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Will Rogers Allow Skype Over Data Network like AT&T?

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Happy Thanksgiving to every single one of our readers out there–hope you enjoy your day and take some time to think about what you’re thankful for (aside from the iPhone).

How many of you out there are avid Skype users? You were probably excited to hear about Skype launching for the iPhone–except for Canada. Well, eventually Canadians got their Skype app for the iPhone but there’s still one thing that is stopping us from using the app to its entirety: calls over the Rogers/Fido data network.

Skype iPhone App Does Not Allow Calls Over the Data Network

The Skype iPhone app does not allow calls over the data network in Canada. You can make calls when there is a WiFi connection. However, there are ways to bypass this restriction if you have a jailbroken iPhone. All you have to do is install VoIPOver3G (free for the iPhone 3G via Cydia), or purchase 3G Unrestrictor (works great on the iPhone 3GS).

Even though these iPhone “hacks” are out there, the widespread Canadian population isn’t into jailbreaking their iPhones. They just want apps that work the way they were designed to work. So when news broke that AT&T in the USA was going to allow Skype for the iPhone to make calls using the data network, this got many people up north in Canada excited!

Rogers To Allow Skype Calls Over the Data Network–Unlikely!

As for Rogers adopting this policy like AT&T in the USA, the chances of it happening are very slim (they do like to introduce new “government” fees though). Why? Well the answer is obvious. Rogers will lose out on long distance calls billed at $0.35/minute. When I use my Skype app on the iPhone, I can make unlimited calls to Canada and the USA for–$3/month! If everyone was to use Skype, Rogers would lose out on their profitable long distance revenue.

Once AT&T finalizes the whole Skype over the data network, the US version of Skype will allow calls over 3G. Will Canucks be shut out once again? Maybe not! Canadians can get access to this download by creating a US iTunes account to download the app. Skype on your iPhone coupled with the $3/month unlimited USA/Canada calling plan, plus Caller ID makes for one wicked setup.

Until Rogers allows Skype calls over the data network, Canadians will once again have to conjure up a multitude of ways to bypass restrictions. This seems to be a Canadian thing-to-do when it comes to gaining access to what our American counterparts have but we don’t.

So what’s your verdict: will Rogers allow Skype over 3G in Canada?

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  • Hell no!!! Lol

  • tazCorp

    Oh no, they wont!!!!!

  • Dusty

    Im with Eric Parent on this one, lol.
    There is a possibility we could see this down the road (After a certain amount of demand), but only for an extra price of $10 added on top of of your $100 rogers bill!

  • wuju

    I doubt Rogers/Fido will do what AT&T for Skype.

    Thing is by downloading the U.S. version, it would allow us to use Skype over the data plan? I guess it must be a software lock and it will be unlocked on the Skype U.S. version. Cool…

  • djelimon

    Honestly I'm not sure I trust Rogers/fido enough to rely on them for tethering or voip over 3g. Come 2010 tethering through them will cost extra and I think they would do the same for voip over 3g

    I trust the jb solutions for these more.

  • reyt

    I doubt it….and before anything like that would happen, rogers would already have squeezed us with more money!

  • 1His_Nibs1

    I tried to create a US account for iTunes but a warning box came up and told me I already have a Canadian account. Is there some way to circumvent this?

  • Use another email address/address details

  • 1His_Nibs1

    So in other words conjure one up out of your imagination?

  • Umm, no! Use a secondary email, then use a USA addy of a “friend” 😉

  • 1His_Nibs1

    Ok how do you get by the Method of Payment section? I've been able to find a
    “friend” and his address but what about payment options?

  • 1His_Nibs1

    I'd really appreciate your help on this as I have family back in Ontario that I'd like to call more frequently but with long distance charges being what they are being able to download Skype from the US would be of great benefit. Now if only I can figure out how to circumvent the Method of Payment section. Thanks for your replies I do appreciate them very much.

  • Highly Unlikely ,… unless of course perhaps MA Bell and Telus turn it on ,,, to attract new subscribers,,,,
    Its all about the # s Baby

  • djelimon

    Apple changed the registration so that you must have a cc I think. That's why I think jb is the answer

  • 1His_Nibs1

    LOL I just received your email as I was trying to create a new US iTunes
    account and there's a story/tip from this website dated March 31 2009 on how
    to do it but on this tip there is a “Method of Payment” box that says “none”
    and this option/box is not offered as a option/selection anymore so I guess
    us Canucks are fuqqed again.

  • Search the blog for how to create a US iTunes account without credit
    card. Full tutorial there.

  • 1His_Nibs1

    Actually I already found the instructions posted back on March 31 2009 and I
    read in the comments section that you had to “purchase” a free app first and
    then you could sign up with no credit card info. I have my account and I
    uninstalled Skype from my iPhone (Canadian version I guess) and downloaded
    the US version of Skype and tried to sync my iPhone but it won't
    download/install on to my phone. Any ideas/suggestions? Hey, thanks for the
    replies. They're really appreciated.

  • 1His_Nibs1

    Rebooted my iPhone and deleted it from my iTunes account and then it installed on my iPhone once I tried syncing again. Curious though, I guess there will be a future upgrade to this app as AT&T is going to allow this to work on their networks. I guess I'll keep posted to this site for any relevant info regarding this. Once again thanks for your replies iphoneincanada.

  • icemanyvr

    I don't think Rogers is in any kind of position any longer where they can dictate to Apple what they can or cannot do.

    With the emergence of Bell and Telus into te iPhone market, I think many of the rules are about to change, beyond simply those regarding monthly rates. Well jus have to wait and see.

  • djelimon

    Actually Appulous/hackulous would also be a place to get the new client although I could never get the skype install from there to work. I'm sure that's just due to some technical detail I was unaware of.

  • tazCorp

    How this pic is auto placed on my profile? I did that logo yeaars ago for a personal blog and now here it is and i dont know how it got there
    someone knows? Its purely coincidence? :O

  • Glad it worked out! Cheers!

  • Magic?? 😉

  • tazCorp

    :O 😮 : O

    i hate magic!
    I never understand the tricks 🙁

  • 1His_Nibs1

    So I'm curious, is the US version of Skype from iTunes US different than the Canadian version of Skype from iTunes Canada? Is this/will this only work on jailbroken phones or will VoIP work on locked iPhones as well? Thanks.

  • The US version that allows calls over 3G is not out yet. It will work
    on both stock and JB'n iPhones

  • Yes, in the end of course Rogers will allow Skype over 3G. The pattern is always the same; 'modern' (read: European) wireless countries implement something, a year (or more!) later the US get on the train, then another year or so later safe old Canada finally bites the bullet. North American institutions are fundamentally more conservative than those in Europe.

    In the meantime there's no big deal IMO – just JB + 3G Unrestrictor. Those who don't jailbreak stay that way for one of only two reasons:

    – they haven't even heard of jailbreaking.
    – they have heard of it but Googling throws up lots of scary (usually old) articles and they're warned off.

    Those of us who have played around with this know that these days jailbreaking is trivial – it's up to us to educate our scared friends and bring them to the party!

  • Grumbler

    Apparently this is not a Rogers issue, but a Skype issue.
    Rogers has said publicly that they do not block applications, including VOIP.
    http://voiceontheweb.biz/2009/06/is-rogers-setting-a-benchmark-for-net-neutrality-policies/

  • christopher

    canada and north america are so behind in technology it is not even funny. in the uk over the telecommunications carrier “3” they allow skype calls without the use of a data plan. they let you call people through skype through your 3g network for “free” you dont need to set up a voice plan or data plan. all you need is there sim card and a compatible phone. it is amazing and this is all advertised on the skype website. check it out http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/welcomeback/

  • vik

    anyone know when telus/bell/rogers/fido will officially release the iphone and the plans?
    my 3 yr contract just expired with rogers and want an iphone now… but im lookin for the best possible deal!

    any ideas or suggestions? thx in advance!

  • Sheldon1

    I live in B.C. and i can call out on my skype just fine! Is rogers charging me?

  • You're calling out through WiFi right? That is allowed. But calls over 3G
    won't work unless your iPhone is jailbroken.

  • marypretotto

    Hi Everyone. This is Mary with Rogers. Sorry for the delay in response, I had mistakenly posted to a different thread.
    So just to clarify, Rogers/Fido customers can already make calls over wifi using the Skype app that is available in Canada. We can't comment on Skype over a wireless network as the app available in Canada does not currently enable. But Rogers/Fido customers can use other VOIP applications that operate over the network today.
    Thanks, Mary.

  • marypretotto

    Hi Everyone. This is Mary with Rogers. Sorry for the delay in response, I had mistakenly posted to a different thread.
    So just to clarify, Rogers/Fido customers can already make calls over wifi using the Skype app that is available in Canada. We can't comment on Skype over a wireless network as the app available in Canada does not currently enable. But Rogers/Fido customers can use other VOIP applications that operate over the network today.
    Thanks, Mary.

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