Toronto Lawyer Sues Apple After His MacBook Gets Stolen-Is Apple Responsible?

Toronto lawyer Michael Deverett purchased a MacBook Pro and iPod touch back in 2009. As he returned to his vehicle after stopping at a convenience store, his rear window had been smashed and his Apple goodies stolen. As the Toronto Star reports, Deverett ended up suing Apple:

Deverett sued Apple, claiming that theft rings in the U.S. had been targeting Apple store customers in the same way and Apple had a duty of care to warn store customers of the danger. Apple also serviced Deverett’s stolen computer for someone else even after Deverett called to tell them it was stolen.

In the end, Deverett settled for a $2,300 store credit from Apple and legal costs of $345, but he is not alone in asking whether manufacturers of expensive and coveted merchandise could be doing more to protect customers.

A similar incident revolves around the growing trend of stolen iPhones and iPod touch units at bus stops and around public places. A university professor in Toronto had her iPhone snatched from her hands at a TTC station. Sali Tagliamonte was disappointed with Apple:

She filled out a police report. She suspended her service with Fido and called Apple to report the theft. Although staff at both companies seemed to her to be practiced at offering condolences: “We’re very sorry your phone was stolen,” she was told more than once, they didn’t offer anything else.

In the end, she paid more than $600 for another iPhone.

She complained to Apple: “It’s your civic duty to do something about this,” she told them. She received no response.

In both of these cases, should Apple be held responsible when our precious devices are stolen? When does Apple’s responsibility begin and end for customers? Well, here’s their response to the Deverett’s case, as seen from the statement filed by Apple Canada:

“Apple Canada does not owe a duty of care to customers once they have left its retail store…

It would be next to impossible to warn each customer that, depending on what part of town they may drive to next, they may be the target of a theft. Apple Canada does not owe a duty of care regarding stolen products, in particular if it is not notified by the owner. Apple Canada cannot reasonably foresee any risk of harm to customers when it does not know the product’s intended user or destination.”

I have to agree with Apple here, as much as it hurts to have something stolen from you, regardless of what it is. If your car is stolen, do you blame the auto manufacturer? What do you think? Is Apple responsible for your stolen goods?

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  • BugNo2

    Gary, what if an old lady buys an iPhone on Kijiji for her grand daughter and Apple embarrasses the crap out of them at the store when they come for repair, by confiscating the phone, calling cops? 

    Come on! Apple figured pros and cons of those actions–it’s not about the tech, it’s about resale value of 2nd hand Apple products. Love the site BTW, check it daily… 

  • BugNo2

    What about the embarrassment factor? I do buy Apple stuff on eBay and have no way of knowing if it’s stolen or not. However, if you confiscate it from me at the store and embarrass me in public, can I sue you and your BigBrother system? 

  • BugNo2

    No Sir, you don’t get it. You don’t get the bigger picture. The thief is not going to Apple for repairs. Someone who bought the MacBook on eBay and has no way of knowing it’s stolen DOES go to Apple store for repairs. Apple is not going to embarrass a nice old lady who bought a comp for her granddaughter in front of 100s of witnesses, because then they can be in real legal trouble… 

  • Anonymous

    Crazy people are crazy

  • BugNo2

    Thief didn’t go to Apple for service. The thief knows what Apple is capable, thus the theft. Come on. It was somebody completely else, who bought the thing on eBay and had no clue. I image it to be an old lady on pension. 

  • JA

    Apple doesn’t have a flagging system for stolen products. You report the theft to the police and the police handle it. It’s up to the police to speak to Apple Retail Stores and authorized resellers if they want them to contact the police when/if the stolen device is brought in.

  • Anonymous

    Lojack may help YOU find your laptop, but the question is what would those vendors do to help you? Asus would hang up on you.

  • BugNo2

    I can go either way if they have the tech to detect stolen devices or not. It’s not the tech, but the fact that the thief would not go to Apple store for repairs. Whoever came, bought the stolen laptop off Kijiji/eBay. And Apple knows this. You can’t stop someone on suspicion and make an arrest or confiscate property (even if you know it’s stolen). You have to know beyond shadow of doubt that they knowingly bought stolen goods. There are 100s people in the store, let the gramma go home and if the lawyer really sues us, we give him a store credit–it’s the most profitable move

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the ebay thing, but what about the person that had their laptop stolen in the first place? You’re saying he should be out 2 grand because some old lady at a store shouldn’t be told that she purchased a stolen laptop? No, apple should contact the police, then ask her to help locate who she purchased it from. Then they will help her get a refund from the ebay seller. And honestly are you really that worried about what other people think of you at an apple store? Man if you go youre whole life worried about what people think of you in public, youre gonna do a lot more work than you need to. Who care what people think, especially if the employees dont make a big fuss and just tell you, not the whole store, which is what they would do. They wouldn’t be like “hey everyone this guy is a crook, point and laugh that he got caught!” especially when there’s no proof he/she stole it like in the situation you described.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca Gary

    Yes, until we learn more about that Genius Bar situation, we cannot assume.

    Thanks for reading :)

  • Anonymous

    If you bought it from ebay or kijiji or craigslist w/e, and it’s a stolen item, you can still be charged with possession of stolen property. Your best bet at that point would be to claim innocence and turn over any info regarding the seller you have to the police and let them deal with it. And you’re probably right, having store employee’s confiscate the phone would be embarrassing. But the store should at least turn over contact info for the person that came in with the stolen device to the cops then.

  • BugNo2

    There is no privacy of that kind at Apple store. That is 1
    2) Just by telling me the device is stolen insinuates.
    3) You saw the lawyer getting his way? Well defamation of character lawsuit could be my meal ticket… No? So how do you deal with this better than to turn a blind eye?
    4) Yes, I worry what people think of me–I live amongst people and reputation actually makes or breaks deals, opens or closes doors…

    I KNOW that the tech got a red flag as soon as he scanned the serial number. Then he called the manager. The manager then saw an old lady and made an executive decision to do nothing. I am certain that is what happened. I would do the same if I was the floor manager.

  • BugNo2

    Here is what I believe happened:
    I KNOW that the technician got a red flag as soon as he scanned the serial number. Then he called the manager. The manager then saw an old lady and made an executive decision to do nothing. What can you do? Insult the lady by suggesting she bought a stolen product and is in clear violation of statue? In front of 100s people? Lawyers might be among the crowd, they could tell her she can settle big… I am certain that is what happened. I would do the same if I was the floor manager. Theft under $10,000 is NOT an indictable offense but only a summary offense. So don’t even call the cops, or do, but after the lady leaves–nothing in front of her. So why turn nothing into a defamation of character lawsuit?

  • BugNo2

    After the person leaves the store! Yes, they can do that if they want to see cops who will be annoyed that they are even called for something like this. 

    More over, I can get charged as an associate of The Soprano family, but God help everybody involved when the judge finds me innocent due to lack of evidence! 

    Then I call Mr. Deverett and we subpoena EVERYBODY involved for $40… Agree?

  • Anonymous

    Well yes but its not too often that you’re looking for job oppertunities when you’re visiting an apple store about a broken product. And how do you know she didn’t steal it? thats just being prejudice. Are you implying that if it was a teenage black man in the same situation and you were floor manager you’d let the old lady go but not the young man? Old ladies can be cons too ;) and there is most definitely enough privacy for them to tell you something like that. All it takes is “ma’am, can i have a word with you over there?” (in a corner where there is no one within a foot or two)

  • TheLaw

    - Possession of stolen goods is illegal, regardless of whether you know they’re stolen.
    - The police confiscate the stolen property and return the stolen property to the orginal owner.
    - If you don’t know the person you’re buying your second-hand goods from, you’re taking a risk.
    - If a product has a serial number, it’s rightful owner can be found.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    Hahahaa,I think I’m going to become a lawyer. Sounds like an easy pay day.

    Slam your face into a door and sue everyone! Win!

  • BugNo2

    There are no corners where people are not waiting for something. Apple stores are busy man! 

    No, regardless of what or who it is, I would do nothing. There could of been a Captn. Jack Sparrow standing right in front of me with, shouting: “I AM GLAD I DID IT AND WILL DO IT AGAIN, RAAAR!” and I would still fix his laptop and wish him a good day.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    LOL!

    Maybe in Wonderland.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    +1

  • BugNo2

    Disagree: “Possession of stolen goods is illegal, regardless of whether you know they’re stolen.” That is not the case. You have to prove that I knowingly bought stolen property. Ask eBay lawyers!

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    Who cares about the person who got their stuff stolen. It’s a lesson he’ll never forget. If you’re stupid enough to leave valuable stuff in the open, you deserve to suffer.

  • GetReal

    If the risk of embarrassment over being found with stolen goods is so great, and if you’re too lazy to check to see if the second-hand goods you’re buying from complete strangers are stolen, as your attorney, I suggest you purchase your goods from reputable and verifiable sources from now on.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    No it’s not retarded. It’s not Apple’s responsibility to confiscate stolen property. Plus, maybe the item was purchased by someone and they don’t know it’s stolen. Apple employees will NEVER insinuate that someone has stolen property.

  • Draziguy

    Watch a documentary called “Hot Coffee” and then reconsider this statement. Most of the time, the system works quite well, and the times that we think it didn’t, we often do not have all of the facts.

  • BugNo2

    You Sir, win the Internet! I agree with you 100%

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    Okay I admit it. It was me. I stole the laptop so that I could give Gary a late Christmas gift. :(

  • BugNo2

    You just got served with the lawsuit and if you ignore it, court finds it in favor of plaintiff.
    How do you do nothing??? Just explain that to me?

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    Thus far, I’ve agreed with all of your comments. You are A+.

    Based on some of your comments, you seem to be a person that may know what GCRM is. Correct?

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca Gary

    Turns out that MacBook Pro you gave me was really a Dell Inspiron with an Apple sticker over the logo. Thanks bud.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    :-D

  • BugNo2

    Funny that, because I talked to eBay legal team and they told me a different story. Also I talked to Apple marketing team and they told me Apple products have gigantic resale value on sites just like eBay.
     Besides your suggestion is “post factum”, I hired you to defend my character in court of civil litigation. Are you saying I would not have the case? Ok, give me my retainer back and have a good no-pay-day Sir!

  • BugNo2

    Yes Sir, I frequent Glasgow Centre for Reproductive Medicine Fertility IVF Clinic. I am well aware of them. 

    P.S. Swear to God thats the first thing that popped in Google  :D

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca Gary

    My goodness, it seems you and BugNo2 have really hit it off with your knowledge of this secret society lingo. You guys are lighting up the comments. 

    BugNo2, you win the unofficial commenter of the day award! :)

  • ThatGuy

    A credit card can be flagged stolen within seconds of the customer calling, once swiped it will be declined, how will it take any longer? They have the serial number and owner information on file, would it really be that hard or time consuming to enter a serial number (which I’m sure they already do) and hold it and contact the registered owner? Really?

  • BugNo2

    Gary, thank you for the “The person most likely never to get laid again” award. It’s what I always wanted.
    :D

  • BugNo2

    Thats because a CC doesn’t belong to me, but the CC company.
    You take my laptop which rightfully paid for AND you accuse me of being in possession of stolen goods and we have a serious problem if one of 100,000 lawyers in this city thinks I have a case. I imagine not having to interview more than ONE.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/ Ex

    Hahaha not quite.

  • Anonymous

    Can we go back to basis here: if you leave your stuff in plain view in your car, then YOU’RE faulty. That’s that. Now the lady: of course life is not fair… somebody stole the iPhone she was proudly showing off while walking… It’s sooo sad… 
    Grow up people and stop whining

  • Common_Sense

    Before anything, why the hell you leave a $2000+ Macbook Pro inside the car in the first place?

    You are asking for anyone to break in your car. The lawyer should be sued for his stupidity.

  • http://www.iphoneincanada.ca Gary

    +1

    It’s like if your kid leaves their iPhone 4S in plain sight at school and someone steals it–it’s the kid’s fault for not being responsible and protecting his/her belongings. You wouldn’t suddenly blame Apple!

  • Kevinroach

    1. It’s not Apple’s fault if your slow in the head
    2. Seriously? We are Canadian, act like a mature adult and go through car insurance
    3. A lawyer? Bill a few more hours and buy another computer.
    4. Seriously?

  • Anonymous

    I agree that whoever is stupid enough to do that (especially a lawyer, you’d think they’d be smart enough) doesn’t deserve anything by apple, but when the stolen laptop comes into an apple store you’d think they’d at least be a bit suspicious aha. When it comes down to it, ultimately I agree that its the person who lost its fault. But apple should help a little bit when it comes into their store and its FLAGGED.

  • Papineau

    Lets not overcomplicate the issue: According to basic rule of law: One is innocent until proven guilty. Therefore, apple has no authority to confiscate the given device as it cannot beyond doubt prove that the person present stole it or bought it online from the given criminal.
    The most that apple should do would be to deny service to the suspected device.

  • Anon

    Delay time?  LMAO!  We are talking milliseconds to scan a database of stolen serial numbers.

  • Anon

    @BugNo2.  You need to read up on Canadian criminal code.  Particularly the section on “possession of stolen property”. 

  • Anon

    @BugNo2.  You should be more concerned about getting the money back from the a-hole that sold you the stolen goods.  Point is, you are in possession of a stolen property, and legally it isn’t yours whether you purchased it or not. 

  • Anon

    If you can prove you unknowingly purchased the stolen goods, then you won’t get charged.  But regardless, the police can and will confiscate the stolen property.  And doesn’t matter if you purchased it.  Stolen goods are stolen goods, and the onus is on you to get the money back from the prick that sold you it.

  • Anonymous

    BugNo2: if you have bought stolen goods unknowingly, you won’t be charged.  But that stolen goods is NOT yours, even you “paid” for it (and definitely NOT “rightfully paid” as you claimed, since the seller was committing a fraud).   In this case, you can only go after the ebay seller.

    Embarrassment?  Well, you have bought stolen goods after all, haven’t you?  Take it as a lesson learned and be wiser next time…. [shrug]

  • Anon

    @BugNo2.  You are a thief’s wet dream.  Let all ‘turn a blind eye’ to stolen goods.  Idiot.