Canadians: Would you Switch to Verizon? [Poll]

Yesterday there was a story about some polls commissioned by Bell regarding Verizon and the upcoming wireless auction. Take our fun, unscientific poll below and share it with your friends and let’s see what the numbers end up at (if you can’t see the polls you’ll have to click through to the story to vote)

Would you switch to Verizon?


Should Verizon or Canadian companies be favoured in the upcoming wireless auction?


Despite the ongoing opposition to Ottawa’s current wireless spectrum rules, Industry Minister James Moore has stated the auction will proceed as planned. He also reiterated the current auction rules were decided with consultation with carriers, with the latter only opposing them when Verizon’s intentions to come to Canada were made public.

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  • confused

    2nd poll question is vague with yes/no to a two part question, imo

    yes … to what?

  • huskywhale

    I think canadian companies but small ones like wind or koodo should be favoured not giant like verizon

  • Rj

    Koodo is owned by Telus and Verizon is buying Wind!

  • Clarified poll and reset the results.

  • Sydney Roo

    It depends what sort of rate plans they offer. If they offer more of the same like Robelus, then, no.

  • websnap

    I respectfully disagree. New entrants should be favoured, regardless of how big it is. Look at Wind, for instance โ€“ I live in Winnipeg and they don’t exist here because they don’t have towers and the incumbents won’t let them licence theirs. So, now they have spectrum and not only few ways to access it nationally โ€“ preventing them from being a true national carrier โ€“ but not enough money to build towers where they don’t have access. Now, punishing a new entrant because they have money and will be able to build towers in places they would normally be locked out of (like here) makes it harder for entities to even bother to enter the field in the first place. At that point we are just rewarding those with deep pockets already in the market rather than fostering real competition (rather than competition with the funds to actually compete).

  • ????Dennis

    Read it and weep ROBELLUS!

    hahahahahahaha!!!!

    Make me pay $90/ month. I call retentions and you sorry your plan I already good???? Go fuck yourself!

  • Al

    Verizon has retracted their offer to buy Wind.

  • Pat Daigle

    This is hardly a non bias pole… Almost all mobile enthusiasts hate the Big 3 so most people on this site will vote to reflect that. Personally I think everyone is delusional… We’re so obsessed with “more competition” that we don’t stop to think that the Big 3 will become the Big 4 and we’ll be back where we started. We don’t need 4, 5 or 6 different wireless carriers people, we need to keep the 3 we have (and ensure they continue to invest heavily in infrastructure) and we need to regulate the crap out of them to keep prices down.

  • Al

    Oh man… You so had me with the first half of your post, and then you went and threw it all away at the end. Yes, there are a LOT of delusional people here thinking that Verizon may be their salvation (I’m not saying that won’t happen – we just don’t know yet).

    But if regulation would work (or the type you’re speaking of even be legal), we would have done that LONG ago. Too little too late. Change needs to happen, and the big 3 have made it abundantly clear that they would rather whine then be respectful to their customers. We can only hope that Verizon (or whoever) comes in and CAUSES change, as opposed to just becoming one of “the big 4”.

  • Rogers Sucks

    Well, we need to start somewhere and I certainly will welcome a US company.

  • wstoneman

    Verizon prices are not cheap… once they come do you think they will be like wind and mobilicity? I dont think so. It will jsut become a 4 way monopoly.

  • Pat Daigle

    Fair enough, and I admit I have no idea if the Gov/CRTC has the ability to keep them in line on their own… Just from a spectrum and network resource point of view having so many players is so bloody inefficient. In a perfect world (for me) we would have the Big 3 (no flanker brands) with their quality networks and decent prices.

    I guess my biggest fear is always having to pick between a high cell phone bill with good coverage or lower bill but crap for coverage. New entrant to me = crap coverage which isn’t an option.

    I want to believe that Verizon will “fix” our wireless industry, but they are the most expensive carrier in the US, so my hopes are very low.

    I hope I’m wrong, I really do…

  • Al

    Maybe. I’m trying to enforce BOTH perspectives. What you say may turn out to be absolutely true, because their prices ARE pretty much the same. HOWEVER, in order to gain a substantial foothold in Canada (to attract the intelligent Canadians who are looking to make a properly INFORMED decision), they will HAVE TO offer something more substantial for that price. Free Canada/US roaming would be a good start to attract some – especially the snowbird crowd (of which is becoming an ever-increasing percentage of the population).

  • mecca319@hotmail.com

    ROBELLUS should get what they deserve which is a slap in the face by their neglected customers ditching them for verizon

  • wstoneman

    Right but how many people are in the position to leave their current carrier. I dont think alot of people are going to break their contracts to go to another company… if so then the big three are in huge trouble and we should be scared.

  • Al

    Let me guess… you used Google Translate?

  • Al

    New entrant with exceedingly large amounts of cash could also equal good coverage within a couple of years (I’m totally guessing on the time frame). They (assuming Verizon) already have the land borders covered (not that that is a huge area, but it’s an instant start)

    The small country of the UK has numerous carriers, good coverage, and rates that are about a third (or less) of what we pay.

    Sadly, it’s time for a shot in the arm, because our larger Canadian wireless businesses are being very un-Canadian. And the smaller ones don’t have what it takes to conquer the bullies.

  • Pat Daigle

    You make some good points. I wish we could have prices like the UK but having half the population and exponentially more ground to cover impedes this (although I’m sure not to the extent we’re paying extra for).

    Your well worded and non rhetoric type arguments may have convinced me sir!

    I guess we’ll wait and see. Either way I’m not expecting too much to change before my contract with Telus expires in Feb.

  • Al

    Nobody need go running to a new Canadian carrier the moment they open their doors.

    Although Verizon would not be able to offer lower pricing than what they offer in the US, they COULD offer incentives to switch, in order to gain more customers sooner. Such incentives could be worded as “buy out your existing contract” etc. Verizon MAY bring to the table what is needed to entice customers – which is why the big 3 ARE scared.

    But as I keep saying… Nobody knows for sure what is going to happen.

  • wstoneman

    Exactly, no one knows. I agree we need competition, but everyone is acting out of anger. Let’s see what happens.

  • Al

    There’s also the thing about whether or not Verizon should be allowed to share existing towers which, although I’m not totally clear on this, I “think” they would be legally allowed to do (there is some debate about that, however).

    Regardless, I’m guessing you would be safe with another 2 year contract before anything significant happens. Or own your own phone and go month-to-month as more people are starting to do.

  • K3

    As said yesterday the prices will probably be about the same, it’s when you see all the carriers trying to flag the attention of the new customer that you’ll see the coveted special deals come out.

    I’ve noticed you keep throwing around “the intelligent Canadians who are looking to make a properly informed decision”. Just wondering what it is that makes you think that anyone anywhere would haphazardly jump to another carrier without properly checking into it first?

    What did you mean yesterday with “You have ZERO facts, and as such, no assumptions can possibly be made.” ?

  • Pat Daigle

    That’s the plan actually. Gonna buy the new iPhone5S (assuming that’s what they go with) for me and the wife, and take advantage of the BYOD with either Telus or Koodo. Not perfect, but at least month to month is cheaper and we’ll be contract free. Maybe I’ll feel better about things that way haha

  • Al

    “Just wondering what it is that makes you think that anyone anywhere would haphazardly jump to another carrier without properly checking into it first?”

    Because many people who comment in the IPIC discussions have aggressively said as much… repeatedly. Heck, simply answering “Yes” to this poll is stating such. An intelligent response would be “Undecided”.

    “What did you mean yesterday with “You have ZERO facts, and as such, no assumptions can possibly be made.” ?”

    That’s pretty obvious. Nobody knows ANYTHING. Even Verizon doesn’t know at this point. You don’t know if THEY will get in. You don’t know if some other company who has been silently waiting will get in. You don’t know what sort of pricing or features will be offered. You don’t know when they will be up and running well enough to offer respectable coverage…. You know NOTHING… ZERO… NADDA.

  • tired of the robbellus allianc

    i know one thing for SURE.

    give me an alternative to the current big 3 and i WILL switch if the plan is even remotely close

  • Al

    Why? Do you think Verizon is run by saints?

  • K3

    [[ Because many people who comment in the IPIC discussions have aggressively said as much… repeatedly. Heck, simply answering “Yes” to this poll is stating such. An intelligent response would be “Undecided”. ]]

    You might be forgetting the fact that not everyone would be so lacking of common sense as to not look into it first before leaping. People want the best they can get out of the money that they have worked so hard to obtain but on that same notion people are also long fed up with the way the current wireless industry in Canada has carried on for years now.
    If Verizon does show but has garbage for plans is it your thoughts that everyone voting yes on this poll still will jump carriers with out
    rationally giving any consideration first?

    Maybe hold back on the “intelligent Canadian” bit when you seem capable to flip the next moment into labeling others as something that seems a little less than what you think they are.

    [ That’s pretty obvious. Nobody knows ANYTHING. Even Verizon doesn’t know at this point. You don’t know if THEY will get in. You don’t know if some other company who has been silently waiting will get in. You don’t know what sort of pricing or features will be offered. You don’t know when they will be up and running well enough to offer respectable coverage…. You know NOTHING… ZERO… NADDA. ]

    Do you know everything and had I ever stated in any manner what so ever that I ever had any of the facts that initiated your absolute declaration?

    Your first few posts yesterday had for the most part confirmed that Verizon was destined to fail with out providing something other worldly ’cause otherwise it would not be competition.

    I had simply stated that any new company such as Verizon (American) could jump into the already crowded pool that the current 3 have long activated the urine detectors in and hopefully gain a foot hold with out being overly contaminated.

    ( “x” amount of customer base per “x” amount of area would mean a more concentrated fight to flag the attention of that prospective customer.)…the competition.

  • K3

    They didn’t say Verizon- do you work for one of the current three Canadian wireless providers?

  • Al

    “You might be forgetting the fact that not everyone would be so lacking of common sense as to not look into it first before leaping.”

    That’s called “undecided”. Do you not comprehend the difference between “Yes I would” and “I’ll have to wait and see”?

    The rest of your comments are more troll-like, as I have already stated my points very clearly, yet you appear to only be trying to cause argument which would only result in me repeating what I have already stated. As such, our discussion is over.

  • Al

    Yup… You’re definitely a troll. All you need do is read my comments below to realize that’s not the case.

  • K3

    Now why is it that you’re able to switch from
    “Do you think Verizon is run by saints ”
    to
    ” We can only hope that Verizon ”

    ..it’s almost as if you might be trying to sway favor.

    Do you work for one of the current three Canadian wireless providers?

  • K3

    Wasn’t ever really a discussion was it.

  • K3

    There’s that labeling and pointing finger thing again, maybe I wasn’t too far off the mark with trying to understand where it is that you were coming from.

  • Kel

    I find it strange that so many people say YES with ZERO information on Verizon customer service/technology/prices in Canada yet. It’s also weird that those people are blind to the fact that if you compare the cost of hardware and minimum plans of the Big 3 to Verizon right now, the Big 3 are cheaper. Let’s also point out that Verizon has scored low on customer service over and over again. Undecided makes more sense. Bring on Verizon, and let Canadians decide once they have something to compare with. The Big 3 aren’t even against Verizon coming, they are against the rules in place that favour it. Where did all the intelligent Canadians go?

  • websnap

    If Verizon offered the same prices as the other big three, no one would jump. They would stay with the canadian companies. The only reason Canadians move services or purchases to an american company is if they have better prices. That wouldn’t change. Besides, if it just became a 4-way oligopoly, why would the big three be fighting it? They would just share in resources (towers) and agree to artificially keep the prices up as they are doing now. They wouldn’t be putting up a fight. But the are because they know they are going to be under-cut… even if Verizon needs to build towers.

  • non intelligent Canadian

    i’m sure all the intelligent Canadians went to work for robellus.
    any intelligent person would know that the big 3 offer the fairest of rates.

    what were we thinking? omg im so dumb
    halp me

  • websnap

    None of this is true. We have no idea what Verizon would charge but why would they have JIGHER rates than the incumbents? That makes no sense and no one would sign up. Allowing them in doesn’t mean we all have to sign up, it just mean we have more choices. The big three didn’t have issue with the rules when Wind and Mobilicity were the only ones involved because they could outbid them. They have issue now because Verizon has money and is a threat to their ridiculous profits. The intelligent Canadians are all right here. Being rational and not just buying into the lies that the big three are feeding people.

  • guest

    THIS exactly… thank you.

  • ????Dennis

    No I’m using my slow ass iPhone 4 on the power hungry Disqus, because I’m waiting for Verizon to come before I upgrade ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Btw Al, I’m sure I speak for everyone here except Gary. Your defending Robellus is annoying and you speak on behalf of the minority bud, so get used to it ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • ????Dennis

    BECAUSE WE HATE THE BIG 3!!!! Dude pretty much everyone has a cell phone and hates the prices we have to pay. We want fair pricing and excellent customer service. If Verizon comes they will HAVE to offer that to get people to switch obviously. That’s what we’re all hoping for and ready to jump.

  • huskywhale

    verizon is already rich, and only one capable of destroying big three monopoly. .

  • Al

    No. I’m looking at the big picture and prepared to make an informed decision that is good for “me” when the facts are in. If you look at my other comments here, you will see it is exceedingly obvious that I don’t work for the big 3. And if you look at past articles on IPIC you will see I’ve been just as eager as anyone to kick the big 3 in the nuts. HOWEVER, if Verizon (or whatever) comes in with nothing beneficial for me, I’m not going to be stupid enough to switch to them purely out of spite. They damn well better make it worth my while (which I suspect/hope they will).

  • K3

    [[ if Verizon (or whatever) comes in with nothing beneficial for me, I’m not going to be stupid enough to switch to them purely out of spite. ]]

    That would be kind of sound judgment. Good for you.

  • K3

    Al Bundy would like to reply with the following:

    ..wellโ€ฆwhatever man, I am so scratching you off my intelligent Canadians list and I will be the first there to tell you I told you so when I said that we wouldn’t know until we knew what would happen when they set up shop as there are no facts until then and so you don’t have any at all so stop pretending that you’re knowing when you don’t know what you couldn’t know that
    only I would know..

    ..and what are Verizon a bunch of saints?

  • wah_gee

    Verizon is not cheap. However, might be a better choice if they come in with better pricing.

  • blah

    it’s about choice
    and right now, we have none (not REALLY)

  • ConcernedCellUser

    i just voted 25 times. This pole doesn’t tell us anything. I wish it did

    Sorry

  • You changed your IP 25 times just to vote? Wow

  • Pat Daigle

    I just don’t understand why we need a 4th Carrier (when the US barely needs a 4th carrier) and duplicate efforts already achieved by current networks just for the sake of end user prices. It seems like such a waste of time and money (as the newer article this site just posted saying it would take $3 billion USD and several years to tear out the huawei RAN network in place by wind, replace it with their own and build out a network the size that the big 3 operate… All because Canadians want unlimited everything for $30/month? I don’t get it. Don’t get me wrong, the prices of the big 3 are too high and some of their practices are deplorable

  • Pat Daigle

    But duplicating networks and resources that are already in place (with limited spectrum available) seems like the wrong way to about lowering prices.

  • SV650

    Or maybe Wind chose not to buy spectrum in Winnipeg, just as Public Mobile bought no spectrum outside Toronto & Montreal.

    MTS seems to have Manitoba sewn up, and does not appear to offer roaming options to any other carriers.

  • djepsilon

    Exactly. I think this is why the poll results are what they are. People vote “Yes” because they are assuming Verizon will be offering a better deal.

  • djepsilon

    Al makes my day. That is all.

  • websnap

    That’s not true. MTS has a deal with Rogers. Along with them, Telus, Bell, Fido, Koodoo, Virgin and PC Mobile all exist here so MTS, though a major player here doesn’t have a lock. Besides, you buy spectrum nationally, not localized if you enter the auction as a national carrier. If Wind has a chunk of the wireless spectrum, it has it here, in Toronto and in Burnaby. The issue is if they have either towers or access to towers in the particular area to have their network access it.

  • websnap

    And they would be right. Why would Verizon enter into this market and not differentiate themselves from the current market leaders? They aren’t idiots. Just the sheer cost of getting in, establishing a presence, buying spectrum/Wind/Mobilicity, arranging deals with Manufactures… all that cost โ€“ just to offer an on par or more costly set of plans? No. If a company can afford to do all of that, the rates they would offer โ€“ at least for the first few years โ€“ would need to be competitive or the financial losses would be staggering. I’m saying this right now โ€“ from a business perspective, if they don’t undercut plan costs (even just to gain mass activations) they will have to shut down within 5 years. Verizon is not stupid. If they come into Canada, it will be of the mind to destabilize the market here or else they are just throwing their money away.

  • Anonymous

    Just give up Al. Don’t waste your time.

  • crowdpuller

    I think it’ll be nice to have another player in the market that is much stronger than the big 3.I remember when WIND and Mobilicity launched, Rogers would say “we don’t compete with tier 2 network since our service is better blablabla”…. I think this is the first time the big 3 has a real threat.

  • Riddlemethis

    Robellus are the one’s laughing while we are all in misery…again.

  • Ari

    Verizon buying Wind would not change a thing. The coverage would still be the same and would still be AWS. I prefer having access to my networks all over the place.

  • CM

    Having lived in the US for 3 years, with Verizon as my phone provider, I would NEVER switch to Verizon. Horrible, horrible customer service. Canadians don’t know what they’re asking for.