She said nope, no new plans yet. they have them ready to go, but they need to re-figure something out, (she didn't go into detail here). but we did talk about the plans listed above.
    She said those will probly get better when they are fully released on July 11.
    However she did extend my unlimited data bonus promo till the iphone is out.

    so we sit and wait.
    theMopie
  • Alain Vezina
    Is this true or not? Can't find this on rogers!
  • Thomas
    coincidental that iphone is launching and that that bulletin was posted reminding us of the vision discount qualifying SOCs
  • Thomas
    Or you can get ziphone, change your IMEI to the IMEI of a regular 3G cell phone and add the unlimited mobile browsing plan and access the internet all you want unlimited.... I do about 10-20mb/month for 7$ right now and thats just through a shitty mobile browser.

    As far as the Rogers data plans go... I don't know the prices but within the vision pricing there will for sure be a 50mb, 200mb, and 500mb plan. not sure if this qualifies for the iphone yet though...

    SOC
    Description

    VIS 10MB0
    Rogers Vision Mobile Internet Plan

    VIS 10MB10
    Rogers Vision Mobile Internet Plan

    VIS 10MB3Y
    Rogers Vision Mobile Internet Plan

    VIS 500MB
    Rogers Vision Plan 500 MB

    VISWAP3Y
    On-Device Browsing

    VISWAP3Y1
    On-Device Browsing

    VP15R3Y
    Value Pack

    VP20R3Y
    Value Pack

    VSN200MB
    Rogers Vision Plan 200 MB

    VSN50MB
    Rogers Vision Plan 50 MB

    Thats taken from a bulletin that lists all the vision SOCs that qualify a 3G phone for discounted pricing... there is no reference to the iphone in the bulletin, but seems too coincidental to me...
  • Exactly. Everywhere else in the world has a reasonable data plan. I remember reading a study that says of all first world countries in the world, Canada has the highest mobile phone rates, the highest mobile data rates and the worst possible plans.

    ...and this was when they still had City Fido!
  • eason
    In Hong Kong, if you pay $400 (around $50 canadian), you can almost talk all you want plus unlimited date, voice mail, text...etc. come on canada!
  • ali
    $50 unlimited data
  • Ron
    So what does that translate to in real world usage? On average how many webpages can you access per GB?
  • If I can share my 6GB for $100 across a family plan which also has shared minutes, that might not be too bad. Do the mobile email/casual browsing and save the heavy lifting (e.g. iTunes video/movie downloads) for home or for wifi. I wonder how long it would take 6GB amongst, say 3 phones, to be chewed up with MobileMe photo/file uploads/downloads?
  • Mopie
    They still don't get it.
    I've had many a conversation with Rogers reps across the past 8 months. I bought a HTC Tytn and constantly complained to them about lack of reasonable data rates.
    3 months ago some plans changed and either as a legit deal or just to get me to shut the hell up, they gave me 3 months unlimited data.
    Which has been super good, however, when the 3 months is up, I have a 2 meg a month allotment.
    I've recently spoken to another rep about this and let them know that;

    1) this is total BS since the rogers website itself (when visited via my phone) is a 950k download just to get to the main page. and ;

    2) I have installed a bandwidth monitor on my phone and let them know that I have been surfing about 9gig a month. So what can they offer me.
    Very little they said.

    I'm willing to pay for data. Sure I use it, it costs money on their end, whatever.
    Make it reasonable and for the love of Pete give us an unlimited option.

    I think the bottom line is, just stop screwing us and pretending like you don't know about it.



    theMopie
  • Troy
    $30 for 300MB!? That's still a HORRIBLE ripoff! There should be NO data plan under 1GB.

    $30 for 1GB
    $60 for 3GB
    $100 for 10GB

    While still a ripoff, seems much more appropiate.
  • There's nothing wrong with our mobile data infrastructure. It's perfectly fine for the amount of people in Canada. It's just that there is no GSM competition for Rogers since Fido was swallowed up years ago. They have no reason to give us cheaper prices so they just don't. It's a serious douche move for them not to offer the same deals as the States.
  • @Mike
    The iPhone will keep track of the data usage, just like minute usage within the phone, then you can reset it at the end of the month if you want
  • FAH-Q
    Will it be possible to use the 3g iphone on the pay as you go plan? I dont care about mobile internet, and i hardly ever use a cell phone, so a $100 yearly voucher pay as you go sounds good enough for me.
    I can just use wifi on the iphone for my internet.
    So anyone know if this will be possible?
  • One thing to keep in mind is the Vision plans -- They use a HELLUVA lot of data with 2way video? Perhaps this type of plan-style will come about for specifically the iPhone usage too? Okay, perhaps it's wishful thinking...

    I do know that Apple had a lot to say about how AT&T priced their data plans to ensure a solid adoption by an exclusive company in the states. I'm sure they will have some influence on the other 21 countries where they're rolling out exclusive iPhone offerings as well.
  • As Tyler mentioned above, the current rumor going around on HoFo is $30 for 300MB, not 30MB. This isn't cheap, but it's a huge leap from the current $25 for 4MB.
  • Sporadik
    well said Ed Lau, couldn't say it better myself

    we've now fallen way behind the rest of the world with our services in Canada because of greedy companies and little competition, and its sad. When I read how much higher data rates are over here compared to places like Rwanda I felt like throwing poop at someone
  • scott
    If it costs $100 for 6GB, IÂ’m going to shit bricks and throw them at whoever is responsible.

    i hope you're stocking up on fibre-rich foods to start shitting those bricks out. there's not a hope in hell that any mobile service provider in canada, with our stone-age mobile infrastructure, can support an unlimited data plan.

    i can't even begin to count the ways that rogers is going to fuck this up.
  • Tom
    "Can you monitor how much data your using? or do you wait for a whopping bill at the end of the month. I would be curious to see how a 300 MB plan would do.
    I hope the emails are free (like blackberry) for gmail, yahoo etc. Time will tell"

    well when i was on the phone with a lady talking about my bills, she mentioned that rogers would get an update on the website for your phone's information every 24 hours... so if you're a customer of rogers hispeed internet you know you can view your bandwidth online... well with this new feature which will come as of july she said you will be able to track your minutes and all this crap online easyer.
  • Tom
    LOL if those are the prices for the data plan the iPhone can go fuck itself.
  • Mikey twit
    Rogers bought out AT&T's stake in what used to CANTEL/AT&T Canada years ago(I think almost 10 years ago) and Rogers swallowed up Fido about 7-8 years ago. Sorry if I came off rude.
  • Amanda/MANDUH
    sorry guys, no need to be rude... I live in a small area and Fido isn't even offered around here so I had no Idea they were the same company.... I thought Rogers was owned by AT&T... arg now I really look like a hick haha
  • Mikey twit
    " Comment by Amanda/MANDUH
    2008-06-17 08:32:00

    I definitely think the prices will be lower than first thought because now Rogers has some competition when it come to the iPhone. If Fido will have cheap rates for the iPhone that will push Rogers to as well"

    Fido is owned by Rogers!! How will there be competition if Rogers tells Fido what to charge? Check your info first.
  • I will go ballistic if there isn't an unlimited data plan in place by July 11th. I shit you not...I will find and beat whoever is responsible for our absurd data rates. The Americans get $60 unlimited everything! They have phones here in Japan that have better services than what I have at my house in Canada...why on earth can't we get something decent?

    If it costs $100 for 6GB, I'm going to shit bricks and throw them at whoever is responsible.
  • Mike
    Can you monitor how much data your using? or do you wait for a whopping bill at the end of the month. I would be curious to see how a 300 MB plan would do.
    I hope the emails are free (like blackberry) for gmail, yahoo etc. Time will tell.
  • rob
    @Amanda/MANDUH
    Are you kidding? Fido is owned by Rogers.

    Just like Solo is owned by Bell and Koodo is owned by Telus.

    But on topic, anything less than an unlimited data plan will be a disappointment.
  • I believe it's $30 for 300mb not 30mb
  • Amanda/MANDUH
    I definitely think the prices will be lower than first thought because now Rogers has some competition when it come to the iPhone. If Fido will have cheap rates for the iPhone that will push Rogers to as well
  • relyt
    ummm.... fido and rogers are the same company, Amanda
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