Apple’s 2018 iPhone Line Up to Use Face ID, as Touch ID Will Retire Says KGI


According to the latest research note from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo (and Apple product crystal ball holder), Apple will reportedly adopt Face ID and abandon Touch ID for next year’s iPhone line up.

The research note issued this evening, as reported by 9to5Mac, says while Apple currently faces production issues with Face ID components, 3D sensing is predicted to be a “key selling point” for all 2018 iPhone models. The analyst says Apple will “capitalize on its clear lead in 3D sensing design and production for smartphones.”

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Kuo predicts Apple will abandon Touch ID in favour of Face ID and 3D sensing for all upcoming iPhone models, leveraging its full-screen design against competitors.

The analyst says while some Chinese OEMs may implement fingerprint readers underneath smartphone displays in 2018, he doesn’t see the feature gaining popularity due to high costs involved. As for Android competitors, Kuo believes companies have shifted their focus towards 3D sensing to compete with Apple, instead of embedded fingerprint displays or readers placed on the back.

An earlier report today by the Nikkei Asian Review claimed iPhone X production is still struggling because of bottlenecks involving makers of the TrueDepth camera, the backbone of Face ID.

Tonight’s report by Kuo echoes a similar research note issued three weeks ago, which also predicted next year’s iPhones would be dominated with Face ID.

What do you think? Are you ready to ditch Touch ID for Face ID on your next iPhone?


  • It’s Me

    That will be a shame. Other vendors will offer both authentication options. Apple will offer only one. Which one will be seen as missing functionality..? Functionality that Apple has spent heavily promoting as being critical and will be missing from Apple (Touch ID). Even if the face reg on other OEM sucks, that won’t matter.

    I just don’t see how anyone can suggest they will be adding Face ID to the SE line up. It is unquestionably cutting edge tech and therefore cutting edge expensive to include on the cheapo end of the lineup.

  • jabohn

    FaceID is a step back in functionality. I don’t want to have to look at my device to unlock it. People are going to get sore arms from bringing their devices into face viewing range or sore necks from looking down at their devices. To quickly and quietly unlock my device or use Apple Pay, TouchID is the way.

  • Ned K.

    They are not ditching it. They just have no technology to implement it on-screen. I can smell Apple is slowly dying.

  • OliChabot

    What about we wait until we test the product ourselves before making assumptions its a step back ?

  • OliChabot

    I think that an all-screen display and Face ID would be enough for many to switch to a new iPhone. Add a 14 or 15 megapixels sensor and Portrait Mode and you get a Supercycle.

  • So Young

    Touch ID works perfectly so why change to this? I dont think face ID will be as precise and accurate as touch ID are. What about people with visions problems and don’t look the way the phone wants you to look? I guess we’ll see with the new iPhone X before we judge.

  • It’s Me

    Because common sense and the ability to understand rudimentary human movements says it’s a step back.

  • It’s Me

    I think that’s a dream. Supercyles are driven by pent up demand for a major feature, like bigger iPhones. Portrait mode? Magapixel wars? Neither seems like they have nearly enough interest to generate anything like a super cycle. They’d basically be invisible. Maybe all-screen displays, but the interest in the X seems tepid, and I am saying this as some that has used Apple product (and defended them) longer than you’ve likely been alive.

    FaceID is fine. But because it is inferior to Touch ID in measurable ways, no one would kid themselves that just because they don’t have both that they couldn’t have had both and had the best of both.

  • Biggy604

    That’s only if FaceID actually works lol

  • jabohn

    It’s not an assumption when Apple has showed us how it will work. How will it be possible for me to unlock my iPhone without anyone seeing if I have to bring it up to my face? This is something I do and need often. Apple Pay will even require more steps.

  • OliChabot

    why would you need to unlock your phone if you are not looking at it ? You need to unlock your phone when you want to look at something on the phone, I cannot think of a moment where I needed to unlock my phone but not interact with it…

  • jabohn

    I do a lot of mystery shops. I have to follow a script with an app. I often keep the phone out of view with who I’m interacting with. it’s just there in case I forget what to say, like just below the counter. If I bring the phone up to my face, the other person will wonder what I’m doing. With my iPhone 7 I can pull the iPhone out of my pocket and unlock it, having it ready if I need it with no suspicions aroused.

    Similarly, I don’t really need to look at my iPhone with Apple Pay. I pull it out of my pocket with my thumb already on the pad and it goes right onto the terminal to tap. With FaceID I’d have an extra step first.

  • criminal-mind

    If a cop arrests me for whatever reason, they can unlock my phone by shoving it in my face. No good.

  • OliChabot

    I do agree that using Apple Pay would be wierd. You need to put the phone next to the wireless payment station but look at it at the same time ? strange.

  • Quattro