iPhone 4 Launch in Canada FAQ: What Everybody Should Know!

*Last updated on July 31, 2010, 1:18AM*

This Friday, July 30th, is the launch of the iPhone 4 in Canada. You’re excited–we know that. There has been a lot of chatter recently about pricing, Apple Store opening times, upgrades, etc. We’re going to try to consolidate all that information into the following FAQ. Ready? Here we go.

When is the iPhone 4 launching in Canada?
– Friday, July 30, 2010.

Where can I buy an iPhone 4?
1. Any Apple Store
2. Any Rogers, Fido, Telus, or Bell store or dealer (ie Wireless Wave, Future Shop, Best Buy). As a last resort, try Phone Mart (sold out) or Walgreens.

What colours will be available?
– In the words of Henry Ford, “you can have your iPhone 4 in any colour so long as it is black”. White models have been delayed.

How much will the iPhone 4 cost?

Rogers Pricing:
With new activation on a 3-year voice and data plan
NEW 32GB iPhone 4: $269
NEW 16GB iPhone 4: $159
NEW 8GB iPhone 3GS: $99 (before $50 rebate applied on your first invoice – rebate offer starts July 30, 2010)
Device-only pricing (no term)
NEW 32GB iPhone 4: $749
NEW 16GB iPhone 4: $649
NEW 8GB iPhone 3GS: $549

Factory unlocked, contract free pricing (Apple.ca updated 3:13am PST):
16GB: $659
32GB: $779

Will I get a Bumper case with my iPhone 4?
– Yes; if Bumpers run out, you’ll get a 3rd party option

Can I return my iPhone 4 for a full refund if I don’t like it? How long do I have?
– Yes. You have 14 days to get a full refund on undamaged iPhone 4 units.

Will I be charged a restocking fee?
– No.

If I buy my iPhone 4 on contract, will it be locked?
– Yes.

If I buy my iPhone 4 from any carrier at any price, will it be locked?
– Yes.

If I buy my iPhone 4 from an Apple Store on contract will it be locked?
– Yes.

If I buy my iPhone 4 from an Apple Store at full price, will it be unlocked?
– Yes.

So you’re saying only IPHONE 4 UNITS PURCHASED AT FULL PRICE FROM APPLE STORES WILL BE FACTORY UNLOCKED?
– Yes. Thanks for reading.

Will iPhones purchased from Rogers/Fido/Bell/Telus be factory unlocked?
– (double face palm) For the love of god, NO! Please read the above!

What does factory unlocked mean? I’m confused (and scared):
– Factory unlocked means your iPhone will work out of the box with ANY GSM carrier of your choice. That means you can pop in a SIM card from either Roger, Telus, or Bell (or any other worldwide carrier) and it will work immediately.

What are the benefits of buying an unlocked iPhone 4?
1.
Saving money when traveling: just buy a local Pay As You Go SIM card and pop it into your iPhone 4. Voila! Good bye expensive roaming charges.
2. Controlling your life again: you won’t have to resign 3 years with the “Big 3” to get your iPhone. Once you are out of your contract, imagine how great it will feel to be able to switch carriers at a whim–because of better pricing and plans–and not having to accrue expensive cancellation fees.
3. Higher resale value: Factory unlocked iPhones are the holy grails on eBay. There will always be a huge demand for factory unlocked iPhones. Many countries don’t have the iPhone and buying overseas on eBay is their only choice.
4. Upgrading next year will be dead easy: Say the iPhone 5 (or whatever it’s called) is released next year. You purchased the iPhone 4 factory unlocked for $659. You sell your iPhone 4 on eBay (or Craigslist) for $550 (I just checked current completed listings and a 16GB iPhone 3GS was recently sold for $557US). You’re only down $109. That’s cheaper than paying the subsidized carrier $199 price–and you will remain contract free.
5. Worry free iOS updates via iTunes: If your iPhone is unlocked via jailbreaking, every time Apple releases a new iOS update you’re stuck in limbo. You can’t update via iTunes or you’ll lose your unlock. You’re reliant on the iPhone Dev Team for their hard work. Now, if you have a factory unlocked iPhone 4, you can just click update and be on your merry way. The unlock will remain forever. No more waiting.

Will the Apple Store give me a microSIM and help switch me over?
– Yes.

Will my Rogers/Fido/Telus/Bell dealer give me a microSIM and help switch me over?
– Yes. Every iPhone 4 sold will come with one microSIM.

Will Apple.ca sell iPhone 4 units online?
– To be announced.

Will the Big 3 offer the sale of iPhone 4 units online?
– To be announced.

What types of payment does the Apple Store take?
– Credit cards, Interac, cash, Apple Store gift card.

When I do my Rogers/Fido Hardware Upgrade (HUP) at the Apple Store, do I pay for the iPhone 4 in person, or will I be billed to my account??
– Billed to your Rogers/Fido account.

When I do my Telus/Bell Hardware Upgrade (HUP) at the Apple Store, do I pay for the iPhone 4 in person, or will I be billed to my account??
– Pay for the iPhone 4 in person.

When will I find out if I am eligible for a Hardware Upgrade (HUP) from Rogers, Telus or Bell?

Rogers has updated their website regarding HUP. Check here: http://www.rogers.com/iphone.
– *As of 12:30PST, the tool is “incorrect”. Confirmed by Rogers. Some are getting the $649/749 pricing when they shouldn’t be. Stay tuned.

Here are the general guidelines about the iPhone 4 special hardware upgrade:
– Fido: http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/iPhones?iPhone=iPhone4

Did you activate or upgrade your Rogers iPhone on a term contract between January 1, 2009 and June 7, 2010?
Then you’re eligible for at least $250 off the no-term device price. That’s an iPhone 4 16GB/32GB for $399/$499 on a new 3-year voice and data plan.

Did you activate or upgrade the original iPhone 3G in 2008 and then upgrade again between June 19 and September 15, 2009?
You’re also eligible for at least $480 off the no-term device price. You can pick up an iPhone 4 16GB/32GB for $159/$269 on a new 3-year voice and data plan.

Did you activate or upgrade your Rogers iPhone on a term contract on or before December 31, 2008?
Thank you for your business. You’re eligible for at least $480 off the no-term device price. You can pick up an iPhone 4 16GB/32GB for $159/$269 on a new 3-year voice and data plan.

Bell announces iPhone 4 pricing

3 year contract pricing:
16GB iPhone 4: $159.95
32GB iPhone 4: $269.95

iPhone 4 Promotion Details–Including iPad Offer:
-To get the lowest 3-year price on this phone, choose any combination of voice, data plan and features with a minimum value of $50/month.
From July 30 to September 30th get 6GB of data for only $30 per month with unlimited Wi-Fi in over 750 locations including all Starbucks in Canada.*

– Have an iPad too? For an additional $10 per month, you can share the data between both your iPhone 4 and iPad.

– Exclusive Mobile TV offer:
Get access to FREE Mobile TV (data download and usage charges apply) until September 30th and catch full-length episodes of your favourite shows, news, weather, entertainment and sports. Download the Bell Mobile TV app from the App Store to access this service.

*Must be combined with eligible voice plan.

Telus has announced their iPhone 4 pricing:

3 year contract pricing:
16GB iPhone 4: $159
32GB iPhone 4: $269

Outright pricing, locked:
16GB iPhone 4: $649
32GB iPhone 4: $749

Promo offer: Extra 5GB of data for new activations with a voice+data plan of $60 or greater on a 3 year term. Good until Oct. 5/2010

What iPhone 4 plans will be offered by Rogers?
unknown; most likely existing iPhone plans; the 6GB/$30 data plan might come back
– 6GB/$30 data plan is back
– $20 + GRRF for iPad sharing if you’re on the 6GB plan
http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/iphone-4-launches-tomorrow-on-rogers/

What iPhone 4 plans will be offered by Bell?
– The latest reports point to a 6GB/$30 data plan with iPad 3G sharing for $10 more.

What iPhone 4 plans will be offered by Telus?
-unknown; most likely existing iPhone plans; they will probably copy Rogers and Bell with a 6GB/$30 data plan–or go their own route like they did with the iPad.

What time will Apple Stores be opening on July 30th?
– 7AM

What time should I line up? Will there be enough stock to last all weekend?
– The earlier the better. I’d suggest 5am. If you’re looney in the head like this guy, try the night before. iPhone meetup anyone?
– Stock levels will be based on how many people buy the phone on launch day.

What’s the best way to find out up to the date info on the iPhone 4 launch?
– Twitter. Use the hashtag #iphoneincanada and we can all work together on sharing info. Use your local city hashtag to get specific. Vancouver would be #YVR

Where can I find information about local iPhone meetups in my area?
– Stay glued to the iPhoneinCanada.ca Forums.

Other things to consider:
– buying unlocked will be the fastest to get in and out of the Apple Store.
– doing a carrier upgrade/activation will result in more paperwork. Also, the possibility of systems going down (like previous years) could occur so go early.

Are you lining up at the Pacific Centre Apple Store? I’ll be there late Thursday/early Friday and if you come find me I’ll have a free iPhone 4 invisibleSHIELD (and other goodies) for you (until I run out).

Come by and say “hi”, don’t be a stranger! Be sure to follow me on twitter for live updates of where I’ll be and what I’m doing.

What did I miss? Let me know in the comments and I’ll keep this updated.

Founder and Editor-in-Chief of iPhoneinCanada.ca. Follow me on Twitter, and @iPhoneinCanada, and on Google+.

  • Jeepy
  • Kanawati

    The stocks for online buying (http://store.apple.com/ca/) are separeted from the in-store pick-up? Should I worry about not going to the store in person?

    How many days after purchasing Apple delivers the iPhone4 at home?

    The iPhone4 bought online will be delivered with the bumper?

  • Kanawati

    The stocks for online buying (http://store.apple.com/ca/) are separeted from the in-store pick-up? Should I worry about not going to the store in person?

    How many days after purchasing Apple delivers the iPhone4 at home?

    The iPhone4 bought online will be delivered with the bumper?

  • I called tonight and was told it will be standard upgrade pricing. Which means you’re screwed if you got the 3GS at launch. However, they said the same thing last year and changed their mind at the last minute.

  • Jen

    Pricing in Canada for unlocked phones has been confirmed by Apple Canada PR
    http://www.allthingsios.com/home/2010/7/26/confirmed-unlocked-iphone-4.html

  • Nick H

    OMG! Look at this!!!!
    http://www.fido.ca/web/page/portal/Fido/iPhones?iPhone=iPhone4
    I went to the iPhone 3GS order page URL on Fido and deleted 3GS and added 4 at the end. This indicates possibly that you can order a white iPhone 4!!!!
    Take a look and the contract pricing is the same!

  • Khanh

    Lies.

  • Mataio_

    I plan on getting one their too, full price……

  • only downside to doing month to month is that alot of the promotional plans are only given on 3 year terms.

  • Lchan

    I am going to Best Buy as well, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed at 4am. That better guarantee me one! 🙂

  • Whitingrj

    Oops. I made a strange spelling error in my final sentence of that first post. “Geek up the good work” should actually be “KEEP up the good work.” That was *not* intentional, I swear.

  • Turtle

    rogers always says this when you try to get an upgrade. i get an upgrade every year at regular pricing and expect to do so this year in september when i am able to again (for the iphone 4). you just need to know who to speak to. rogers kiosks tend to be the worst place to go. i’m not sure if they’re franchised, or what it is, but their service is TERRIBLE. i usually upgrade at best buy/over the phone and get it mailed.

  • Turtle

    i don’t think that they are uninformed company-wide, more like there are horrible CSAs who don’t care about their job and don’t read the memos and training guides.

    i know a guy who worked as a phone CSA for rogers in metrotown (vancouver) and he had a stack of instructional reading that he never did

  • Turtle

    still has a limit of 1 per customer

  • ShawnV

    Is anyone here buying from Futureshop? I've contacted both ones near me and they still don't know if they will be getting them on release day

  • draz

    Nice job on this Gary!

  • are you sure they'll be giving out free cases? I was thinking they would tell you to claim the case online.

  • BenJamin

    How about online orders? What time do you think those will start? And also, do you think if I order online on friday, I will have to wait for the backorder in the US to clear up before I receive my phone?

  • Arkaine

    Could we possibly add “buying from Apple website”?
    Do we have any information on when it will be available to purchase on the 30th?

  • Tyler

    Henry Ford reference = win

  • Arkaine

    Great minds think a like 😉

  • zach

    hey guys i was wondering if i go to rogers on friday moring i want iphone 4 on my exsiting account now. The only problem is i am not dont my exsiting rogers phone contract. Do you think i will be able to got to the store, buy out my phone, and get the iphone on my exsiting account?

  • kobe

    hey gary i will be coming at pacific mall too around 11 or 12 hopefully i can get the invisible shield for free from you and also if there is a way we can be in contact so when i come there i knw where you are so i knw i am in a correct line cant wait for the launch.

  • ZeZe

    Thanks for all the good info, keep up the good work. I hope all the carriers employees read this so they can all be geniuses.

  • CF

    Hey Gary, are you getting the unlock or carriers iPhone 4?

  • Guys just got off the phone with Rogers and I was advised that everyone who signed a contract before June of this year will be able to upgrade to the iPhone 4!!!! AMAZING NEWS!! at same $199 for 16 or $299 for 32gb!

  • Boobs'n'Guns

    Gary, you missed detailing that the Apple store CAN do the HUP for whatever carrier you have as long as its fido, rogers, bell…

  • PS

    What about doing HUP at Apple store? I'm getting mix information from Apple and Rogers. Apple store says Yes they can do it. Rogers says no, but also say Apple could do it but for unlocked phone only.

    I'm with Rogers and satisfied with the service, I'm planning on staying with them so I don't care much for the unlocked phone. If I'm going to line up somewhere in the early hours on Friday morning I want to make sure I pick the right place.

  • draz

    If you are 2yrs into your contract you can get the cheap prices, otherwise we find out tomorrow on what special offers Rogers will have for those who have not yet reached the 2yr mark into their 3yr contracts

  • draz

    Apple store can do the HUP for you =)

  • 6daniel

    :'( you left out fido 🙁

  • MattyB

    Just got off the phone with Bell and theu informed me that the 16GB will be $159.95 on a 3 year term + $35 activation.

  • Warfanax

    even though you have 2 more years in your contract? When I went to rogers store few months ago they told me that I have to complete min years to be eligible for an update…

  • Houtan_

    lol

  • 6daniel

    i find that hard to believe, isn't it 199$ for 16gb?

  • kabsalsa

    I love the summary. Thanks. I have been checking out posts a number of times each day over the last two weeks….my husband thinks I have gone crazy over iPhone 4 which I think is true. My question that I haven't yet been able to answer is: Are we sure that you can't by an iPhone from Rogers through the phone? I did this for my 3Gs with no problems one year ago and have called Rogers two times this week and have been told I can still buy phones through the call centre. Would sure beat standing in line. However, posts I have seen on this website appear to indicate differently. Some clear info on this would be great. Good luck everyone on Friday.

  • helen

    just curious, does the states get to buy factory unlocked iphone 4 from apple too? i was on apple.com and it seems they hv to get a 2 yr AT & T plan with it. it’s a little weird that canadians can get it commitment free but not americans..

  • Frankco

    I called Rogers earlier today and was told no additional cost upgrade at 2 years, so $199 for the 16Gb and $299 for the 32Gb. I was then told phones with less thaan 2 years could be HUP'd for additional $100 per year. So a 1 year HUP is $299 and less than 1 year HUP is $399 both for the 16Gb. We'll see soon.

  • EDubbb

    Ex,

    I've looked through some of the forums but can't seem to find the answer to my question. If you purchase the iPhone from Rogers or another carrier (not apple), will you be able to get a bumper right then in store, or is that only an option for those who buy it from apple. I know that there is a app that you can download to sign up for a bumper I'm just worried about going an extra week without a protector for it. Let me know!

    And great job keeping people up to date over the last few weeks! It's been really helpful!

  • Solomon

    So Gary this means no online orders on the 30th?

  • Alexg88

    Hi,

    Here is my situation, I am a fido client since at least 6 years and ive got iphone 3g on october of 2008 and since then i bought the iphone 3gs full price… Now i was wondering something.

    Im not quite sure to understand everything. When you say that apple store CAN do HUP does it means i can go there and get a HUP with fido?… like HUP paying the 779$ or HUP paying the 299$???
    Or if i decide to go wait at Fido Store downtown Montreal is it possible that they only get 5 of each like some people said or since its in one the big city in canada they'll get more…
    I just wanna go wait at the right place to make sure i have one!

    Thank you very much :)!

  • macourteau

    How about Fido? I know it's probably the same as Rogers, but it'd be nice to see it in there 🙂

  • MattyB

    I did interact with the rep and ask about the $199 and he said no $159 he assured me.

  • Holly

    Hmmm, think you may have convinced me to buy unlocked, if you really think it will sell at a premium next year. Anyone else swayed?

  • Shaun

    I literally JUST hung up the phone with Bell. My previous 3 year contract expired yesterday so I'm taking it as a sign to get my first iphone!
    So of course I asked the CSA about the iphone and he had zero details about prices but I asked him “it does come out on the 30th, right?” His response, “no, the 31st.” WTF?? Do they really know that little this close to launch?
    Also, I'm still unsure about getting a locked or unlocked one but this helps a lot. Thanks!

  • I went to my local Best Buy (south surrey) and they told me they would have approximately 9… and their doors will be opening at 10am…lame…

  • Tyler

    I'm planning on going to best buy too.. I hope mine has more then that though.

  • Whitingrj

    Excellent work here, Gary. I think you should know that your information is not only helpful to Canadians (which, although I don't live in Canada, I am), but also those overseas. I live in Bermuda now, and will be travelling to Tornoto in a few weeks and may be picking up a factory-unlocked iPhone 4. I've been glued to this site the past few days for the latest news, and this article, which consolidated every piece of information one would need in a handy FAQ-style post, is perhaps your most helpful one yet. Geek up the good work! 🙂

  • Mikeyz

    PLEASE REPLY. PLEASE. PLEASE. IF I buy an iPhone 4 from Rogers will it be unlocked? Or are just the ones from Apple Unlocked???????????????????????? Please reply. I need to know what store to line up at!!!

  • Dave

    So unlocked phones are not avail at carrier stores?

    For some reason I thought even if people upgraded their phone/renewed contract, the phone itself would be unlocked – just them personally would be locked into the contract.

  • Portacio6

    Will the apple online store sell the iphone 4? and will it include free micro sim of you choice?

  • Mikey

    Please reply. Please. If I get the 4 from Rogers is it unlocked or are just the ones from Apple unlocked?

  • DaveMcG

    Spoke with Southgate Centre mall security. He stated that doors will be open at 6:30 so I guess we'll be lining up outside near the starbucks.

    He also figured there would be an extra guard to ensure it wasn't a stampede to the apple store, luckily it's fairly close and a straight line. 😀

    May change by Friday, but I guess I'll bring an umbrella too just in case.

  • Guest

    I sadly work at Future Shop, and I know that my store is 110% getting the iPhone 4 on launch day.

  • Ddisoul

    rogers wont sell unlocked phone and from what ive heard from apple store worker …when u buy unlock as soon as it is activate on a network it become locked to that carrier..thats what he explained to me …

  • montymon

    I called Rogers this evening about another matter and while I was on the phone the CSR advised that my year-old 3GS was eligible for “Early Upgrade” based on the amount of money I spend on my account. He said to upgrade it first before upgrading my two-year-old 3G on the account, because it is eligible for the regular upgrade but if it's upgraded first the early upgrade on the other won't work any more.

    Hope he's right.

  • ShaunT

    Gary, I hope this doesn't sound too stupid but I've never had an iphone before so pardon the stupid question.
    Can anyone go to the apple store and buy the iphone and then activate it later?? I work all day so can't line up but would love one on friday. My mom works next door to an apple store. Is it possible for her to pick me up an unlocked one (if there is any left after the line up) and then I would take it to the one of the phone companies to get it activated in my name?

    Also, I'm currently month to month with bell. If I buy an unlocked phone from apple and then take it to telus, would they be able to switch my number even if I'm not signing a contract with them??
    Thanks for the answers!

  • Leadergo

    West Edmonton Mall will open at 7AM, so that means since the Apple Store is inside, I'm just going to book it inside to the Apple Store as soon as the doors to the mall open.

  • Burrows

    Can i order i4 from rogers.com? Not sure if i can make it to a rogers store on fri…

  • Portacio6

    If you get the iphone 4 at rogers it will be locked to rogers and Only Apple store will sell factory unlocked phone

  • Guest

    That's nice that the Canadian Apple store will sell the unlocked ones for non-Canadians. Last year, I visited two American Apple stores and asked if I can buy it outright. They said I could but I had to show them an American ID. I'm guessing it's to stop visitors from buying a whole bunch and then selling it abroad, but the Canadian stores don't care.

  • guest

    I need at least 4 units but they will sell just two per customer. If I am among the first ones, get out the store at 7:30 and rush to another store (Toronto), do I have any change to buy two more units or it will be impossible due to all being sold out in minutes?

  • I just found some info on the fido website (hidden in the code…again) that shows new non-subsidized prices…originally it said $699/$799…but now it is saying $649/$749…

    The forum-post that shows all the details on what i found is here:

    http://iphoneincanada.ca/forums/showthread.php?8879-More-iphone-4-Fido-prices-pre-ordering-and-hardware-upgrade-info-found-in-web-code!

    Also, I found another post that shows that Rogers/Telus are also listing the $649/$749 prices…this time with an image for proof:

    http://iphoneincanada.ca/forums/showthread.php?8876-Rogers-iPhone-pricing-with-photo-proof

    So $649/$749 price for the 16GB/32GB iphone 4???

  • Noahattic

    are we getting the case at the same time when we are purchusing the iphone 4 at apple store? i'm heading to the apple store!!

  • Leadergo

    You will only receive an unlocked iPhone 4 if you get it on the Apple Online Store, or at the Apple Store. Everywhere else, only locked iPhone 4s will be available.

  • Mikeyz

    really. Well if I buy from Apple will I get the discount price that I would get from Rogers? thanks for the reply

  • Tine2105

    Called fido today, said there's be about 100 set per store…

  • Bludragonflie

    so i got my 2 iphone 3g last year jun 26th, i wanna upgrade both, your saying it will be 299 each??

  • xxJDxx

    I'm curious about this too. I live far from an apple store, but want an unlocked phone and dont want to re-sign.

    Any idea WHEN we will be able to order these from apple online?

    Also, if we buy unlocked from apple, will we get a microSIM? and will it have to be activated by the carrier? will they be doing this at the apple store for customers?

  • Mikeyz

    lmao awesome

  • Ex

    Read the FAQ.
    buying from Rogers is always locked.

  • Tyler

    I heard from a buddy that works at futureshop that you guys won't sell locked iPhone 4's without a contract? because you guys don't make any money on phones outright? that true?

  • iT

    Indont know if anyone else is in this situation, but are employees of the wireless companies (Bell, Telus, Rogers) able to buy on launch day? If the company posts the policy that employees can't get one right away on launch day, would the Apple Store be able to tell if someone was an employee?

  • Ex

    That information is not yet available.

  • Mikeyz

    Can apple give me the discount price though like rogers would?

  • Ex

    Yes they can.

  • Ex

    Yes

  • Yes.

    Yes.

  • D4Yv3

    Lol, we have been waiting so long for this I just have the feeling something will go wrong.
    A delay, a shortage, a band of Iraqi rebels taking Steve Jobs hostage….
    Hopefully I didn't jinx it.

  • markajaw

    You can only get unlocked phones from Apple.

  • Walgreens?

    Nice copy and paste of a US FAQ, but it's not really 100% applicable to the Canadian launch, case in point.

  • Twitter. @iphoneincanada

  • Harrison

    Really? Did you miss the purpose of this blog?? The answer is above.

  • Cheers!

  • Magrat22

    “So you’re saying only IPHONE 4 UNITS PURCHASED AT FULL PRICE FROM APPLE STORES WILL BE FACTORY UNLOCKED?
    – Yes. Thanks for reading.

    Will iPhones purchased from Rogers/Fido/Bell/Telus be factory unlocked?
    – (double face palm) For the love of god, NO! Please read the above!”

    I love you guys thanks for the laugh 🙂

  • Ex

    He was kidding.

  • Nando83p

    After reading this posts and the FAQ, am sure the stock will be sould out on launch day… what a bummer

  • You will get the discount, but discounted phones are locked, and require that you sign a 3-year contract.

  • There is no June 31st.

  • I also was, but then I realized that I simply don't have $650-700 to blow right now. Time for another contract renewal.

  • There needs no convincing. Just check your local Craigslist or eBay right now for completed auctions. The iPhone is in high demand! 😉

    Think of it as an investment. You'll get your return next year when you can sell and easily upgrade. When you're finally free and off contract, the Big 3 will be fighting for your month to month business!!!

  • Highly unlikely but not impossible.

  • this dude

    there is a july 31st……..

  • lululemon

    I actually can't get over some of the dimwitted questions STILL being asked after this post. Sad really.

  • Jake

    I know we get a free case, but are we going to get it in store? Are we going to get it in Apple stores only or carriers too?

  • Huge props to Gary for writing a FAQ with virtually no help from Apple and the carriers. I guess we'll have to wait until launch day or the night before (if we're lucky).

  • kobe

    i just called rogers and the rep guy told me that apple can not do hardware upgrade and renew contract for rogers and said that even if apple can do it then the phone is registered under apple so if there is any 3g technical issues or texting issues or sth that rogers will not help 100% to solve the issue as it was purchased from apple store.
    so now i am confused as to where shud i buy the iphone from as i dnt knw which rogers store would be carrying them and how many.
    please help
    thanks

  • funk

    ok i just called around
    best buy store calgary… guy said they will for sure have them. supposedly they are getting their shipment in tomorrow. and they will do new and resign ups. also you get 2500 points on your best buy card. that is equal to about $30. not a whole lot but its pretty nice.

    bell store… he said he wasn't sure. said to call back friday.

    now i really want to goto bell and make sure my plan and everything is properly set up. maybe perhaps get some sort of nice discount or great plan/rate. but the free $30 in points at best buy are also tempting me. i'll probably just pass on the points and goto a bell store.

  • mikeeeeeeeeee

    Ex/iphonefan,

    So is the iPhone going to be sold online???

    Will we have to wait for backorders to clear???

  • Seriously?!

    are you dumb?! read above! unlocked phones from apple stores ONLY. phones from the phone companies are locked to that specific company…

  • dbear

    I just called Rogers, they said they still have no idea what the upgrade pricing is. Strange…

  • Guest

    Hey, ex, are you saying that the 6 gb data plan from bell isn't official yet?

  • Mark_Ottawa

    If I buy unlocked from Apple Store does it include the micro sim card? Also will my current data plan be ok with the iPhone? I currently have a WM phone with a good plan but am scared that Bell will screw me over on my plan as I'm only just over a year into the contract and don't currently have an iPhone?

  • Seriously?!

    i don't think that is accurate. my friend works at the apple store and they are not allowed to disclose any info. like, when they were hired they had to sign contracts to be tight lipped or they could lose their jobs. plus the whole point of having an unlocked phone is so you can just slip in any sim whether it's in canada or if you are backpacking in europe or asia, etc and it will be good to go where ever you are =)

  • Number_fifty

    So you can upgrade on your rogersaccount right at the apple store right??

  • Source? This is original written by yours truly.

    I believe you missed the memo. It's called a JOKE from the iPhone 4 vs HTC Evo video.

    😉

  • Jarndt08

    Apple can do hardware upgrades and renew contracts for rogers thats a load of crap. If anything happens with your phone no matter where you but it, they are going to send you to apple. thats how it is anyways.

  • Jarndt08

    Only in Apple stores.

  • 🙂

  • Ex

    Info coming soon.

  • mikeeeeeeeeee

    thanks for updating! but sadly its not very good info, but i understand you guys just dont know.

  • Mark

    Want to save me a spot in line? Lol

  • Thanks! Ex consulted for this FAQ too. He finally woke up.

  • Ex

    Yes
    No, must be a proper iPhone plan.

  • mikeeeeeeeeee

    i really hope so. but my hope is dying down 🙁

    do you think the apple store will be sold out by noon on friday?

  • Silverjunkie

    If you upgrade/renew at the apple store and are with Rogers, do you pay outright or pay on account

  • iT

    umm… Yes employee's will be able to purchase the phone on launch? or yes to apple being able to detect employees of the carriers?

    Is this something you are sure about? Is this essentially info from Apple stores? Please clarify! Thanks!!

  • SF

    It is first come first served. There is no reservation allowed.

  • Ex

    No

  • Ex

    Account

  • draz

    Yes

  • Jlocicero

    Sorry, what do you mean by proper iPhone plan? I have a 3G on Fido with a voice plan, 6 GB data option, and the iPhone value pack. Does that count as a proper iPhone plan? Or are you and the original poster referring to Bell only?

    Thanks for this summary. It really helps!

  • Ex

    Yes employees can purchase an iPhone 4 at launch.

    If you're a wireless carrier employee, you can buy at Apple as well, but there is no discount.

    It's no different than any other person.

  • SF

    Can you buy an iPhone 4 from fido, rogers, etc without a data plan?
    If yes, do you still pay $199 or $299 for signing a 3 year contract?

  • Ex

    What you have is a proper iPhone plan. But didn't you see you had a WiMo device?!

  • Ex

    Yes. Add $200 more.

  • George

    What do we do about the SIM? I can't just go home and swap my Fido SIM into the iPhone 4. Do I then have to go to the Fido store and get a new SIM? Or does the phone come with a new one that will magically work with Fido (or other carriers)?

    Or just so I don't have to even talk to Fido, is it best to just cut up the old SIM to fit?

  • Bobbee Raye

    I'm really sorry for asking but, does anyone know if I choose to do a HUP at the apple store and my carrier is Fido if I can use my fido dollars?
    Thanks in advance

  • Ex

    On a 3 year contract with data plan.

  • kobe

    cool thanks i have been calling apple and rogers like crazy and rogers still tell me that apple cant do it but i m gonna trust u and the apple that they can do it and sell it to me for the locked price i am gonna be waiting in line from like 12 am hope nothing goes wrong and that apple can actually upgrade my contract

  • Jk_uptempo

    anyone know what the return policy is for buying a factory unlocked iphone 4 at full price at the apple store?

  • Ens7piper

    Just wondering, is it going to be Micro SIM or Regular SIM on iPhone 4?

  • Ex

    14 days

  • Ex

    MicroSIM

  • Johnny

    Hey ex are the carrier stores able to transfer your phone numbers from your regular sim card to the micro sim card thanks 🙂

  • draz

    Micro-sim

  • VancouverBlade

    Do you guys even know if the Mall security will let you stay overnight? Seems odd that they would let people camp out.

  • draz

    They will force you to camp outside the designated mall entrance and open those doors at just before 7am

  • Well, someone forgot the winking smilie suggesting the joke factor, then. 🙂

  • Ex

    Yes

  • Tyler

    Ex is apple or any of the carriers gonna be able to transfer the phone numbers from my original sim card into the micro-sim card please answer

  • draz

    Almost…. but not quite

    If you get it from a carrier store regardless of what price you pay it will be locked to that carrier. If you buy it from Apple store paying the full price $699 (estimated) then it will be unlocked.

  • Ex

    Yes

  • Pok

    If I upgrade (with Fido) will it add three years onto the 16 months left in my contract, or does it start the day I upgrade?

  • Ex

    Adds

  • Mataio_

    How hard do you think this new phone will be to unlock?

  • Portacio6

    You think so? cuz I might go there around 11-12 on pacific centre 🙁

  • this depends, i know my old blackberry plan works fine with both apple and android devices. However I know that a iphone/android plan will not work with blackberrys.

    It really depends on how bell has their network setup, i currently work for rogers and have a data plan that will work with any device.

  • Pok

    And do you think they would allow me to upgrade to the iPhone 6 at launch at the lowest price (assuming $200)?

  • Ex

    Let's keep the talk to current devices.

  • Hey IT,
    i'm in the same situation as you, i work for rogers and really want to do the “upgrade” to get the new iphone on launch day. As far as i know, all employee's are BLACK'D OUT of getting promotional pricing on the iPhone. Not sure how long this black out will last, but i assume that buying the phone at full cost will not be an issue.

    They can definalty track what we are doing, as the cost of the phone is generally applied to the bills. As far as i know this is how rogers work, and i know with telus you need to pay for your upgrades before you leave the store.

  • draz

    Yea but there are no White iPhones available to get… They are just getting a head start.

  • draz

    The jailbreaks and unlocks are coming… patience

  • Mataio_

    When purchasing at Best Buy/Futureshop, do they give first dibs to clients renewing contracts? Wondering if renewing clients get store preference over those purchasing full price?

  • sb

    heyy gary, i was planning on going to pacfic center too to get the iphone, how do we know how you look like! are you gonna have a sign that says iphoneincanada crew ? haha are you on facebook?

  • Mataio_

    ya not worried.. just curious, thinking down the road is all 🙂

  • helen

    omgggg i want to get the iphone 4 but im stuck in a small town until friday night (there's no apple store here), anyone want to get one for me while u r at it???

    sorry but if u buy the iphone from bestbuy/future shop, is it factory unlocked?

  • Ralph

    Anybody lining up at Oakridge Apple store in Vancouver? I want to know where the line starts?

  • You'll find me. 😉

    Sent from my iPad

  • frankthetank

    When I get my phone on contract on Rogers does it extend my 3 year contract to 4 years (seeing that I have 1 year left on my current 3 year) or is the 3 year contract starting over?

  • draz

    Best Buy and Future Shop are currently selling locked only.

  • Mataio_

    Should be a fresh 3 year, thats how we did it when I worked there.

  • draz

    Yup they just restart it from the day of the upgrade

  • frankthetank

    Awesome thats what I was hoping for, if it was extended an extra 3 years might have made me think more seriously about the unlocked phone.

  • jeff

    Hi, is it easy to block cellular data using the iphone 4? Im planning to get the iphone 4 unlocked from apple store and not planning to get the data plan since i will be travelling around often. Is it still very risky if i don't get any data plans?

  • VancouverBlade

    So at 7am there's an almighty rush to get to the store in time? Hope Apple do something sensible like give out tickets to people before they open the doors. I'll be wandering over later when the initial bedlam has subsided.

  • Ex

    Fido adds. It doesn't start over.

  • Anthony

    I thought Steve Jobs said it was 30 days at that press release.

  • Ex

    That's for AT&T.

  • draz

    Very easy, just a simple toggle switch in the phones settings and you can turn off Cellular data.

  • Yes. Call your carrier and tell them to block. Let them know you will not pay a penny in data charges, and mark you file for the conversation.

  • Turtle

    if i remember correctly, when i switched from cdma (no SIM) to gsm (SIM) my device back in the day was a blackberry and i just inserted the SIM and called rogers and they activated it over the phone.

    ps: there's tutorials on how to cut your original SIM to the size of a Micro-SIM, which i intend to do 🙂

  • mikeeeeeeeeee

    i really hope they won't be sold out by the time i get there….

  • That's a generic page. Even if they let you order white iPhone you will be waiting for months 😛

  • lello91

    The new iOS 4 has an option to turn off Cellular Data from carrier. So you'll be controlling the swith on/off Data.

  • kobe

    hey gary or ex
    sorry to ask this question again and annoy you guys but could tell me whether i can upgrade my rogers contract at apple store to get iphone 4 and my current phone is not an iphone the reason i am asking this is because i called apple store and they said that they could do it and when i called rogers store they said that apple can not do it and only rogers can.
    please help me
    thanks

  • I think you are required to have a Data plan with Fido and Rogers. Not sure about others.

  • Noahattic

    hey, gray…. should i go to pacific center as well? i know the apple store will get a larger stock than the carriers store..and they open at 7!!
    but my concern is whether i can get on a student plan when buying from applestore?

  • lello91

    Or get a data plan, and cancel it after a month with a 100$ cancellation fee.

  • Jorge

    Gary / Ex – really excellent summary. Sincere thanks for putting this together. A question (i hope is not covered elsewhere); I currently have a 3G and plan to buy an unlocked iPhone 4 from the Apple store. (I am happy with my existing Rogers account but do not want to be locked in for 3 new years.) Given the 3G works with a SIM, is the expectation that the Apple staff will copy my data from the SIM to the new Micro-SIM to work in the 4? Sorry if covered elsewhere – and thanks again.

  • Tyler

    I'm also wondering this as well

  • JfromK

    What time does the Rideau Center unlock it's doors? I heard 5am? or is it actually unlocked all night?

  • jeff

    Thanks for the replies guys… Guess it should be safe to get the iphone 4 without data plan (really want one but will be a waste of money when im travelling). And about calling your carrier to block data charges, i remember seeing a topic around here saying that rogers/fido will not block data for your anymore?

  • Dimitri

    Will u be able to get it at the rogers store as a new activation or as i am porting my number from fido to rogers, but insteas of paying cash can i pay by my next months bill?

    Sorry for any mistakes i have been awake for 48, working alot lol.

  • Ex

    Yes. Apple can take care of everything.

  • Ex

    Rogers: $100 + $25 + 12% (BC) tax: $140

    Savings: $60 (is your time worth $60 heckling with them on the phone?)

  • Ex

    If you're porting, you will pay in store for the device.

  • Ex

    It's actually covered in the FAQ.

    And yes, Apple will take care of it all.

  • Nickxpro

    can u buy 2 iPhones at the same time in the same store????????????? unlocked ofcourse

  • Dimitri

    ok thank u and one more thing, i just talked to rogers and they told me whoever got a last upgrade before june 4th if i remember can upgrade to the iphone4, now lets say i go to the store and do they upgrade there do i still need to pay cash? or pay threw my bill?

    Thank u for ur help

  • mackman6151

    even if you'd be able to switch carriers on a whim without paying expensive cancellation fees, eventually in order to get any decent plan you'll have to sign a new contract and you will be locked in, so you might as well get something out of it. furthermore, paying the $199/$299 for a locked iphone and then paying the cancellation fee will still not equal up to the $659/$779 being reported for unlocked…..(not ot mention you'll be able to unlock once the dev team releases an updated jailbreak because they've allready unlocked the initial baseband :D….I really dont see the benefit of getting a factory unlocked phone for 4 times the price.

  • Ex

    Maximum two per customer

  • Nickxpro

    nice and thnx for the reply

  • bcb

    that's what I've been wondering. excluding the ease of traveling – let's say you normally just stay in Canada. What kind of plans will you be able to use with an unlocked iPhone4? will there be decent PAYGO voice+data plans? or will you have to sign a multi-year contract anyhow to get a reasonable voice+data plan to use with your unsubsidized phone?

  • kobe

    thanks ex i appreciate it. do u knw then why rogers said that apple cant do it?
    thanks

  • steveee

    Im on rogers, I was wondering if i go to the apple store will I be able to use my upgrade there, or do i have to a rogers store?

  • mackman6151

    well I'm assuming that the amount of travelling you'd be doing to make it worth your while to get factory unlocked, you're either filthy rich, or are on buisiness trips….the latter you'd most likely be supplied with a company issued data device you could tether to your beloved iphone anyways :P………………..the few times I travel i dont mind paying the long distance fees.

  • pangs

    do you expect that the unlocked iphone 4 will be sold out in a day? i am from ontario..

  • Ex

    If you're business relied on bringing business to your stores instead of
    partner stores (Apple), would you lie to drive people to your own stores?

    Rogers would.

  • Ex

    Either store.

  • Saphisen

    it adds onto your 16 months. I have 6 months until the end of my contract and the CSA said that the 3 years doesn't start until then.

  • Jorge

    Thanks for confirming. Appreciate your efforts.

  • invincibleparm

    I was quoted slightly lower prices from the Telus rep that got information today. He confirmed 659/759 for me when I talked to him this afternoon.

  • Ex

    Telus rep read the internet, repeated to you.

    Wait for Apple official.

  • Edwin

    Ok, if I get an unlocked phone, will the Big three help with getting my number from my SIM card to the micro SIM card need for the iPhone4?

  • Ex

    Why bother with them? Just ask someone at the Apple Store.

  • SF

    It will show up on your next bill.

  • Whiterhino14

    Here is a great idea for properly using this site. click on the oldest post first and read through them all. You will notice that many questions that you wanted to ask have been answered already. This makes more sense than just jumping on and asking Ex & Gary the same questions over and over and over and over and over. You get the point.
    Just a though, not trying to offend anybody.

  • Ex

    That would make my day (and inbox) 1000 times better.

  • mickster

    Quick question… if you do buy factory unlocked from Apple, can you generally get any voice/data plan that is offered to people who buy on contract?

  • Apple guy

    Rideau opens doors at 5, we open at 7 😉

  • bdb

    for those of us who aren't going to be in town for this weekend, let alone friday, any ideas how soon the next shipment is coming in?

  • gp

    anybody for oakridge apple store, vancouver for friday`s iphone launch???

  • Ex

    Not really. You will only be able to choose from a limited set of
    non-contracted plans. Otherwise, if you are already on a contract, you can
    continue to use that plan under the unlocked iPhone.

  • kobe

    not sure i am going to apple store at pacific mall do u think the line at oakridge might be less or it might be less busy then prob i can come there?

  • Whiterhino14

    Just start charging .50 cents per question ,Via paypal. This will cut down on questions and fatten up the iphone 5 bank account for next year : )

  • Chiara

    yes!!! im going to be lining up! what time do you think is good

  • helen

    hmm isn't just reading the FAQ better than reading all the posts? it's organized and anything that's important is already up there

  • Jlocicero

    Doh! No I didn’t. Sorry for the screwup!

  • Noahattic

    i went to bestbuy nearby my place this afternoon. the staff told they won't sell outright iphone4 on the launch day due to the very limited stock….

  • bbb

    hey gary
    i'm lining up at pacific centre. how do i find you? will you be there at 7am on friday?

  • SF

    Only apple store has factory unlocked iphones. best buy and futureshop will have carrier locked phones.

  • Chiara

    oakridge would definitely be less busy.. PC is the hub so more people would be there

  • SF

    I am really starting to worry why apple.ca still has no updated information.
    It's odd to go from 'Coming Soon' to 'Buy Now' in one night.

  • Whiterhino14

    There have been 20 new threads over the past 4 days. The other 19 didn't come with a FAQ. Even posting the FAQ hasn't seemed to reduce the duplication in questions. Even though the FAQ says it all.

  • Ex

    LOL!

  • Ex

    USA does not get unlocked iPhones

  • Alex

    So is it a race to Apple store when doors open? What entrance should we line up?

  • +1

  • Whiterhino14

    Here is a question that I haven't seen answered yet. If I buy an HTC EVO and I get three wishes and one of those wishes is for an Iphone 4, the one with the wifis. What the hell am I going to do with the other 2 wishes? I'm done!
    : )

  • Ex

    Wish for a Bumper

    and

    Wish for the iPhone with the bigger gee-bees.

    😀

  • Minhtribui07

    Hi Ex/Gary, I'm from the US and planning on driving up there to purchase your guys iPhone 4. But instead of coming on launch day, so you friends up north can get first dibs, I'll be heading up Saturday morning. Do you think they will have a couple of 16gb left available at the apple store?

  • Guest of the day

    I am buying an unlocked one but have no data plan yet…I am thinking of calling Rogers customer retentions and getting a good deal out of them…when is the best time to call? and do you think I would have to sign a contract as well? I am looking at the iphone 'value pack' which includes data, txting and visual voicemail for $40 on top of my voice plan…
    is that a good idea?
    Thanks!

  • Ex

    Most likely. I would recommend going to Toronto or Vancouver where there is
    more than one Apple Store close together in case stock is low.

    Ironic how three years later, Americans are coming to Canada to get the
    iPhone. *snicker*

  • F.D

    Anyone lining up at Carrefour Laval (next to Montreal) ? Hit me up!

  • Whiterhino14

    I forgot all about the Gee-Bees. Crap! I wasted the other 2 wishes on world peace and good will towards men & women.
    I would rather have had the extra Gee-Bees

  • gp

    i wnt be able to go there early so wll try to be there by at max 6.30am…am gng fr the unlocked one

  • gp

    yup pacific will be more busy

  • bbb

    first you invade other countries for no good reason and now you want to come and take all our iphones and women

  • Dimitri

    thank u, i didnt wanna pay cash upfront, its better having it on my next bill

  • 6daniel

    I'd expect to have no stocks left by 1pm tomorrow, theres a thousands of people here waiting to get there hands on one.

  • 6daniel

    Anyone lining up at coquitlam center future shop or best buy? I will go there if the fido mall kiosk doesn't confirm by today. So excited 😀

  • Mr.Bou

    If I buy factory unlocked iphone 4, when I update to v4.0.1. Does it locked or not? or Do I need to jailbreak?

  • Whiterhino14

    Yes it is ironic. Many of us were so desperate in the 1st year , myself included we all got mixed up with iphoneincanadanow.ca
    and almost lost 850 each to a scam artist. I believe dealing with peoples issues on that site was when this site really took off and caught peoples attention. look how busy you guys are now.
    Happy anniversary ! : )

  • Bro4ever

    Is this for real?? Fido adds additional 3 years but Rogers doesn't ?

  • Ex

    Correct

  • SF

    its Unlocked, it will never get locked.

  • kobe

    anyone going to pacific mall tomorrow to get in line?

  • gee

    Any recommendations for specific companies to use when travelling in the US from Canada with an unlocked iPhone? And what I'd be requesting (“Hi AT&T, I'd like to buy a SIM card to use for a pay-as-you-go data and voice service in a phone I already own” or similar)? Thanks a ton!

  • asdmd

    Hey what plan do you have, bc I just called today and I only have 1 year left on my contract. So $20.00 a month X 12 = 240, $5.00 for data X 12 = 60, so that adds up to $300.00 + 200 = 500, and thats with one year left, if you buy it and then cancel right away you are going to pay just the same, so buy unlocked and be happy!

  • asdmd

    If you have a good plan now with rogers you can keep it, no need to re-sign a contract, and at least when contract is almost up you have the ability to negotiate a better monthly plan. Also unlocked has a value esp. to our US friends who just want the phone and fellow CND who would love to have one in a year or so when iphone 5 comes out!

  • 6daniel

    only you and thousands of other people here 😉

  • Ex

    We’ve seen that.
    Thank you for your efforts.

  • Ex

    We’ve seen that.
    Thank you for your efforts.

  • CJH

    quick question – if I buy an unlocked iphone do I have to notify Rogers (or whoever my carrier is) when I change the SIM card (from my old iPhone3) – or do I just change it and it works.

  • CJH

    quick question – if I buy an unlocked iphone do I have to notify Rogers (or whoever my carrier is) when I change the SIM card (from my old iPhone3) – or do I just change it and it works.

  • Bobbee Raye

    but the Apple store would let me use my Fido dollars there? i.e – apple would have access to my fido account / fido dollars and could use it on my phone? (if i’m doing the HUP at apple).

  • Bobbee Raye

    but the Apple store would let me use my Fido dollars there? i.e – apple would have access to my fido account / fido dollars and could use it on my phone? (if i’m doing the HUP at apple).

  • Ex

    You need to transfer your account to the new SIM

  • Ex

    You need to transfer your account to the new SIM

  • Marc

    when will the iphone 4 be available to purchase at the apple store online and get shipped? 12:01AM? 7AM?
    I am on holidays in Europe and want to get one ordered for when I come back.

  • Good FAQ. Do you know of any articles that compare pricing of unlocked vs contract options? I'd really like to get my first iPhone, but I'm quite fearful of being ripped off.

  • Minh

    Thanks ex and it is ironic. I'm just happy that I'm only a couple of hours from Vancouver. Let say apple does run out of stock for this launch, usually when will they get more shipment in?

  • SDADA

    CAN I BUY AN IPHONE 4 ON CONTRACT FROM THE APPLE STORE? DO I HAVE TO GO TO A ROGERS STORE TO GET IT ON CONTRACT?

  • Incorrect. You DO NOT EVER NEED TO JAILBREAK A PHONE. I think that the iPhone is perfectly fine without it. And with it being permanently factory-unlocked, you don’t need to touch any other dev team tools like unlocking either.

  • Incorrect. You DO NOT EVER NEED TO JAILBREAK A PHONE. I think that the iPhone is perfectly fine without it. And with it being permanently factory-unlocked, you don’t need to touch any other dev team tools like unlocking either.

  • guest

    Your cell phone account is tied to the SIM card not the phone, so yes use your sim in any phone, unlocked or locked to rogers

  • guest

    Your cell phone account is tied to the SIM card not the phone, so yes use your sim in any phone, unlocked or locked to rogers

  • Covergirl9

    My best bet is the Nicholas entrance…it’s the closest one to the Apple store BUT security will open all doors at the same time (they have a bunch of security guys)

  • Covergirl9

    My best bet is the Nicholas entrance…it’s the closest one to the Apple store BUT security will open all doors at the same time (they have a bunch of security guys)

  • Omar1795

    i wonder if i can buy on apple online stores plz answer if u know any information about that ? 🙂

  • Chrome262

    from what Fido told me, is that once i get the phone (if its online order) then i call them up and give them the new sim number, and then its done. Its the same if you need a new sim. If its at the store, then they will do that for you.

  • Jessica

    I know that this isn't predictable but how long will the process be to get the phone working?
    I am expecting a call tomorrow LOL….so I was wondering say I go in get my phone, how much time will it take to get the phone activated?

    Would it be fasetr if I went into Rogers and got a microsim card and bring it with me tomorrow? Thanks

  • M.G.

    I'll be there!

  • Hey Roby,
    From somebody who works in the business, you need be at least 18 to sign a contract, no matter if you are authorized on the account or not. Get you parents to meet you there or come with you, because you will be very disappointed if you don’t

    Dave

  • Ann

    Hi Ex, how to delete iPhone data completely before selling it?

  • a.

    I was wondering if when I go to pick up my phone tomorrow at my local rogers store, would I be able to just pick it up and do the install/set up at home or would the sales person will have to touch it? and possibly scratch it? What if I don't want him/her to remove all the protection clear labels?????

  • Thredz_12

    Thanks for the info! this might be a dumb question, if I send someone to buy one from the rogers store in the morning, does it have to be activated there or can I activate it myself when I get home from work in the evening?

    Thanks.

  • First: Never pay for an unlock. People who do so are stealing other people’s work and charging you for it. You can jailbreak and unlock your iPhone very easily for free.
    Also, any third party unlocks will be broken when you update the firmware, making your phone useless, possibly forever. (There are work arounds for this but you need to know about them before upgrading)
    Follow: http://blog.iphone-dev.org for instructions on jailbreaking and unlocking. The iPhone 4 jailbreak and unlock will be out very soon.

    Second, unlock phone in Canada costs 659$. On contract you could get it for 200$. Breaking the contract can cost you 20$ per month up to $600. (Correct me if Im wrong, it used to be 400$ and now they upped it to 600-800$ based on the price of the phone.
    Buying an unlocked one = 659$.
    Buying one locked and unlocking it yourself = 800-1000$.

    Hope this helps some.

  • Thanks!

  • Groogrux

    Do a restore via iTunes

  • Derek

    My friend from Bell just told me that she got an e-mail from Bell head office saying that iPhone 4 will be new activations only!! NO UPGRADES OR BUYING OUTRIGHT!!! I hope this isn't true, otherwise there will be alot of pissed off people and new clients for Rogers and Telus.

  • Groogrux

    This could be true, however lots of people have been getting conflicting info. But, as i do recall- when fido first got the iphone in 2008, they only dealt with new activations at launch.

  • Roby145

    1. Yes
    2. No

    Your probably better off going to an apple store cause they will have more stock and you have a higher chance of getting one whereas with Rogers they will only have like 10 in stock so the chance is very low, both Rogers and apple can activate it for you and lock it to you. Up to you, but personally apple store would be better. Maybe you can even come to one at like 1pm and you'll still have a chance for getting an iPhone 4.

  • Morgan
  • Naveen

    Hey, just wondering if apple store will have enough stock to last through Friday morning…or will there not be enough for the people in line?

  • Naveen

    See you all there 😛 How long do you think the line will be by opening?

  • Roby145

    I am 14 and i might be planning to go a fairview or yorkdale apple sotre around 12 or 1pm. Do you guys think I'll be able to get one if I go at this time? How long would the lines and activation be approximately, locked on contract? Lastly, since my parents have their name on the bill would I have to bring them along or could I do it all alone?

    Thanks Gary, and Ex

  • Roby145

    Is anyone going to the Rogers store beside promenade mall? I believe it's like 28 dicer drive?

  • Roby145

    *disera*

  • Meanbilliegreen

    Just got off phone with fido rep, she told me that hup only applies to people with less than 14 months remaining on their contract.

    Has anyone else been able to confirm this?
    Seems kinda dumb considering that Rogers is allowing people to upgrade much earlier.

    🙁

  • VancouverBlade

    What is your stock level like? Get a good amount or advice on very early queuing?

  • Jarndt08

    Rogers Buzz just tweeted this: RogersBuzz

    iPhone 4 launches tomorrow at Rogers! Visit http://bit.ly/bmpkqN for special iPhone 4 hardware upgrade details & pricing.

  • Seiferseph
  • Markrogers

    When I entered my number and postal code into the Upgrade Eligibilty checker on the Rogers website (https://www.rogers.com/web/RogersServices.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=MyRogers_Home), here’s the message I get:

    “You are eligible to upgrade to an iPhone 4 at $159 for the 16GB or $269 for 32GB, each with a 3 year term voice and data plan. See Legal Disclaimer below or in-store for full details and conditions.

    iPhone 4 will be available as of July 30th, 2010, at which time you can upgrade by visiting your nearest Rogers authorized reseller. Rogers will not be taking pre-orders for the iPhone 4.

    Learn more about our hardware upgrade offers in our iPhone FAQs”

    Not sure if anyone else has received the same message, but perhaps the Rogers pricing will be $159/$269 as opposed to the $199/$299 that has been reported.

  • Laura
  • James00

    CAN YOU PLEASE….add whether or not auth dealers will be giving out the micro sims or not….or if you did purchase through them would you have to then go to one of the big 3 to get your micro sim

    thanks,

    James

  • Rogers

    When will I be able to purchase the new iPhone 4 from Rogers? Rogers will launch iPhone 4 on July 30, 2010 Which monthly plans are available for iPhone 4? View our plans page to select the right plan for you. Will Rogers be taking pre-orders online or through Rogers Customer Support? No. Rogers will not be taking pre-orders online, in-store or through our Customer Support centre before launch. Where can I purchase the new devices? Customers wishing to buy the new models can visit their nearest Rogers Plus, Rogers Dealer and wherever Rogers’ smartphones are sold. Find store addresses. What will the Rogers pricing be for the new iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS for new Rogers customers? With new activation on a 3-year voice and data plan
    NEW 32GB iPhone 4: $269 NEW 16GB iPhone 4: $159 NEW 8GB iPhone 3GS: $99 (before $50 rebate applied on your first invoice – rebate offer starts July 30, 2010) Device-only pricing (no term)
    NEW 32GB iPhone 4: $749 NEW 16GB iPhone 4: $649 NEW 8GB iPhone 3GS: $549 Are there any special offers for existing Rogers customers? Yes.
    Yes. The easiest way to check your hardware upgrade eligibility is to check here
    Customers who have completed a 2 or 3-year term Rogers standard hardware upgrade program enables customers with any mobile device who have completed a 2 or 3-year term to upgrade to an iPhone 4 at $159 for the 16GB or $269 for 32GB, each with a 3 year term voice and data plan (customers can always refer to rogers.com or in store for promotional offers before current term expiry). Rogers customers who activated or upgraded to iPhone on a term contract on or before December 31, 2008 are also eligible for this pricing. See Legal Disclaimer below or in-store for full details and conditions. iPhone customers who entered a term on or before June 7, 2010 ( the day Apple announced iPhone 4 at the Worldwide Developers conference) and who do not qualify for the above offer iPhone customers who entered a term on or before June 7, 2010, and who do not qualify for the above offer are eligible to upgrade to an iPhone 4 at $399 for the 16GB or $499 for 32GB, each with a 3 year term voice and data plan. See Legal Disclaimer below or in-store for full details and conditions. Customers who entered a term after June 7, 2010 Rogers customers have the flexibility to upgrade to any new device at any time at the device-only price (no term). The no term price is $649 for the 16GB iPhone 4 and $749 for the 32GB iPhone 4. See Legal Disclaimer below or in-store for full details and conditions. Corporate customers Please note that corporate customers have defined upgrade timelines per their corporate contract with Rogers and will need to follow their regular business process for upgrade eligibility inquires Will I need a bumper case for my iPhone 4? In a recent press conference, Apple addressed reports regarding iPhone 4 antenna performance when the device is held a certain way. Apple has announced they will provide a free bumper case for all iPhone 4 owners until September 30, 2010. The bumper cases will be provided directly by Apple and more details can be found at http://www.apple.com/antenna. As with any device, our buyers’ remorse policy still applies. If you are not completely satisfied with your new iPhone 4 you may return or exchange the device within 15 days of purchase; providing that there are no more than 30 minutes of voice usage, and the device and all the packaging and contents are returned in like new condition. If you experience a problem with your iPhone, we will assist you in resolving the problem. Will I still be able to purchase iPhone 3GS 16GB or iPhone 3GS 32GB? These models have been discontinued. Some stores may have limited stock of these devices. There is, however, an iPhone 3GS 8GB available for purchase from Rogers. Is there a limit to the number of iPhone 4 devices that I may purchase? Overwhelming customer feedback indicates there is great demand for iPhone 4 in Canada. To ensure as many Canadians can get one as soon as possible, we are limiting purchase at launch to a maximum of two devices per customer until further notice. Where can I find out more about the new features of these devices? Please visit http://www.apple.ca/iphone for complete details on features of the new devices Are there different colours available for the new device models? iPhone 4 will be available in black only. Apple plans to make iPhone 4 available in white later this year. See the statement from Apple on white iPhone 4 availability here. iPhone 3GS 8GB is only available in black. Does the FaceTime feature use up data from my data plan? No. Currently, the FaceTime feature only works over WiFi and from one iPhone 4 to another iPhone 4. Will iPhone 4 support 4G network services if/when available? No. Support for 4G network services is not available with iPhone 4. Can I use my SIM from my existing iPhone in my new iPhone 4? No. iPhone 4 requires a micro-SIM specific to iPhone 4. Learn more. Can I use my SIM from my iPad in my new iPhone 4? No. iPhone 4 requires a micro-SIM specific to iPhone 4. Learn more. I am an existing Rogers customer, how do I transfer my current mobile number and mobile account from my current SIM card to the micro-SIM card for iPhone 4? The micro-SIM card for iPhone 4 will be included with your new iPhone 4. If you purchased your iPhone at a Rogers store or authorized reseller, and if you are an existing Rogers customer, your salesperson will help you to transfer your current Rogers mobile number and account from your current SIM card to the micro-SIM card for iPhone 4. If for some reason your salesperson is unable to help you to transfer your SIM information, please see here for instructions on how to complete the process. Migrating your number/account is necessary as iPhone 4 requires a specific micro-SIM card that currently can not be used in other devices. How do I transfer contacts to an iPhone 4 from another device? iPhone 4 syncs with your Mac or PC using iTunes, allowing you to easily transfer your calendar, contacts, emails, photos, and music easily to your iPhone. Refer to http://www.apple.com/ca/support/iphone for more information Are Rogers plans supported on unlocked iPhones? Yes. You may add any Rogers plan for smartphones (excluding BlackBerry® data plans) to an unlocked iPhone 4. However, please note that the Handset Protection Guarantee will not apply to your unlocked iPhone 4. Rogers Customer Support will only provide connectivity, plan and billing support. All other issues related to your unlocked iPhone will be serviced by Apple at 1-800-263-3394. Similarly, you will not qualify for any Rogers hardware upgrade programs if you purchase an unlocked device. Lastly, note that using a Rogers micro-SIM card will not lock your iPhone to the Rogers network. How will Rogers handle backorders? Rogers won’t be taking any backorders online, in-store or through our Customer Support centre if inventory runs low. How can I manage data usage on my iPhone? Rogers has developed several ways to help customers keep track of their data usage. You can download the Rogers My Account application. This application is FREE to download, FREE to use and it provides up-to-date information on voice, data and text messaging usage and more. You can also log into your My Rogers account on rogers.com, to display data usage and other account details. Rogers also provides no data overage fees on your first 2 months to help you determine how much data you need, as well as data alerts to let you know when you’re close to reaching your monthly data allotment. Is tethering supported on iPhone and data plans for iPhone? Tethering allows you to share the mobile internet connection on your iPhone with your laptop. Tethering is included at no additional charge for Rogers customers who subscribe to a data plan of 1 GB and above. Tethering is not available on Flex Rate Data plans, Family Share Data & Voice plans, Smartphone and Rocketâ„¢ stick shared data plans, and One Rate Data plans for Canada and the U.S. FAQS for Business Customers If I’m a Corporate Customer and want to upgrade to an iPhone 4, what is the process? To upgrade to a new iPhone, you may do so via your dedicated site or by calling your assigned Rogers representative. You will then receive iPhone 4 along with the micro-SIM for iPhone 4 and will need to call Rogers Business Customer Care (number included in the package) to activate the new micro-SIM. This will ensure you are not without service on your existing device while waiting for the new iPhone and micro-SIM to arrive. You may also visit your dealer to receive a new iPhone and micro-SIM. Im a Business customer, what does this mean for me? Am I eligible for HUP? You receive special pricing and concessions outside of hardware discounts and have defined upgrade timelines per your corporate contract with Rogers.

  • marxster
  • Guest

    This is disturbing. I just called Rogers because my on-line account is not showing my info. During the diagnosis he checked a couple things on his side. I'm one year into my contract and their system still shows that I am no eligible for an upgrade. I hoping that his system is not updated yet but with under a day to go it would be nice to have this confirmed.

  • Wesley Mohotoo

    I'm with bell and my contract expires december 2010 for my 3 year contract. I have a $200 credit that goes towards an upgrade. Do you think Bell will put my $200 credit towards the purchase of the new iphone 4 on contract or without?

  • Vartanarsen

    Ex is right. T-Mobile is the only other american carrier using GSM-SIM. Only problem is that Data on T-Mobile via iPhone will be Edge only. To get 3G data, you need to be on AT&T. Voice Caller is perfectly fine though. And no visual vm with TMO.

  • Wei

    Rogers has iPhone 4 HUP eligible check now.
    http://www.rogers.com/web/content/iphone4?cm_sp=Consumer-_-Wireless_iPhone4_0710_Eng-_-iphone4_launch_HOM_PRE_slot1

    Just put in your phone number. I upgraded to 3GS last November. I am now quoted $399 for iPhone 4. Pretty sure it’s based on 3 yrs contract.

  • Matt

    When will we get confirmed pricing and HUP details? Midnight tonight?

  • Vartanarsen

    Finally, you Canadians get something better than us Americans…iPhone Freedom!! hah

  • asdmd

    From what I have heard all phones no matter where you purchase them will come with a microsim.

  • Neil

    Would the sim card from my 3G work in the 4? I can't upgrade until next year with my contract. So would I be able to buy an unlocked 4 and just put my card in?

  • zadigre

    I really hope that they will sell it online… I want to order it online because I don't want to wait 2-3 hours… I have to work at 7am

    It's ok if I do not have my phone NOW… So online is still good to get it next week…

  • asdmd

    Hey Roby, well check how long the line is at 12 or 1, make a judgment call. Hopefully Apple is anticipating large numbers and a large number of staff will be on hand, but we will know all tomorrow. If you are a level 1 on their account then you can do the upgrade, if not, then your folks would have to be there. Just tell them to meet you at 645, you wait they bud inline with you 🙂

  • een

    Had a kinda wonky experience with Bell yesterday.
    Wife and I have the same contract timeline. Just over 2 years into 3 year contract.
    I have the HTC Touch, she the LG Rumour. Both billed similar amounts per month.
    I have been offered full HUP. Yay!
    Wife? Nothing. Nada. Zip. 😛
    She really wants an iP4 as well.
    Soooo, long story short, she's going to have to pay full price so, screw 'em. If it has to be full price might as well get unlocked. Right?
    Except I want the unlocked iP4. heh.
    Fortunately, Bell said that once we're all set up with new hardware we can just flip the numbers. I need mine for my vid biz.
    And I'll have my unlocked iP4. yay! 😀

    een

  • asdmd

    I don't see how they could say that, but lets wait to hear from Ex. Though I believe there are more people wanting to hardware upgrade then there would be new activations, no? Most of us on this site already own iphones and just want the newest one out 🙂

  • een

    Oh yeah.
    And thanks to Gary, Ex…I forget anyone?
    The FAQ is FAQing AWESOME!

    heh.

    een

  • asdmd

    Well are you getting them to buy an full price rogers phone? How will they purchase it or get hardware upgrade on your behalf? Activation won't be a prob., the evening time will hopefully be better, the AM is going to be crazy!

  • asdmd

    Connect to itunes and restore to factory settings?

  • smwphotographs

    Just wondering….I'm in Nova Scotia and rumor has it down here that there are only 200 iPhones being released for all of Canada? Is this correct or just a NASTY rumor? I was told by my local Telus rep. that their phones are on back order and don't know when they will be in, I was told by “The Source” that their rep. told them about the 200 iPhones AND I was told by the Bell rep that if you registered online for iPhone 4 launch day info, then it is considered pre-registering and the first iPhones will go to those customers who registered. Very conflicting information. Any real answers out there? One other thing – if I decide to order the unlocked iPhone on the Apple Store, any idea how long for it to come in? Will it be a case of “shipping in 3 weeks”?

  • asdmd

    You most prob. can buy online, maybe even 12:01 am, full priced unlocked version.

  • asdmd

    You most prob. can buy online, maybe even 12:01 am, full priced unlocked version.

  • vshedler
  • asdmd

    You can use any carrier, but i don't know who else will offer the micro sim besides AT&T. But just call them and ask, they pretty nice on the phone.

  • asdmd

    1. If you buy a factory unlock phone it will never lock!
    2. You will need to jailbreak but if you ever update OS it will most prob. need to be jailbroken again.

  • asdmd

    Call them today if you are sure and just let them know you want an iphone value pack. They don't know or care which one you have. If you are done with your commitment check out other cellular providers and see what they are offering and then take that to rogers.

  • asdmd

    I was just on the site, no change still?

  • asdmd

    Well with this FAQ page, I think it helps, but there are a few of us here that have also been reading all the post, and if they can help Gary or Ex out by answering for them I think that works, no? LOL! (Bc thats what i've been doing)

  • asdmd

    Hey Smw, thats a bunch of BS. Apple is a multi billion dollar company. When Steve said all these countries will be getting shipments on the 30th is bc they had stock, he ain't going to send 200 phones to each Country. What carrier are you with, are you buying locked or unlocked? I think if you order on apple.ca it'll be at least a week bf you get it, but im sure when ordering you'll see the est. date. Otherwise hit up whatever cellular provider you have and wait in line like all of us 🙂

  • asdmd

    Why not just take your sim out and put it in your wife's iphone and she do the same, why flip numbers and go through the hassel?

  • asdmd

    If you buy an unlocked phone from apple it will come with micro sim, and hopefully they will transfer over everything via itunes, thats my guess.

  • asdmd

    LOL, your guess is as good as Rogers!

  • Vartanarsen

    hi.Ex, Gary or anyone…do you know beside GST and HST, is there any Duty on iPhone when driving back to US? Somewhere I had read cellphones are exempt. But then they could classify iPhone as a computer (cause it is), but then again, computers are also Duty-Free i think

  • Natan

    I live close to Yorkdale mall and I was planning on waiting outside the mall… I am gonna get HUP should i wait in line at the apple store or at the rogers store? Since apple store opens at 7 would the rogers store also open at 7 or their regular time of 9 or 10 AM.

    Thanks

  • nosepress

    Is there any chance to buy iPhone in canada and get it in America? I know that apple store will not send them but do you have something like virtual shopping address in Canada? 🙂

  • Ok, I have NO phone / plan right now (work phone). I'm weighing the options between locked and unlocked.

    1. I will probably go with Bell. Can I get their $30/6GB with iPad sharing without a contract? If not, then I guess I'll be going with the locked one.
    2. Can I buy / activate / get a plan with Bell at the Apple store or do I have to go to a Bell store or authorized dealer?

    Thanks

  • een

    Hey asdmd,

    I kinda wondered that myself.

    Anybody know if that would work?

    een

  • Ex

    It's possible. Best to have a backup location to buy the device.

  • Ex

    1.) contract is very likely
    2.) Bell or Apple Store.

  • asdmd

    Nope, come on up to the great white north and grab yourself one, im sure there will be a million on ebay that day!

  • Ex

    Yes.

    You should declare it.

  • asdmd

    Apple 7am, rogers normal hours. Go to apple and if you can get it there great if not run to rogers.

  • Ex

    Restore in iTunes.

  • asdmd

    Why say anything, drive back home, say you went to visit a friend.

  • asdmd

    Hey Ex, Gary or anyone that can answer my question. After seeing all the madness in regards to the iphone I think im just going to order my unlocked phone online. I am also going to local rogers to get a new contract for my brother who needs a phone is Sept. In the mean time bf my unlocked phone gets here can I just purchase another microsim and use his rogers phone as I am on rogers too?

  • Laura

    I called my local Rogers store and they said they are only getting 5 phones in! She then said they have a waitlist and they would be going to them accordingly. I said what if I'm the first one in the door are you to wait and sell it to the first people on the waitlist. That sounds extremely unfair…
    The other Rogers store in my town wouldn't tell me how many they were getting. Probably less than 8. I don't want to wait outside for 4 hours to find out the stupid “waitlist” will override me being there in person.

  • kev

    Everyone talking about the big 3 but anyone knows if Virgin Mobile will have the iphone in stock tomorrow?

  • asdmd

    I don't believe they can wait list for iphone 4, if you are the first person in line, you'll get a phone!

  • Groogrux

    First come first served

  • Babyrocky1

    I just got off the phone with a Rogers customer relations person (long story lol) And she said even thoe the date is saying the 30th there is still a possibility of the date being pushed back… She also said that that happened when the 3g was launched. Just letin you all know 🙂

  • Chow

    hi, according to one of your post in November:

    In other words, Apple Stores across Canada may now be selling iPhone devices without a SIM Card installed. The iPhone will be unlocked until a carrier SIM card is inserted, at which time the iPhone will lock to that carrier’s SIM card. This allows Apple Stores to easily keep track of iPhones because they no longer need to be grouped by carrier. They are all universal, unlocked iPhones until a SIM card is put inside. Clearly this presents some interesting opportunities.

    It seems that the phone will be locked in once a SIM card is populated. is that still valid?

  • Volento

    Well tell her she's an idiot and shouldn't be working there!

  • nosepress

    so you dont have something like virtual address? I likely buy it in online store than in eBay :-)…

  • Only for the contract/subsidized/locked ones. The unlocked ones remain unlocked.

  • Ditto that. I don't recall the 3G being pushed back, either.

  • Supposed to. Call your local store/dealer for info. Best buy for one is going to stock them for virgin.

  • Gadget

    Thats bs, i work at an apple store in the gta…we got our stock on wednesday.

  • Whoever told you this is a moron.

  • I've heard…what was it, 10:30, 11:30, or 12:30 MST. I forget, it was one of the 3. Only a rumour as well.

  • Whiterhino14

    I’m in the same boat and thats why i’m getting ticked off. The apple store for me is 4 1/2 hours away. If i can get it unlocked for sure at the Apple store for 750 or maybe get one from Rogers here who as of yet has no stock for 499.99 than the long drive is starting to sound like a better option.

  • Whiterhino14

    I’m in the same boat and thats why i’m getting ticked off. The apple store for me is 4 1/2 hours away. If i can get it unlocked for sure at the Apple store for 750 or maybe get one from Rogers here who as of yet has no stock for 499.99 than the long drive is starting to sound like a better option.

  • Whiterhino14

    I’m in the same boat and thats why i’m getting ticked off. The apple store for me is 4 1/2 hours away. If i can get it unlocked for sure at the Apple store for 750 or maybe get one from Rogers here who as of yet has no stock for 499.99 than the long drive is starting to sound like a better option.

  • Whiterhino14

    I’m in the same boat and thats why i’m getting ticked off. The apple store for me is 4 1/2 hours away. If i can get it unlocked for sure at the Apple store for 750 or maybe get one from Rogers here who as of yet has no stock for 499.99 than the long drive is starting to sound like a better option.

  • Whiterhino14

    I’m in the same boat and thats why i’m getting ticked off. The apple store for me is 4 1/2 hours away. If i can get it unlocked for sure at the Apple store for 750 or maybe get one from Rogers here who as of yet has no stock for 499.99 than the long drive is starting to sound like a better option.

  • Whiterhino14

    I’m in the same boat and thats why i’m getting ticked off. The apple store for me is 4 1/2 hours away. If i can get it unlocked for sure at the Apple store for 750 or maybe get one from Rogers here who as of yet has no stock for 499.99 than the long drive is starting to sound like a better option.

  • Nobody can confirm anything. Details haven't been announced by carriers. Take everything with a grain of salt until then. Rumour is that everybody at rogers can upgrade early, don't know if that's true, don't know if fido is doing the same.

  • Activation, assuming the servers will go down, could take 1-4 hours, approximately–depends on your luck.

  • Read the FAQ posted ON THIS PAGE. PLEASE.

  • Nothing's been confirmed, strong rumours are:
    All carriers on contract: $199 16gb, $299 32gb
    All carriers locked but no contract, or apple store unlocked: $649-699 16gb, $749-799 32gb

  • Not entirely correct, I believe AT&T is the only one supporting GSM/3G right now. I may be missing one or two, but it's certainly not all of them. So yes, get it from AT&T. Walk into a store and you should be able to find something good.

  • Ex

    T-Mobile I believe is SIM/GSM as well.

  • Smwphotographs

    Right on….I called Apple directly and they indicated that the rumor is definitely incorrect 🙂 Also, called Bell and they told me that what the Bell rep said is also correct. Telus and the Source, yes, probably on back order until who knows when! I am currently with Telus, but will cancel my contract and go with Bell if I can get a phone from them before Telus.

  • smwphotographs

    I should say, my local Telus stores….all TWO of them!

  • achilles

    Unbelievable, less than 24 hours before launch and no plans released yet. The big 3 disgust me…

  • Guest

    Does anyone think Apple will have fixed the antenna issue that has been going on? because I don't want to go buy a phone if I'm going to have to wait another 3-8 weeks to get a free case from Apple just so I don't have to worry about dropping calls. 🙁

  • Whiterhino14

    The Iphone 4 launched in Australia a few a hours ago. Supplies are already scarce. The funny thing is their apple.au website still shows the Iphone 4 as ” Coming Soon” It stands to reason that our launch will go ahead as planned but how soon we can buy unlocked iphones online is another question.

  • Hyperextension

    Yes declare it. The border can be tricky and if they decided to inspect you and your receipts, you are screwed. I was in the USA once for less than 24 hours when I was younger, and of course me and my friend were bringing back booze. They asked how long we were there, and I lied and said 2 days (making our booze okay to bring back to Canada). They went through my car and found gas receipts and asked…”if you were in the USA for 2 days, how come there is a gas receipt from Vancouver, BC just 8 hours ago? oops.

  • Anonymous

    Rogers released information on iPhone Upgrades!
    http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/iphone-4-launches-tomorrow-on-rogers/

    They also updated their online site so you can check your hardware upgrade pricing…

    Unfortunately for me it’s only like $30 more to buy the unlocked phone

  • Anonymous

    Rogers released information on iPhone Upgrades!
    http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/iphone-4-launches-tomorrow-on-rogers/

    They also updated their online site so you can check your hardware upgrade pricing…

    Unfortunately for me it’s only like $30 more to buy the unlocked phone

  • Anonymous

    Rogers released information on iPhone Upgrades!
    http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/iphone-4-launches-tomorrow-on-rogers/

    They also updated their online site so you can check your hardware upgrade pricing…

    Unfortunately for me it’s only like $30 more to buy the unlocked phone

  • Anonymous

    Rogers released information on iPhone Upgrades!
    http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/iphone-4-launches-tomorrow-on-rogers/

    They also updated their online site so you can check your hardware upgrade pricing…

    Unfortunately for me it’s only like $30 more to buy the unlocked phone

  • Erinbowers12

    if you haven't upgraded your phone after june 2010 you are eligible to upgrade to an iphone 4 with rogers.

  • Hyperextension

    That is what I did. I bought a Micro-SIM (actually it is a multi-SIM) and transferred my account to it already. When I get the i4, I can just pop it in and I am ready to go.

  • Noeyak

    You forgot to mention that everyone should bring some duct tape while they wait for their cases.

  • Vicky

    I think Im going to cry! There sooo much stuff but I feel like nothing has been confirmed!!! With an exception for the July 30 release date (or so we think lol). It's less than 24 hours away – how could they not release pricing or upgrade details. I went to the rogers store in the mall and the guy told me the upgrade from any iphone would be at NO COST if you've had it for more than 6 months. My father didn't believe me so he called rogers the next day and the lady said she has absolutely no idea what my dad was talking about and that standard upgrade prices would apply. I think my brain is going to explode!!

    Does any know off hand when you buy a new phone from rogers do I have to pay for it on the spot – or can/will they charge it to my monthly bill?

    and where do you think the best place to buy an iPhone 4 will be tomorrow? I don't live close to an apple store.. so either 1 of many rogers locations or future shop???

    Thanks.

  • Silverjunkie

    Curious question – I'm with Rogers and would prefer to go into an Apple Store and get the new iphone. Does the apple store require you to pay upfront or can it be put on my rogers account? Not sure if this question has been answered (apologies in advance) If not, I guess I'll have to visit a Rogers store.

  • smwphotographs

    Oh, and the Apple rep also told me that there will be online ordering for the unlocked phone, but that shipping will begin in 3 weeks….so much for me having my phone to go on vacation to Newfoundland 🙁

  • Gmore

    I have a Blackberry Tour – how easy is the switch over from the Tour to the Iphone 4? I have a Mac workstation and have synced my blackberry to this. I am buying the iphone 4 outright from the Apple store as I don't qualify for any upgrades yet through Bell. Can I use the card that is in my Tour or what? This is a great blog – so much great information – thanks for the good work!

  • Travis9877

    interesting………i am in halifax and just got off the phone with rogers guy at the store near my place…..they have 5 phones!!!

    apparently apple is not interested in setting any records here.

  • Smwphotographs

    Thats just crazy….Can you call a Telus store and see what they say? I'd be interested to know if they are on backorder there as well.

  • asdmd

    They will charge your rogers account, the best place……your guess is as good as anyone else's, hopefully you pick the right spot!

  • Calliope

    I'm feeling like the Apple Store is my best bet. The microSIM is free, I can probably get a free case right away, and they won't be out after tomorrow morning (I can't line up in the AM). And it's better than dealing with Rogers, who don't like doing instore HUPs.

  • marcr

    Does anybody know what the procedure will be at the Square One Apple store in Mississauga? I know they open at 7am but what time will the mall open to let people in? Is there a designated mall entrance that people need to line up at?

  • kev

    Just call virgin and the guy told me that they don't know when they will have it. Also their website still display that Iphone 4 is coming but no date at all.

  • Cassie

    I spoke with Rogers customer relations and they cannot confirm whether the $30/6G data plan will be available, but it is likely since they rolled that out the last two times when they rolled out the iphone. With that being said, she also said something about being able to order the phone online tomorrow – suggesting that you could do your upgrades over the Rogers website.

  • Anthony Totarella

    I hope it will be in the at least hundreds of thousands.

  • Clim28

    Do you expect lineups for iPhones purchased from Bell stores?

  • mayflyripper

    Virgin and Bell are offering a 6BG plan for $30 (it was a last minute requested change to the sites to be deployed tonight) so we can also assume Rogers is offering the plan too. A well, the prices for the iPhone 4 without a contract from Virgin & Bell is $649.99 for the 16GB and $749.99 for the 32GB.

  • Marc45

    More info than I got. I'm in Halifax too and when I called the closest store they said they didn't have any yet.

  • Jarndt08

    The Apple store can do anything the Rogers store can do. They put the money on your bill just as if Rogers would.

  • Zilly

    Gary, I have a question… to buy unlocked from apple.ca, do i HAVE to have a credit card?? Is there ANY other way I can pay them? If not, could I borrow your credit card # tomorrow?? Thanks 🙂

  • Zilly

    I mean online –

  • Whereisiphone4

    SERIOUSLY! There gonna make us wait till tomorrow for “official pricing”!!! COME ON!

  • Naveen

    I'm pretty sure the tour doesn't use a microSIM and as such you CAN NOT switch it into your iPhone 4 – you'll have to go to your carrier and get them to switch you to a microSIM.

  • Yes. These stores will, mostly, have 5-20 units based on size–except perhaps the very largest in the biggest cities having more.

  • You don't have to worry about that in Canada. It was blown way out of proportion in the States, and down there they're stuck with AT&T's crappy network. They've always had dropped calls, I don't know anyone up here who has. It'll be fine here. If you still want a case, go nuts–hell, with the free case promotion, I might as well get one too.

  • Best Buy Mobile is known to be carrying it. Wait until later today when the other carriers (rogers, bell, etc) release info, Virgin will probably update around then as well. At that time, call a few different local stores. Again, Best Buy Mobile has confirmed they're carrying it for Virgin.

  • Also a distinct possibility. We'll see in a day.

  • Yick
  • Wgmonkepsy

    Telus has changed the iPhone image to that of an iPhone 4 on their phones and devices page, that is all lol

  • Guest

    Alright cool. Yea I was going to get a case anyways because I just know I'll be drunk one night and end up dropping it and breaking that glass. Thanks!

  • I plan to for sure pick up a Bell locked subsidized phone. I also may want to pick up a Rogers locked subsidized phone.

    Anyone have previous experience (like with the 3GS) know if would I be able to line up once at the Apple Store and do these both? Or would I have to line up twice because Im doing it with two different carriers? I'd be hitting the Eaton's Centre, but any Apple Store probably does it the same way. You would think they might streamline carrier purchases into separate lines.

    If they would make me line up twice, I'll just go to a Bell store and be the first in line there.

  • Chrome262

    By the way, they have removed the option to reserve your iphone for store pick up on the apple store. Before it gave you option, but the iphone was listed as unavailable, but now its not even there. More proof that they will probably have it set up for direct orders through the site of full price phones.

  • Me

    From what I've read on here, the shipments of phones are coming with bumper cases, to go with each purchase? Can someone confirm?

  • RDS

    Called Bell and set up the shared account for 2nd phone (wife already with Bell, I am moving from Rogers), they gave me confirmation number, employee number, so basically I walk in and pay for the iPhone Friday morning.
    He offered to ship next week and be billed, I declined and said will pick up tomorrow instead at my neighbourhood BellWorld. Gave me prices on contract, 16Gb for $159.99, and 32GB for $269.99. He did say he does not know how many will be stocked in-store. Called Rogers later the have no info, told them I am leaving as Bell already gave me info. Screw Robbers.

  • Cashinstinct

    BESTBUY INFO –

    If you want to go at Best Buy, call your store today…

    I was told between 2 and 3 Rogers-Fido units, depending the store I called (even though all iPhone are the same, it seems Best Buy plans how many they want to sell for each provider). I was told only 16 gigs for the stores I called (YMMV!

    Therefore, it's not likely worth to line up at Best Buy, unless you have Best Buy gift cards or really want the value of $31.25 in reward points.

  • asdmd

    Good job! I have no clue why rogers won't release any info, im stuck with them otherwise id hit up Bell too.

  • asdmd

    Apple store is the best way for you, limit is 2 phones so I doubt they will have issues.

  • vshedler

    I was considering buy my iphone 4 from future shop… now im not so sure!!
    Thanks for the info!

  • poor_student

    Hey Ex or anyone else,

    Will the Apple store do VirginMobile contracts?
    Thanks.

  • Whiterhino14

    I don't get this game thats being played by our carriers & Apple. People need to make their decisions on what route they want to take and what company to go with. Why confuse your potential customers by keeping us in the dark.
    On top of that every CSR person you talk to at each company gives you a totally different answer. They don't even know what the heck is going on. Honestly, this BS attitude is making me sick……………I'm having thoughts of turning to the dark side.

  • vshedler

    buying*

  • Ex

    Yes

  • chances are the rogers guy in the mall was a third party deal, who just sells rogers products, as opposed to a Rogers Plus location that is directly connected with rogers.

  • chances are the rogers guy in the mall was a third party deal, who just sells rogers products, as opposed to a Rogers Plus location that is directly connected with rogers.

  • Lypse14

    I was wondering…

    I'm thinking of picking up a subsidized iphone 4…I'm planning on getting the cheapest voice plan, and add a data option (as opposed to a voice+data plan). As far as I know the EFC on data plans is $100 with rogers, so I figure:

    phone+EFC = 199 + 100 = sweet phone on monthly rate that suits me better (don't need a data plan because I'm almost always around a wifi area)

    So my question is, can this work?

  • Roby145

    Gary,
    Ex,

    Will rogers keep us in the dark or do you think they'll announce something by the end of today? I don't wanna wait like 4 hours and find out that it was for nothing, what do you think is gonna happen?

    Also, if you get it at Rogers, will you be able to get the bumpre/third party case there (Rogers Store?

    Lastly, do you think they'll have more 16gb in stock or 32gb by the time it comes to me (planning to wait around 6, store opens at 10)?

    Thank you for your replies. 🙂

  • Nando83p

    dude, its 2:30 am in Australia, the iphone hasnt launched yet. Why do you have to give false info?

  • BirbBiet

    Just called my local Bell/Aliant store and she said that her shipment was on backorder and that it is happening to a lot of other places as well. She didn't know when they would be getting them either. Just thought I'd let people know. I also live in a small town though so that could be the only reason.

  • Laura

    I'm planning to do the same thing. You will have to keep your data add on for at least one month though and then you can cancel for $100.

  • Anyone call the Calgary Apple Store to find out their stock levels? I don't want to bother with Bell store or other resellers that will only have 5 phones. I don't feel like getting up at 4am and standing outside. I may just wait for a week or two…

  • vshedler

    how small of a town?

  • Aslam Nathoo

    Another question/answer to add to your list:

    If I'm getting my iPhone 4 via Hardware Upgrade, can I go directly to the Apple Store to get it or do I have to go to a Rogers retailer store like Wireless Wave, etc.?

    I have already confirmed with Rogers that I am eligible for HUP to any smartphone including iPhone 4. However I have heard some saying that the Apple Store will only do New Activations and not HUPs. Is this true or will they also do HUPs?

  • Manissa

    hi, do you know which carrier has the best plan? they all seem to have same prices but wonder what people tend to prefer..please let me know

  • Ex

    What are you waiting for exactly?

    No. The bumpers are through Apple.

    They'll have both, but probably more 16GB

  • Jarndt08

    Apple store will do HUPS and that's probably your best bet as they will haave the most stock

  • BirbBiet

    Population around 4000-5000 people

  • funk

    will best buy sell for $159 too or is that rogers only?

  • Manissa

    Hi all,
    tell me what'a your preference for the best carrier and why,
    I wanted buy the iphone 4 on 30 Jul but don't know which company I should chose, one is worse than the other,
    my biggest hick is that none have unlimited incoming calls, and no company has a plan for north-america calls…any idea, very much appreciated

  • Firat Ataman

    Waiting to find our upgrade policy…

  • wilyo

    Just got off the phone with Fido… They are going to be releasing all info tomorrow morning at 8AM HUP is 14 months into contract, no specials he said

  • Ex

    K. I'll do some digging.

  • agyvr

    Are there any advantages to buying an iPhone 4 factory unlocked as opposed to buying an iPhone 4 under contract with the big 3 and then getting it unlocked by a third party ($25) and then breaking the contract with the big 3? Does it work out to be the same price in the end? Are there any issues/problems when you get the iPhone unlocked by a third party such as OS updates, etc.? Thanks

  • rk

    hey guys…does anyone know that if you buy an unlocked iphone from an apple store and if there is any issue with it after, can you return it and get the full refund or exchange….if so how many days can you return it?…also any restocking fees/…thanks guys…

  • asdmd

    Im pretty sure its 15 days, but you should confirm, and yes I believe there is a restocking fee. Just call apple to get the details though.

  • asdmd

    Im pretty sure it works out to the same or almost the same, and if you plan is to do all that, why not just buy the unlocked in the first place?

  • Curious G

    Walked into a Rogers store in Montreal and was told that they would not be doing hardware upgrades for the iPhone 4 until they sold 50 on new contracts first. They explained that they needed to fill a quota put in place by Apple in order to maintain the level of stock they receive.
    This seems very odd to me. Has anybody else heard this from their local store?

  • asdmd

    You can go to rogers or apple they will do your HUP

  • Vk

    Okay I am planning to buy it from the apple store in rideau centre in Ottawa. Anyone else heading there? if so what are your plans. When are you planning to line up and where? if the mall only opens at 6 will you guys be lining up outside the mall? if so where outside the mall? I have never done this before and have no idea where to start because I dont want to end up with no phone after all the effort!

  • Firat Ataman

    Upgrade Policy is a big one, it would suck to line up in the morning wait for few hours then get told that I have to pay full price, which I wont at Rogers store, much prefer to go to Apple Store in Vancouver one weekend and buy it unlocked.

  • Wei

    I checked with two BB stores yesterday and they all said they don't know until tonight. I think I will call again whether they accept Rogers HUP or just new activations. I want to use my BB gift card and gift certificates but not sure they gonna charge to my Rogers account instead. Anyone knows??

  • rk

    thankx bud….

  • James

    Sorry for my ignorance, but say I have a 3 year contract with Bell and I buy an unlocked iPhone 4 direct from Apple (b/c I have giftcards, credit, etc) can I get a SIM card from Bell with basically my rate plan, phone number, services, etc for a fee to use that phone? or do I have to go pay as you go?

  • Bludragonflie

    so since fida and rogers are the same rogers will most likely have the same HUP program going on

  • Bludragonflie

    i havn't got any work on virgin releasing the iphone 4 tomorrow and i work tech, i've asked and nothing is out

  • It'll be easy. Make sure you get your contacts synced to your Mac address book. Then sync your iPhone with that address book via iTunes.

    You'll get a microSIM with the iPhone 4–which won't work with the Tour. Enjoy your upcoming phone and thanks for reading!

  • mayflyripper

    the content changes have already been coded and are queued up for release tonight

  • When the store goes live, you'll need a CC.

    Sure you can borrow mine. Here's my VISA number: 1234 5678 9012 3456 expiry: 01/2012

    😉

  • manissa

    guys, we just get questions in here, no one has an answer to these questions?

  • marxster

    The “eligibility checker” is now online on the fido page. Go to the main page. On the iphone page where it says “learn more”, click and you'll see the checker on the bottom right.

  • So the Fido pricing is: $159 and $269, not bad! 🙂

  • Radiopearl

    If I buy it unlocked (which I want to do) can I transfer my current plan onto a new sim..how does that work?????

    This is ridiculous! Why is there not more info!!! Isn't this thing getting released for sale tomorrow????

  • marcr

    I used my Rogers number for the hell of it and got…..

    “You are eligible to purchase the 16GB iPhone 4 at $649 or the 32GB iPhone 4 at $749. You may use your FidoDollars towards the purchase price. Terms & conditions apply.”

  • Laura

    I hope the big three are the same!

  • marxster

    Here are my results:
    You are eligible to upgrade to iPhone 4 16GB at $159 (after a $490 bill credit or discount off the no-term price) and 32GB at $269 (after a $480 bill credit or discount off the no-term price), each with a 3 year Fido Agreement and Data Add-on. You may use your FidoDollars towards the purchase price Full conditions below, see in-store for details.
    iPhone 4 will be available as of July 30th, 2010, at which time you can upgrade by visiting your nearest Fido store or Fido authorized reseller Fido will not be taking pre-orders for the iPhone 4.

    Learn more about our hardware upgrade offers in our iPhone FAQs

  • Neda

    Waht??! Free invisible shield on top of all the info you guys hand out?! Yay!

    Do I just go around screaming Gary on Friday morning? lol

  • Ex

    Maybe we are already there!

  • runkpocker

    Rogers eligibility checker is live, but it isnt working.

    I bought 2 3G phones with they came out, and my contract is 2 years in, but it tells me that both numbers are not eligible (full price is returned)

    lame

  • Re-read the FAQ carefully. It's being updated constantly.

  • Laura

    Available info up on Rogers!

  • Hyperextension

    That checker has to be WRONG!! I checked all my numbers and there are 2 that are for sure eligible and it tells me I can buy them for 649/749. Its not working.

  • Fido

    So if you purchase at BestBuy will you be able to use your Fido dollars to put toward the phone, like you would if calling Fido directly?

  • ShawnV

    I can't find it..

  • Laura

    Same with me but I used a pay as you go number… I will get the $159 price… the $40 discount is worth all the extra effort!

  • marxster

    Oh, and given that I have $108 in Fido Dollars saved up, the phone is going to cost me a whopping $41. Yesssss…

  • Wei

    Must be lots ppl using it. I just get a gray transparent page with nothing on it.

  • Yes!

  • Hyperextension

    It is not working. I just entered the landline number of a client of mine in the USA and it said the same thing as mine. NOT WORKING! So dont panic like I did.

  • zeus268

    WTF? So I'm eligible to upgrade at full price? Fuck off Rogers…. Why wouldn't I buy it unlocked if it's full price?

  • Wei

    Actually turns out to be at the bottom. Used my Rogers phone number and go the same too.

  • asdmd

    Wow rogers did something effective. Upgrade eligibility, prices, i'll have to give them props, better late then never.

  • marxster

    Why would it be working if you type in a US number? All this thing does is it checks to see when you bought a phone with fido…

  • asdmd

    Prices are better then we thought!

  • TELUS

    WHAT ABOUT TELUS?! Rogers & Bell are the only ones with actual plans/news. Telus hasn't moved at all every since it announced that it was coming out July 30th… Obviously the plans are going to be the same but what about HUP? I have a feeling lack of this info might just slow down lines.

  • marxster

    I just tried it again with my girlfriend's number and it works just fine!

  • sarahbeara

    Pricing is up on the rogers site!!!!

    $159/$269 on a 3 year contract

    cheaper than we thought…

  • capple

    that is exactly what I was thinking really, its F#$%&ing disgusting those guys (rogers,bell,tellus, fido) have no respect for people. I mean WTF are they thinking. its the afternoon before lunch day and no one still knows a thing, some people are 2-3 hours away from an apple store it would be normal to know by now whats going on to make your decision if you need to go to apple or go to a local store, but they aren't releasing any info they act like its info about the WW3 give me freaking break already. honestly i'm so sick of it as i'm sure many of you are too

  • ShawnV

    I entered the Fido Customer Service chat. Even though the upgrade eligibility thing says I can use my Fido Dollars towards it. The customer service rep said that there is still no new info on doing so.

    Oh Fido.

  • Whiterhino14

    I just check my upgrade options on the Rogers site. I got my 3GS last June with the full meal deal and I have to pay full effing price for a locked iPhone 4. Rogers can go straight to hell

  • ShawnV

    Oh and also, I'm pretty sure the eligibility check is broken. I've just been entering random numbers and it always says 649 price.

  • sam

    Helloooooooooo BIG stupid 3 and apple its Thursday afternoon still nothing.

  • Livininvic

    Rogers has updated their iPhone page. They have an upgrade eligibility button. I got my 3GS on launch day last year, and I'm able to buy the 16 GB for $649 and the 32GB for $749.

    Looks like no early upgrades like last year 🙁

  • ShawnV

    I think it's broken. Check back later on it. Probably too many people using it.

  • CHRISPERRO

    for people with FIDO, they will add the 3 YEARS on TOP of the remainder of your contract if you want to UPGRADE, so be carefull or you will get a 4 years contract or more.

  • asdmd

    Great Post, I think this pretty much answers everything!

  • Stephenh

    Wow I get one for $269.00 on my 3 year term! Yippee!!! I am not standing in line.. did that once…I will order it by phone.

  • Stephenh

    Oops that was with Rogers who just released the check upgrade eligibility online now.

  • Jessica

    so not good to buy from rogers??? I don't have any current plan, what do you recommend? waiting for advise

  • marcr

    year,I should be eligible for the cheap upgrade but it says I have to pay full price.

    I should be getting:
    “Did you activate or upgrade the original iPhone 3G in 2008 and then upgrade again between June 19 and September 15, 2009?
    You’re also eligible for at least $480 off the no-term device price. You can pick up an iPhone 4 16GB/32GB for $159/$269 on a new 3-year voice and data plan.”

  • ShawnV

    How do you know? I have a year and a half left on my contract, so you're saying, I would be with fido for 4 and a half years?

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  • runkpocker

    its broken. I called them and they told me I am eligible. The website is telling me I am not… bug in their code.

  • helen

    hey I was wondering the same thing.
    I asked rogers they said the max cancellation fee for voice and data plan is $500.. so 500+159$ is exactly 659$! So it's much better off to buy the unlocked version, unless you have faith that you can pass on your contract to someone else 🙂

  • Yick

    So I called every Bell Store in town, four of them have a waiting list and one of them isn't even getting a shipment.

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  • Jessica

    thanks, I meant people questions! what is the best carrier, what people vote, I'm seeing a lot of critics over Rogers, I,d like to have people opinions on different carriers…any idea?? much appreciated

  • Awesome rundown.
    I didn't see this answered anywhere but will rogers unlock a phone that you fully paid for, if you completed your contract with them? So that I can sell the old iPhone? Are locked iPhone forever locked (unless unlocked by iPhone Dev apps)

  • vshedler

    tiny.cc/0ouhl
    ^ Link to rogers redboard clarification on upgrading – despite what the eligibility checker says.

  • Diegese

    I was so excited when I received an emial from Fido 5 mins ago! Damn that was jsut my monthly bill! I tought for a second they cared about their old customers and former csr (back in 1996 yeah, yeah… the first year).

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  • Eyesparalyze

    I haven't heard anything about Virgin ( who I am currently with, no data plan, basic phone). Is this a good service provider? I never know when the nex time I will be moving is (whether this is in Canada or not). What are the pros and cons to iphone with virgin if you know?

  • Pecator

    So, do I have this right?

    All Apple phones are locked
    All carrier phones are unlocked
    And we get a lollipop when we buy a data package?

    Please be a bit clearer!!!!!

    hehehehehe

    Great post. very helpful

  • Does anyone know how many unlocked iPhones I will be able to buy from the Apple Store? Will I need to use a CC, or will cash work? Thanks in advance

  • No.

    Yes.

  • Kian7001

    there is one important question left, obviously buying unlock iphone 4 from apple is better, BUT are the fido or other carrier let me use my existence 6G data plan, or they push you to buy it from them so it be unlock?

  • Dezumondo

    $399 + 3 yr agreement. 1 month left of contract. Nice try, Fido!

  • asdmd

    Either would work fine, why wouldn't you think cash would work?

  • Speed wise most examples I've seen put Bell and TELUS ahead of Rogers, probably just because their network isn't as loaded with users yet – our company uses TELUS but they are still using the CDMA network with out BlackBerrys etc.

    Also, Bell seems to have better coverage in the areas I care about – remote locations in northern Alberta

  • helen

    2 iphones per customer

  • helen

    Question: So i won't be in town tomorrow and i have asked my bf to get me the unlocked iphone 4. Can I go on a later day/time to do the sim > microsim switch over thing? Anyone know?

  • J-wal

    What store did you call?

  • Whiterhino14

    I just went to my local Bell and rogers store. neither have gotten any stock in yet they are expecting small #'s if they do get them. The Rogers manager didn't even know when he was going to open if he does get stock because head office has told their people nothing. I had to inform him of the upgrade policy as posted now on Red Boards.
    unflipping believable!!!!!!!!! Who is running this Gong show? Chipmunks??? Of course the upgrade button has a bug in it. Rogers forced everybody into checking all at once seeing how we have a couple of hours to decide what we are going to do and messed up the system. Sorry for the rant, just sick of this shoddy treatment.

  • Covergirl9

    I'm planning to go there…probably at the entrance on Nicholas street (the closest one to the Apple Store). And don't be fooled: the mall opens at 5am not 6am! It's my first time getting an iPhone too…I'm just planning the way I think I have to and since Apple stores are going to have plenty of devices, I'm pretty sure you'll have a phone if you go early morning (wherever you are in line) 😉

  • Roger's sucks according to them I can upgrade my 3G for $745?!? WTF lol

  • The tool is broken. It's being fixed.

  • So who's going to wait in line in Montreal and what time are you going to be there ?

  • Whiterhino14

    Apple customers in the states were give 30 days from apple to make sure they were satisfied with the phone and had no call issues Rogers gives us ” Quote”
    “If you are not completely satisfied with your new iPhone 4 you may return or exchange the device within 15 days of purchase; providing that there are no more than 30 minutes of voice usage, and the device and all the packaging and contents are returned in like new condition”
    So if you make 5 call and then find out you have a problem you're screwed!

  • Renaudsteve

    just called at futureshop in quebec city ,,, they have only 11 of them for tomorrow … hahahah , hate them anyway, hope fido store have more

  • ThumpinJD

    shout out to people in montreal who are lining up! Sainte-Catherine store anyone? and at wht time?

  • Mtlscream

    I guess a good guess woud be in the middle of the night… when ae you planning to be there ?

  • helen

    Hi I just spoke to an Apple representative on the phone.
    FYI:
    1. they expect it to be sold out within an hour or so
    2. apple will NOT transfer data from sim to micro sim, this is done at your service provider – is this contradictory to the FAQ above?

  • Ex

    Don't worry. They misunderstood you. Apple will transfer your number over.
    Takes 30 seconds.

  • helen

    so if someone is getting it for me, can they do that later when i get to town?

  • Ex

    Yep

  • VancouverBlade

    But what about the first comment re expectation to sell out in the first out. Seems hard to think that Apple won't have any stock left by 8am; not a good PR story there.

  • Ex

    Misinformation.

  • Covergirl9

    Just talked to a Fido rep and she said that the chances that I'm going to actually get a phone tomorrow are thin. I was like…who are you to tell me that? I'm going to line up bright and early tomorrow morning but she said a lot of people are camping outside because there's ''too much demands in Canada''………
    I'm still going bright and early tomorrow morning and hope Apple Stores are getting a lot of units for people who are going to be there on Friday (morning).

  • Scarlet

    Unbelievable !!! Only in Canada would the top cell phone carriers NOT have final pricing the day before a major release like iPhone 4 …. Especially Telus and Bell ???!!!!! Just boggles the mind – i guess they want us to show up, give our credit cards, sign any agreement and just shut up ! Typical monopolists ! This country needs MORE competition (( and I'm talkng about WIND Moble et al ))) .

  • DaveMcG

    Yes, and if you are with Rogers, you can do it yourself online at the MyRogers portal

  • Gmore

    True I just called my Bell store and they also only have 2 units for tomorrow. The guy there said that they will get more in about a week or so. He also said that I CAN buy an unlocked phone (outright sale) from Bell so it is not just Apple that have them. When I insert the simcard, phone will be locked to whatever carrier the sim card is. But I am going to try my Apple store to see if I can get one there tomorrow and if not, I will wait and buy an unlocked one from Bell.

  • Spleenzorio

    I just called my Bell store and I am the 4th person on the list for a 32gb iPhone 4, but they are telling me they might only be getting a handful of phones in tomorrow. They are also telling me they are opening at the normal hour, 10 am, and you will only be getting a phone if you are on the list so people in line will be wasting their time. I also called one of the Best Buys in my area and they are only getting 2 iPhone 4s for Bell, I didn't bother asking about the other carriers but I'm sure they wouldn't be getting more for them. I suggest calling whichever place you are planning on getting your phone (other than the Apple Store) and seeing if there's a list

  • bruno

    this page is exellent. please answer me something. i´m from argentina and i´m travelling to canada next week and i want to buy the new iphone(unlocked ofcourse). the problem is that i am currently using a comon SIM card. you say above that they will change it for a microSIM card, how is it going to be? please explain me tahat because is the only thing i don´t understand. thank you continue working like this…

  • Trevolangelo

    What Apple Store?

  • Gmore

    If you buy a phone 4, you will get a microsim with it. You cannot use a normal sim card in the iphone 4. So all your data will have to be transferred from your normal sim onto your new one. Your carrier will do this for you.

  • mel12345

    if you're eligible for a hardware upgrade than the price is the same as a new customer. $159 for 16 GB and $269 for the 32 GB with a voice and data plan that adds up to at least $45

  • Must be fixed.. its showing the correct price for me now

  • bbb

    i was just there at pacific. didn't see any gary or ex looking dudes

  • Pablo

    Just got off the phone with Rogers. And they told me Apple will only be doing upgrades for Rogers and Fido tomorrow. Any truth to this?

  • digik9

    Apple stores will have plenty of stock.

  • Ex

    Hahahaha

    you know what we look like?!?!?!

    Pro Tip: I have never been seen!

  • Sfong1982

    I'm with telus and my brother is with rogers and i plan to go to the apple store.We are both eligible for HUP. Will Apple store allow me to get the phone for my brother's acct? Thanks

  • draz

    You have to be an Authorized User Level 1 with Rogers… and even if you are it is unknown if Apple store will let you upgrade as most of Rogers own stores don't allow anyone but the primary owner to upgrade.

  • Rossb44

    Apologize I dont feel like scrolling thru all the msg but what time will the apple store online sell phones online?

  • draz

    Yes

  • zholy

    Boooya!!

    $30 for 6GB is awesome!

    Take that AT&T! Ok ok we have the 3 years contract thingy but still

  • pangs

    ok why would anyone get the iphone 4 from a carrier store without contract but locked when they can get it from apple store for same price unlocked?

  • Wes

    Steve said iPhone 4 has full refund. Does this apply to Canada?

  • Lil' Wil

    I'm Confused As Hell, We Only Have Bell/Telus/Solo Where I Live And This May Be My First Phone So Can Someone Give Me Some Info On The Contract Deal With Bell

  • helen

    it says above:
    Can I return my iPhone 4 for a full refund if I don’t like it? How long do I have?
    – Yes. You have 14 days to get a full refund on undamaged iPhone 4 units.

    Will I be charged a restocking fee?
    – No.

  • Portacio6

    Do you guys think that the supplies will last at least before afternoon? for Vancouver City Centre apple store?

  • Aol

    this release was aother flop, how could apple be makig money if they are ticking of there customers
    makes no scense….

  • Joe+

    yes I called the Apple Yorkdale in Toronto and the girl told me they can do HUP no matter if you're with Rogers or Fido

  • Joe+

    that's not true according to Fido on twitter..they reply me with quote
    “Actually for this iPhone offer, we're not stacking. You'll begin a new contract at 3 years. “
    that's the reply I got from them…

  • Ex

    They have over 1,000 devices

  • Portacio6

    So Its most likely for me to get one at that time! thx!! 🙂

  • Ispaz

    Is apple even going to be selling unlocked iPhones online on Friday?

  • Wes

    Can I use the pre-paid plan, $20/month from Rogers for example, with the unlocked iPhone 4?

  • bullie2

    This post is wrong.
    I upgraded my phone in 2008 October and I was not eligible for an upgrade to iPhone 4.

  • Drdul

    Good question. I, too, would like to know what options I would have with an unlocked iPhone. I don't need many hours and 250 MB of data would be enough. What cheap-o plans would I be able to take advantage of that would justify the $500 higher up-front cost of an unlocked phone?

  • asdmd

    You need to talk to rogers, that is not possible.

  • asdmd

    You can use any existing plan you have. If it has data or not is your choice.

  • asdmd

    Yes you can order online…………..3 weeks till they ship!

  • Applesux

    If I buy it from the big 3 with a contract, will they offer an option to unlock it after (or maybe before, with a fee) the contract expires, just like they do in Europe?

  • Applerox

    If I buy the iPhone 4 locked from the big 3 with a contract, will they unlock it after the contract is expired, like they do in Europe?

  • Patrick

    Why people are buying iphone4 knowing that the antenna has problem and when the phone is gripped in a certain way, it can cause reception and bandwidth to drop.
    Please help me to understand and not wait until apple fix the issue?

  • Lucjackwill

    Because People Buying Apple Products Is A Fad! Duh!

  • Patrick

    You pay full price on a phone that is not working 100%. Well when you shop, you are looking for a new and reliable phone.

  • helen

    can someone tell me how to properly charge this baby the first time??

  • Jacquie

    I lined up and didn't get a iphone 4 they are sold out, when do more come in?

  • Scuppers

    I am eligible for a hardware upgrade at Bell. They tell me it has a value of $200. So I am thinking I can get the 32mb iPhone for $69. Wrong! If you're upgrading the price of the 32mb is $469. So you end up paying the same $269 as new customers. This is not made clear until you actually try to do the upgrade in the store.

  • Wes

    Can I use pre-paid for an unlocked iPhone 4 in Canada?

  • Joy2775

    today am going to buy the iphone 4 is it still available or sold out? i mean in any apple store
    thx

  • Yayyo

    If I purchase my iPhone from the Apple store unlocked and put my new micro sim card, that comes with, in it. Will I have to commit to a 3 year data plan with my carrier of choice? Or can I use the phone as a phone, and only use wifi hot spots?

  • Kola619

    Our Telus store in St. John's, NL, only got TWELVE iPhone 4s!!!!! I didn't get one. Do you know when the next shipment will come in? If not, how will we find out?

  • Nicolas

    Hey,
    I want to go get an Iphone 4 at telus tomorrow.
    I live in quebec.

    Do you think they'll have it in stock?
    When should I go? Should I call first to ask them to keep one for me?
    Please help I don't know what to do…

    Thanks!

  • David_zhao

    When will the next iphone 4s come?

  • David_zhao

    When will the next iphone 4s come???

  • Montain-girl

    when will they recieve more

  • Ed

    I've been calling around (here in Calgary) and I've been told that all iphones in Canada are unlocked, even those sold through carriers. Can anyone confirm?

  • Pinekiwi

    Rogers has online eligible check by typing in your number and postal code. one of my friend got the same price as new customer but his girlfriend got the full price for upgrade

  • Pinekiwi

    iPhone 4 is using Micro Sim, that means we have to change our regular Sim to Micro Sim, but can we have both Sim and Micro Sim with same number if I have iPhone 4 and other phone?

  • Koooo

    Rogers is fucking unbelievable stocking a mere 6 at one of their flagship downtown locations. Does anyone know when Rogers will be getting more in?

  • Okay so I've read through everything. I am going to be a first time iphone buyer, and it's obvious that buying a factory unlocked phone from Apple is the way to go. But what I'm not getting or understanding is that I don't have to buy into a contract with the big 3, as I just pop in one of their micro-sim cards. But, and this is my problem, don't I need a contract for this or am I buying a pay as you go micro sim card?

  • First off, I really don't believe buying an unlocked phone is the best way to buy an iPhone in Canada.
    The reason is the subsidy of $500 that the phone companies give you on the phone is a great deal. They then overcharge you on your monthly bill to recoup this money.
    On the other hand, if you buy the phone outright for $650 unlocked then you can switch providers when you want, but they all still overcharge you but this time you didn't get $500 free.

    You don't need a _contract_ with providers to get a microsim card and no you're not going on a “pay as you go” micro sim. You're sigining up for a monthly plan, without a time commitment. So at the end of the month, you can say, 'I dont want to pay anymore.' and cancel your service free of charge.
    Signing a contract means you're forced to pay them for the length of your contract or pay a fee to cancel your contract early (usually $400 or $20/per month remaining -> approx. the amount they gave you off of the phone purchase)
    Hopefully this helps. If not, ask away.
    Oh, and one more thing. Even though a phone comes “locked” to a provider, it's possible to unlock the iphone now with a program called ultrasn0w. This will allow you to switch carriers or sell the phone to people who are on other carriers when you're done with it.

  • Ex

    When buying unlocked, you'll still need wireless service, as you have
    understood. So, you have two options. You can either do pay as you go, or in
    the case of Rogers/Fido, choose a non-contract monthly package.

    For example: $30 voice plan, $25 500MB internet.

  • Zanteogo

    Does anyone know when the carriers will start to let us order online/over the phone with home delivery?

    I want a new phone, but refuse to play the “hunt for an iphone 4 game” every other day. I also don't want to buy unlocked.

    Thanks.

  • bR

    I am out of contract with Rogers, and my HUP is exactly like a new customer, WTF, no incentive to stay at all, last 3 yrs with them was like nothing, I am just treated like a stranger ! But online they sound like I have hit a jackpot “Thank you for your business. You’re eligible for…” the freaking same price as someone who didn’t give us business for the last 3yrs, where is the “thank you” ?

  • Kazar70

    I ordered an iphone 4 from Apple yesterday. Will it come with a sim card ? Thanks.

  • pretty girl

    can you get data plan removed from the iphone 4 if your with fido? and if yes how much is it to get it removed?
    thanks 🙂

  • Ex

    Yes
    $200

  • Gerrian_hi

    It bothers me that iPhone usage costs are not less if you own your iPhone outright.
    Why would one ever buy an iPhone outright from a carrier? Yes I know you can cancel at anytime, but for that convience buying an iPhone outright is a big cost.

  • miphone

    i want to buy the iphone4 (w/o plan) mid next week. do they have iphones in stock at the apple store at PC vancouver or do i have to wait in line all day just to hear that there are no more phones left?

  • Keileramaral

    Hi gues… where can i found unlocked 32g 4G?

  • Fjcom_pascal

    I'm a FIDO customer and I have an 3-year iPhone plan that is supposed to end in 2011/09/27. I spoke with one of their customer service agent and I was told that if I want to purchase the iPhone 4 and get the special pricing, I would have to sign a new 3-year contract but get this: this end-date of this contract would be 2014/09/27, hence they would add 3 years after THE END of my current contract which has a little bit more of 1 year to go. Thus, I would be stuck for over the next 4 years… Is that true?

  • Gerrian_hi

    You mean an iPhone 4 32GB I assume.
    The Apple Online store sells the unlocked iPhone 4 and today a local Apple dealer said the Apple local stores can get it for you if you want to deal locally. I may use my excess Aeroplan miles to get a cash card for the purchase. The local Apple tore said they would accept that American Express cash card.

  • Gerrian_hi

    That sounds very reasonable to me, else you would owe them some cash for that 3 year of your current contract, to cover the remainder of the purchase of your current iPhone. Actually I'm surprised they would do that, because then they would have a 2 yr old iPhone to dispose of.

  • Fjcom_pascal

    It's just that in the FAQ, it doesn't mention anything about the new 3-year contract starting at the end of the 1st one, it just mentions a new 3-year plan :

    Did you activate or upgrade your Rogers iPhone on a term contract on or before December 31, 2008?
    Thank you for your business. You’re eligible for at least $480 off the no-term device price. You can pick up an iPhone 4 16GB/32GB for $159/$269 on a new 3-year voice and data plan.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Using that $480 off on a 3 year contract, they have about $480/3= $160 still to write off on your current contract after 2 years.
    That's still much better than owning an iPhone, unless one could sell one that is used 2 years for a reasonable price. I wouldn't buy any used phone, for sanitary reasons first and unrecognized damage secondly.

  • gangster

    how much is an iphone 4 if you buy it straight from apple, 16gb?
    thank you 🙂

  • Gerrian_hi

    See that price at the Apple Store.

  • blue_icic

    Hi! Could you tell me when should I line up at Apple store in Montreal? Do you know how many unlock iphone 4 sold for a day? Because I couldn't buy it for a week.

  • yes @achilles Unbelievable. i am waiting for next one.

  • blue_icic

    Does the iphone 4 32GB 779$ include Tax? If not so, how much include Tax?

  • Tzofim

    click on Start, Accessories, Calculator, and figure it out. faster than typing a question

  • Tzofim

    yes

  • blue_icic

    I mean 779$ include Tax or not?

  • Tzofim

    $48.34

  • Tzofim

    try and be there before 7:20am
    they sell between 9 and 350

  • Toffu

    you have 2 iphones…or one iphone and one cell phone?
    you shared the same time (minutes) than your wife?
    is it the family plan?

    i have a old family plan,,,share minutes with my wife…i don’t want to loss my privilege for a iphone…
    illimited incoming call, long distance call free, texto free…+++
    i plan to call Bell to see if the 6Gb option will work with my forfait…
    i’m in Québec

  • Jony

    Will Apple.ca sell iPhone 4 units online?
    – To be announced.

    is that a yes or no?

  • Gerrian_hi

    YES they are now, with 3 weeks shipping.
    Read all about it at Apple.ca/store .

  • Gerrian_hi

    Re Apple Store payment for an iPhone 4, or any other Apple product.
    My local Apple Store advised me they accept Aeroplan payment cards locally. This means buying from the Apple Online store, but picking up at the Apple Store. Contact your local Apple Store for details on doing this.

  • wowzer

    I was told by Rogers that to cancel data plan is $5.00/month or up to a year. Voice to cancel is $20.00 or as much as $400.00

  • Emmsibaby

    Just moved to Canada & hoping to get the IPhone 4 – going to get an unlocked one from Apple – which carrier should I go with?

  • kurty

    if u buy from the big 3, do u still have the option of returning it if u r unhappy with it?

  • John

    How can I be sure that the iPhone 4 I purchased online via Apple.ca is totally unlocked? Aan can be used with any carrier?

  • Ex

    It just is.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Apple advertises the iPhone 4 from the Apple Store as Unlocked. If it isn’t effective you have a warranty claim.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Telus/Bell have the better network coverage.
    Fido supports it Pay as you Go for simple phone use.

  • Surfer

    Can you get an iPhone 4 with a voice and text plan only from one of the Big 3 providers, and if so from who and what are the catches? Can you still access internet through free wi-fi sites if you do not have a data plan? Please advise. Thanks.

  • Corinna Nisbet

    My girlfriend just got her new phone and we have tried everything, but when she calls me, I can not hear her??? She can hear me, but I get NOTHING……has anyone had this problem? She has called all sorts of people, the sound is up, the mute is NOT on etc…..I have tried everything!!!

  • Gerrian_hi

    I believe Fido supports the iPhone as a voice only phone.
    Free WiFi sites shouldn’t be affected by your type of Phone service.

  • Feroialma

    can us citizens buy an unlocked iphone 4 from canada and have it shipped to us trough online apple store?

  • FAHD

    Hello , I’m coming to Canada next month , I just want to know if Iphone 4 coast 659$ or if there a tax fee ,
    Do I have to pay a tax if I buy it from apple store ( Unlocked Iphone 4 16GB ) ……….I heard that I have to pay 30% tax !!!!…… Please someone guide me.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Canada’s total sales tax varies by province. For example Ontario’s is 13%, BC is 12%. SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada
    Apple.ca/store http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?
    mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
    iPhone 4 16GB1 $659.00 Ships: 3 weeks

    You may have a problem getting it when you are here. Having someone in Canada order it for you ahead of time may be advisable.
    SEE the CDN FAQ: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ#faqs
    This para seems applicable to your situation. You may be able to buy it as a CDN gift and pick it up here. I suggest talking to the Apple Online Store.
    #
    If I buy iPhone from this Apple Online Store, can I ship it to another country?

    No. Orders placed through this Apple Online Store can be shipped only within the country of purchase. You can also shop for friends and family in countries where iPhone is sold. Just visit the local store of the country where you want your products delivered. Or for fast, easy ordering and expert advice, just call an Apple Online Store specialist at 1-800-MY-APPLE.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Canada’s total sales tax varies by province. For example Ontario’s is 13%, BC is 12%. SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada
    Apple.ca/store http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?
    mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
    iPhone 4 16GB1 $659.00 Ships: 3 weeks

    You may have a problem getting it when you are here. Having someone in Canada order it for you ahead of time may be advisable.
    SEE the CDN FAQ: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ#faqs
    This para seems applicable to your situation. You may be able to buy it as a CDN gift and pick it up here. I suggest talking to the Apple Online Store.
    #
    If I buy iPhone from this Apple Online Store, can I ship it to another country?

    No. Orders placed through this Apple Online Store can be shipped only within the country of purchase. You can also shop for friends and family in countries where iPhone is sold. Just visit the local store of the country where you want your products delivered. Or for fast, easy ordering and expert advice, just call an Apple Online Store specialist at 1-800-MY-APPLE.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Canada’s total sales tax varies by province. For example Ontario’s is 13%, BC is 12%. SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada
    Apple.ca/store http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?
    mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
    iPhone 4 16GB1 $659.00 Ships: 3 weeks

    You may have a problem getting it when you are here. Having someone in Canada order it for you ahead of time may be advisable.
    SEE the CDN FAQ: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ#faqs
    This para seems applicable to your situation. You may be able to buy it as a CDN gift and pick it up here. I suggest talking to the Apple Online Store.
    #
    If I buy iPhone from this Apple Online Store, can I ship it to another country?

    No. Orders placed through this Apple Online Store can be shipped only within the country of purchase. You can also shop for friends and family in countries where iPhone is sold. Just visit the local store of the country where you want your products delivered. Or for fast, easy ordering and expert advice, just call an Apple Online Store specialist at 1-800-MY-APPLE.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Canada’s total sales tax varies by province. For example Ontario’s is 13%, BC is 12%. SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada
    Apple.ca/store http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?
    mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
    iPhone 4 16GB1 $659.00 Ships: 3 weeks

    You may have a problem getting it when you are here. Having someone in Canada order it for you ahead of time may be advisable.
    SEE the CDN FAQ: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ#faqs
    This para seems applicable to your situation. You may be able to buy it as a CDN gift and pick it up here. I suggest talking to the Apple Online Store.
    #
    If I buy iPhone from this Apple Online Store, can I ship it to another country?

    No. Orders placed through this Apple Online Store can be shipped only within the country of purchase. You can also shop for friends and family in countries where iPhone is sold. Just visit the local store of the country where you want your products delivered. Or for fast, easy ordering and expert advice, just call an Apple Online Store specialist at 1-800-MY-APPLE.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Canada’s total sales tax varies by province. For example Ontario’s is 13%, BC is 12%. SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada
    Apple.ca/store http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?
    mco=OTY2ODA2OQ
    iPhone 4 16GB1 $659.00 Ships: 3 weeks

    You may have a problem getting it when you are here. Having someone in Canada order it for you ahead of time may be advisable.
    SEE the CDN FAQ: http://store.apple.com/ca/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=OTY2ODA2OQ#faqs
    This para seems applicable to your situation. You may be able to buy it as a CDN gift and pick it up here. I suggest talking to the Apple Online Store.
    #
    If I buy iPhone from this Apple Online Store, can I ship it to another country?

    No. Orders placed through this Apple Online Store can be shipped only within the country of purchase. You can also shop for friends and family in countries where iPhone is sold. Just visit the local store of the country where you want your products delivered. Or for fast, easy ordering and expert advice, just call an Apple Online Store specialist at 1-800-MY-APPLE.

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  • Mario

    It’s a pity that the big 3 never reveal when they receive new stocks of IPhone. Every shop I went to, I was told the same message ”No IPhone in stock. We will receive new IPhone units next week”. But next week, still no units. The big 3 are playing with their customers without even letting them to make a reservation for the IPhone. It’s just stupid because in other countries, you can get an IPhone through a reservation. This sucks that all stores in Canada does not proceed with the same manner.

  • Gerrian_hi

    Lets face it, our CDN carriers control the customers. What bothers me even more is they charge the same high usage charges even if you own a smart phone outright. So I haven’t ordered an iPhone yet.

    I just noticed that Telus offers 500GB of data for $20 per month on an iPad. That’s the total price, $20 per month total for a data only plan, but not available on an iPhone.

  • Christian c.

    Is Iphone 4 available now at the Apple store (on August 29th)? i want to fly down to get one. Thanks for your repsonse in advance.

  • Bhkkhhj

    poop, pricy phonage

  • Pissed off in Van

    You need to update this site to reflect that fact that most people can still not get an iPhone4 and it is almost 2 months since the launch. Wake up please. I live in Vancouver and stores like Best Buy are getting 10 units a week for Rogers customers. This is a total disgrace and Apple is going to lose long-time clients like me. I need a new battery for my 3G and I don’t want to pay $125 for a battery on a phone that is 2 models old. However I cannot get a new iPhone since they are sold out everywhere. I am screwed.

  • Sylvain

    If I get an iphone 4 from a carrier with a 3 years contract the iphone is locked to this carrier right ?

    Then let’s say I go in the US can I use another microSIM for the US while i’m still in my 3 years contract ?

    What happen with the iPhone 4 after my 3 years contract ? Can I go with another carrier or the iPhone 4 is lock forever to this carrier unless I get the iPhone 4 jailbreak to unlock it ?

    Thanks

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  • CoCo

    Nice, but although my regular Rogers cell phone contract expired 2 years or more ago, but I would still have to pay around $500 to keep my corporate talk rate. I worked it out when 3GS was released and I am better off keeping my original corporate rate and spending the full $650 for an unlocked phone. After 3 years, I’d still pay less than getting the $160 phone and paying Rogers regular rates.

  • Guest

    The whole thing is ridiculous…I am dropping the idea of Iphone4 and I was planning to change my MAC….I am going back to PC.
    Apple is now more invasive then Windows…..at least the Google phone is available.

    Apple Sucks!

  • JoshS

    I can appreciate your frustration, but moving to a Win PC as a result is oh so emotional. I’m also interested in an iPhone 4, but I’m going to wait until it comes out with an antenna fix, expected soon. In fact I never rush out to get the first off, whether hardware or software.
    I’d nurse that battery along, until the upgraded iPhone 4 is available.

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  • Gemmechiare

    Hi, where can I get a factory unlocked phone?

  • Thabah

    $649 is that inclusive of tax?

  • Zenjka-brat

    hello!! write me please zenjka-brat@mail.ru i need buy apple iphone 4 wholesale

  • Mischiefmaple

    If I bought iPhone 4 on 3 year plan from Rogers, can I switch to pay as you go?

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  • DAVINDER SINGH

    In how many days i can get my i phone 4 after booking

  • Elhombreryan

    Do you have any idea why Futureshop (CAN) has not received any 1phone 4s 32 GB, they only have 16GBs. I asked both Virgin and FS, if they will be getting in and they don’t know.  Do you have any insight into this?  I only asks b/c I  have $200 in FS gift cards.

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  • Dgdshd

    so who has the cheapest plan?