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Unlocked iPhone 4 Price Predictions for Canada: $649/$749
Yesterday Apple announced some major news for people in Canada, the UK, and France–the iPhone 4 will be sold unlocked when you buy it outright. What’s so significant about this?
Benefits of Purchasing an Unlocked iPhone and Going Contract-Free
For starters, when you travel you’ll be able to pop in a SIM card from your travel destination and talk for dirt cheap, at a fraction of what it would cost to roam internationally. Have you seen what Rogers, Telus, and Bell charge when you’re overseas or out of the country? Just call them and ask.
Also, a factory unlocked iPhone will retain a higher resale value versus a phone locked to a specific carrier. So when it comes time to upgrade to the iPhone 5 (or whatever it will be called), just put your phone up on eBay and you’ll make top dollar. Don’t believe me? Just check eBay listing for factory unlocked iPhones originating from Hong Kong or Italy. There’s a massive, thriving aftermarket for your factory unlocked phone.
Another benefit is you get to avoid re-signing the dreaded 3 year contracts from Rogers, Telus, and Bell. Sure, you won’t get the subsidized pricing up front, but the freedom of not being tied down is priceless.
If the ‘Big 3’ decide to make changes to your plan while you’re on contract, you will have no choice but to accept them. But when you’re contract free with an unlocked iPhone–you will be able to jump to whatever carrier/plan you wish–without paying a penalty (assuming you’re on a month to month plan, and not on contract). Need to move suddenly out of the country?–no problem! No cancellation fees here, folks! 🙂
Unlocked iPhone 4 Price Predictions for Canada
We haven’t heard what the outright unlocked prices will be for Canadians. To put unlocked prices in perspective, let’s take a look at what people are paying in France and the UK (prices reflect their VAT?) before we make our educated guess:
France:
16GB iPhone 4: 629 € = $795 CDN
32GB iPhone 4: 739 € = $934 CDN
UK:
16GB iPhone 4: £499 = $758 CDN
32GB iPhone 4: £599 = $910 CDN
Unlocked iPhone 4 pricing in Canada:
- 16GB iPhone 4: $649 CDN
- 32GB iPhone 4: $749 CDN
How did we come up with this? We analyzed the historical prices of iPhones in Canada (our prediction for iPad pricing in Canada was pretty much spot on).
2009 prices of outright iPhones in Canada:
8GB iPhone 3G: $599
16GB iPhone 3GS: $699
32GB iPhone 3GS: $799
2010 prices of outright iPhones in Canada:
8GB iPhone 3GS: $549 (-$50 price drop)…this latest price drop should also apply to the new iPhone 4 leaving us with the following outright, unlocked prices:
- 16GB iPhone 4: $649 CDN
- 32GB iPhone 4: $749 CDN
So really, in 2010 we will be paying $50 less for an outright iPhone from Apple–but this time around, the darn things are factory unlocked! Now that’s what you call ‘the cherry on top’. All we need now is the iPhone 4’s date of arrival in Canada. Here’s to crossing our fingers for July 23rd/30th (or earlier!) and no delays like down South!
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if it's truely $649 for unlocked one, that's the greatest price that canadians have ever had considering the history of apple's pricing.
since i will be using my phone plan anyhow and my plan is great as $37 for data&talk, i don't see any benifits i can get from the outright phone. my only concern about iphone 4 is those carriers allow us unlock officially since we are already locked into the 3 year contract. just like o2 in uk and Australian carriers are doing. i dont need to worry my roaming charge if i am out of the country.
Is the $37 plan that you have a standard plan or did it come from a retention deal? What carrier? What is included?
I don't know how good an unlocked phone is going to be. Personally, I do some travelling and all of my travelling SIM cards (pre-paid and with me at all times) are..well, SIM cards and NOT micro-SIM. Landing in a new country and shopping for carriers that carry micro-SIM card may be a pain in the neck (especially after that airplane journey!)
My two cents, paisas and shillings (you know for travelling needs!)
Weeee! And thank you for not calling it the iPhone “4G”. That whole “generation” thing is the worst conceived acronym ever, dating back to the first iPods. It causes nothing but confusion between generation, memory capacity, and cellular standards.
the challenge is finding carriers who carries micro sim for the iPhone 4.
Do any of the carriers offer a data plan that doesn't require both a voice plan and a 3-year contract? Even if you own the phone outright, Rogers (to my knowledge, at least) won't allow a data plan unless you sign a 3-year contract.
Contract is great for me. Its cheaper and for the 3-4 times a year i do travel i just increase my international calling features with the retention department at Robbers.
If you buy it outright at a Rogers or Bell, is it still unlocked or locked to that Carrier??? Also, can we buy them at Best Buy when it comes out???
Anyone called a carrier (Rogers,Fido,Bell,Telus…) and asked if they will sell the Iphone 4 locked or unlocked ?
I personally don't think they need to lock it … the deal is with the contract not the Iphone 4 since we can buy it unlocked anyway !
it's $17.5 killer offer(200mins, unlimited talk 5pm-8am) + $10 150MB + SAF+911+TAX = $37 it's not a standard plan and i add caller id+voicemail+200 SMS for total about $50. still cheaper than standard plan. the great thing is i can cancel those add-ons anytime i want.
i got it 3 years ago from fido. i don't think they offer this anymore……i really like my phone plan actually.
I bet it's a retention plan.
The value of being out of contract or close to out of contract is not in the ability to switch carriers, it's in ability to negotiate a good retention plan with your current carrier. No “new customer” plan will ever be as good as a well negotiated retention plan. Plus the whole “If the Big 3 decide to change your contract you are stuck with it” thing is not entirely correct. You can change to any “in-service” plan at any time without extending your contract, I've done it twice in the last year, before getting my retention plan.
“Sure, you won’t get the subsidized pricing up front, but the freedom of not being tied down is priceless.”
Well, it's not really priceless, it has a very hefty pricetag attached to it – you pay about $400 more for it (don't forget the taxes you have to pay on the differece). Plus, if you are sitting on your contract waiting for it to end (so that you are “free”), you are easily paying $15-20 a month more comparing to what you would have paid if you were to get a retention plan. Over 3 years (while I am on my “dreaded” retention plan and you are “free” with an unlocked phone), you'd pay $15*36+$400= $940 extra. That's what your “freedom” costs you.
As for the resale value, just search ebay/kijiji/craiglist and you will see that Rogers/Bell/Telus iphones sell just as well.
The only time when it makes financial sense to get a non-subsidized phone is when you are 1-1.5 years into your contract and can't get a retention plan yet.
But always, don't extend your contract by just getting a new phone, renegotiate yor contract first, extend your contract and only then get a new phone.
I just called… and they said that the phone will be locked 🙁
Several months ago I asked Fido about a data plan if I had an unlocked iPhone. I was told that the data plan required a three year contract whether it was my phone or one from them. Hopefully this has changed???
If I already have an iPhone and a contract with Rogers, and want to keep it to its end, can I purchase an unlocked iPhone 4, get a micro-SIM from Rogers, and use this new iPhone 4 in place of my current 3GS for the balance of my existing contract?
From the carrier = locked
On Rogers/Fido, you can get monthly/1/2/3 year data plans
Fido has always had non-contracted data plans.
Yes
I was hoping it would be unlocked through Rogers as well, but after this news, I'll just buy one from the apple store… I also have a kick-ass retention plan from rogers… $67.03 taxes included, that none of the other carriers are interested in matching, even when I show them the paperwork and offer to sign a 3 year contract.
Or bringing an exacto knife on the plane, which I don't recommend. 😉
I don't know why, but I fear Rogers is going to give customers a hard time over this, and come up with some reason why you can't “move” your contract to a new micro-SIM with an unlocked (non-Rogers) iPhone. Just because they can.
most carriers don't support micro-sim so its not that easy to just pop one in and go 😛
Rogers told me this too.
Another benefit to having an unlocked phone: if you have negotiated a better price plan with your carrier, like I have, then you don't have to reset to an “in-market” iPhone plan, which the carriers make you do when you do a hardware upgrade.
This is great news for me…reseting to an in-market iPhone plan would increase my monthly phone cost by about $40, and even with the $749 up-front for the iPhone 4G 32 GB I will save more than $1000 over the course of 3 years!
I've been on pay-as-you-go for years, so retention's not a factor for me.
1. does this mean i can buy an unlocked phone and go with any carrier and not buy data?
2. is there a way this can work with a pay as you go plan?
I'm thinking 679 and 779.
Have you negotiated a retention plan with Rogers? If so, how much time did you have left on your contract? What kind of deal were you able to get? With the retention plan in place, you were able to then upgrade to the latest/greatest iPhone and retain that monthly cost? Any more details you can supply would be appreciated. Thank you!
What does your retention plan from rogers include? Can you provide info on how you were able to score this plan from rogers? Did it include extending your contract? Was it timed to upgrade to the latest/greatest iPhone? Any info appreciated as I'm hoping to make this work for me! 🙂
Rogers definitely does make you sign a contract for data. Or at least they did.
Last year I sold my brother my iPhone3G. He was previously with Bell and switched to Rogers, so he had a clean slate with them. We walked into the Rogers store with the iPhone in hand to get a SIM card but stupid Rogers would only give it to him if he signed 1 year contract. They said it was necessary in order to get a data plan. I felt as though I sold my poor little brothers soul to the devil! Complete garbage if you ask me. At the time, Telus and Bell weren't in the iPhone game though so I wonder if anything has changed?
We don't know if that is for sure the case with the iPhone4 though do we?
It is.
The device is only unlocked when purchased outright from Apple.
Your brother got taken.
Rogers/Fido have had non-contracted data plans since well before the iPhone
days. I am on a non-contracted data plan right now.
Remember, in-store reps make commission. Anything with a yearly amount makes
them $$$. Call Rogers instead.
Do have any confirmation from/or is it mentionned somewhere on the carriers' website ?
Can you please refer a link if it is the case ?
Well there's that Cut My Sim thing; $30 and those traveling sims could be cut down to size.
It's internal and no link is available.
I hate Rogers so much. So… very… much.
Use your hate. Let it flow through you. And then strike Rogers down!!!
/path to the Dark Side
🙂
that's how it's been across the rest of the world before, so it's safe to say it'll happen that way again..
I'm had a contract with Rogers, but it has expired and I'm paying month-to-month. If I get an unlocked iPhone, how can I get Rogers to give me a good month-to-month price that doesn't include the hardware subsidy?
Your month-to-month price will not change. You will continue as you are now.
I agree, i don't mind buying an unlocked phone as im happy with my plan but don't know how long i'll be with rogers so don't want to re-sign for 3 years. Few questions;
1. What are the charges if you do cancel your rogers account after you've gotten a new iphone 4?
2. Does anyone know if you'll be able to get a micro from Rogers and just transfer your number over, which is what i'd like to do?
yeah it is. a micro-sim is the exact same as a regular size, you just have to cut it down. the actual chip isnt any smaller
Hello,
I currently have a 3 year contract with Telus (quebec) with a Blackberry storm.
I decided to unlock my blackberry and sell it on ebay, then go to telus and buy an iphone 4 with them.
Will this work ? Will I need to pay penalities ? Considering i'm not cancelling my contract, I'm just getting a new phone from them..
Thanks in advance for your replies 😉
Well you're either getting the iPhone 4 from Telus on contract or you're
going to the Apple Store to buy it full priced and unlocked.
I work at the apple store and we havent gotten any info as to wether the unlocked phone are for retail and online, or online only so if us apple employees dont know i doubt rogers, fido, bell, etc know
You sure? Checked RNN lately?
😉
I kind of timed it to coincide with the release of the 3G, but Rogers didn't help themselves when they royaly screwed up my account… worked well for me 🙂
I have 250 daytime minutes, unlimited eve/weekends, nationwide my5, iphone value package (including call display, visual voicemail) and 6GB data…
I kind of timed it to coincide with the release of the 3G, but Rogers didn't help themselves when they royaly screwed up my account… worked well for me 🙂
I have 250 daytime minutes, unlimited eve/weekends, nationwide my5, iphone value package (including call display, visual voicemail) and 6GB data…
Is it poissable to unlock my iPhone 3G I bought on full price from fido or not? What if I want to sell it to someone else who has a non-fido SIM card, why don't they offer an option to unlock the phone once the contract ends?
Your contention that if on a contract, you must accept changes for the duration of your contract, is false. If there are changes, you are generally notified in a subtle way (like a note somewhere hidden on page 26 of your bill), and you always have the option to contact your carrier and state that you do not accept the changes to your contract, at which point they must release you from the contract. They don't have to offer you anything better, but they do have to release you.
It's one of the few ways of getting out of early termination fees, it's no wonder why the telcos don't want you knowing about it. But it's contract law, so they have to allow it.