According to a report from the National Post, the federal government’s ArriveCAN app might end up putting the Grenadier Island Country Club in Ontario’s Thousand Islands out of business.
The golf club has been operating for almost 100 years now. However, its American members aren’t all that enthusiastic about making the trip down from Alexandria Bay in the U.S. these days because ArriveCAN has told several of them to quarantine for 14 days after entering Canada despite being fully vaccinated. U.S. citizens comprise 45% of the Grenadier Island Country Club’s 180 members.
“The club was started by seven Americans in 1927 and membership used to be 50:50. But a lot of the American members are threatening to leave after being hassled by these ridiculous rules,” said Herbert Gibson, the establishment’s chair of membership. Gibson added that if their American members started leaving, “we’re done, the club would have to fold”
One American member who is fully vaccinated against COVID-19, both booster shots included, recently played tennis at the club. She said she was contacted by Health Canada the day after her visit and asked to quarantine for 14 days. “It’s a little disheartening. We did everything legally. I love going to Canada but Canada is prohibiting me from doing that,” she said.
“To me, it seems like a glitch in the system. But if I can’t go for the rest of the season, I won’t continue my membership. Why would I?”
All international travellers are required to use the ArriveCAN app when crossing into Canada, although many are asking why it is still in use when the country has already eased up COVID-19 restrictions.
There have been many cases of the ArriveCAN app erroneously ordering fully vaccinated individuals to quarantine after crossing the border. The government has acknowledged that such an issue exists but maintains that it has been resolved despite reports coming in as recently as earlier this week.
Conservative MP Tony Baldinelli, who represents Niagara Falls, recently said the ArriveCAN app is harming businesses in border communities.
The government continues to downplay concerns regarding the ArriveCAN app, but even border agents aren’t fans of it. Last month, the union that represents Canada’s border agents said the app is causing delays and has reduced officers to tech support.
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Give it up already. Clearly the app is not working. Time to go back to the drawing board.
The app is a joke. It’s not working because it serves no actual purpose. It’s theatre to make people think the government is doing something, yet no one can come up with a reason that isn’t easily shown to be false.
So far, the best argument anyone can come up with is “well, I never had a problem with it, so why get rid of it? Even if it’s useless, obedience is important”.
The app has always said to quarantine, its just a mistake, takes 2 mins to fill out, stop making excuses.
Wouldn’t it be even easier just to have everyone pledge allegiance to the Liberal Party and Justin Trudeau? It would unquestionably be faster and just as effective against covid spread.
Oh c’mon folks. You’re quoting the National Post??? They’re like Fox News in print. And you’re a website dedicated to promoting innovative technologies, yet you’re now denigrating a technological advancement that takes 2 mins to do but smooths the border experience immensely. I’ve crossed a dozen times and now it is so easy because they have all my info up on the screen when I get up to the agent. Sure there will be some glitches in the path of progress. But you’ve never before advocated for us to go backward. This is not a good look for you.
Infact, Postmedia (owner of the National Post) is 66% owned by Americans.
Mr most honourable sir. I am pleased to be telling you my friend that this app sir is a very bad sir very bad sir! Sir YOU are the looking not good on this particular thing sir very not good! Your mother drink the milk of old goat! (As we say in the homeland)
Dreck
How much difficulty have you had crossing the border before? What information did you need to enter before that is made quicker or more efficient? How is this progress and not regressive?
What you are missing is that, although you could argue that the app is more efficient than a paper based approach although to me this is not necessarily clear, neither approach is more efficient than than what was done in the past. So removing this requirement as is safe from a pandemic point of view is actually a step forward (in coming out of pandemic restrictions) and will be more efficient that having this extra step. May also be worth reading all the recent articles about ariport/border issues caused by the app (according to people who work there), for example border officers now spending a lot of time dealing with app issues.
“technological advancement”… This app? And you say that with a straight face?
Plus, you missed the point entirely: WHY.
PS. Your comment about NP….you can’t really be that brainwashed. Any dissent and you slap a label. What about CBC=Pravda?
“The club was started by seven Americans in 1927 and membership used to be 50:50. But a lot of the American members are threatening to leave after being hassled by these ridiculous rules,” said Herbert Gibson, the establishment’s chair of membership.
So a club that was started by America is going to be shut down because a few rich people, living in another country no less, don’t like having to follow rules?
Bless their heart. Bye Felicia. Let a real Canadian company rise from the ashes.
Certainly more to the story here.
I have my team from across US and EU coming into Canada over the past couple of months. They’ve not once been asked to quarantined for 14 days through the app
What might really be happening here is that these Americans are not vaccinated fully, and hence being asked to quarantined.
I believe there have actually been bugs in the app that have caused some people to be asked to quarantine when they shouldn’t…
Which I’d say is a pretty big, and really the only problem here.
The bigger question is, why is any Canadian being forced into detention simply for entering Canada without breaking any law. The second biggest question would be, how much has covid screwed up people’s perspective that they think it’s ok.
Yes, unvaccinated people that do not enter Canada with a negative test have to quarantine.
It is technically against the law right now not to (have a test, not fill in the app upon entry)
These poor people that have to wait two weeks in their mansions so they don’t spread their infection to others.
Or vaccinated people without the app.
Which law is that?
Also, bad laws neither make something right nor justifiable.
You mean regular people. Conditioned to despise regular people.
Also, it’s way beyond time to give up that myth. Not even Justin tries to fob that fearporn anymore. An unvaxed person is no more likely to be infected or to spread infection than a vaxxed person. Detaining them is based on spite not science.
Ok. You’re allowed to believe whatever you want to believe. Nobody’s stopping you.
True. But, one should always try to based one’s position on reason and facts and not fear and obedience.
However, when policy restricts fundamental rights they had better be on rock solid foundations of facts and reason and not on theatre or petty spite. It’s not even a slippery slope, it is simply wrong and it amazes me how many not only accept such policies but embrace and defend them.
Gotta luv that arrogant Commie-can’t-dolt attitude. Bless you for flushing your economic prosperity down the toilet.
Gotta luv that arrogant Commie-can’t-dolt attitude. Bless you for flushing your economic prosperity down the toilet.
But Lovey. i have already gassed up the yacht to make the 2 pm tee off time.
This is over-dramatization at its finest. If indeed some U.S. members are withdrawing (doubtful) perhaps the club could consider opening up its’ membership to some Canadians eh! It is really difficult to get a membership in a golf club, any golf club, because they are snapped up quickly and people rarely stop them.
It is exactly what the WEF have planned, you will own nothing & you will be happy. Our current government cares not for your businesses, or livelihoods, they will do the same with farmers, they will force the farmers to sell their land, as you golf owner will have to as well. Because they will own everything, even farmland, just ask Bill Gates, the same guy who warned us about covid, and the same person who endorses covid vaccines, it’s the same largest farmland owner in America. What a coincidence.
This app needs to be stopped. There is NO other option. It’s evil. It’s criminal.