So we were briefly discussing the other day about whether or not Rogers would be adding MMS to the existing iPhone Value Packs and whether or not there will be a price increase. Well, it has been announced and it seems that MMS is being added to all of the Rogers Value Packs in anticipation of OS 3.0. It will come in the form of Unlimited Picture and Video messages and the prices across select iPhone Value Packs will go up by $5.00 on June 2.
So the price ended up increasing after all, but they added both Unlimited Text messages and Unlimited Picture and Video messages to select Value Packs. For updated plans and recommendations, check out our Rogers plans update here. For just the Value Pack changes alone, check out below for the breakdown of each:
$20 Smartphone Value Pack (was $15)
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$20 iPhone Visual Voicemail Value Pack (was $15)
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$35 iPhone Data Value Pack (Price stayed the same) (Price increases to $40 as of August 5, 2009)
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So, what does this mean for you? Well, let’s summarize.
So there you have it!
I am extremely curious to hear what you all think about these changes.
It’s nice that messages are now unlimited, but I would have preferred that an option be given to me to increase the messaging. It seems however that the $35 option offers the best value as it now includes MMS at no additional cost and the 500MB data is really only $15, where standalone it is $25.
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So if they are starting to charge for it tomorrow, do you think they will be releasing 3.0 this week?
Not this week, but within the next 2 weeks for sure
hum, how can 500mb for 35$ be such a good deal? Is rogers behind this post???
I will not buy an iphone unless they offer the 6GB plan again. maybe they are doing me a favour by not offering it.
s-c-r-e-w t-h-e-m
Why isn’t it a good deal?
I personally use less than 400mb a month, so I find the $35 plan to be a great offer.
The alternative is paying $20 for a value pack and $25 for 500 mb of data. Its $35 vs $45.
I don’t know, sounds close to me. The Apple updater just offered to download and install iTunes v8.2.0 with this message:
iTunes 8.2 now supports iPhone or iPod touch with the iPhone 3.0 Software Update. iTunes 8.2 also includes many accessibility improvements and bug fixes.
For information on the security content of this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
Does anyone know about the retentions $10 value pack? Will they add MMS to it a well?
It usually includes:
2500 txts
CID
VM
$10
Any ideas?
Yes, but you’ll have to call to change it.
I just spoke to a rogers rep and got this plan. Before I had 1gb/30$ and 11$ value pack. I thought there might be a problem because I was actually downgrading but it was so easy and smooth to do.
Before I was on rogers I was with bell and I tell ya that was a bloody nightmare to deal with. Anyone who complains about rogers is either in a) some freak circumstance situation or b) complains about everything and have never experienced the bell/telus nightmare before.
Go rogers!
Great to hear a good experience!
Man, our cellphone bills are going to continue to keep going higher and higher! It seems as though there’s no end in sight!
I agree. Rogers is just screwing there customers for more money! Its working though 😉 lol
What about the 6gb data plan will it include the mms?
No. Data is just data.
Does anyone know if these changes apply to Fido too? I got my iphone with Fido and they had pretty much the same value packs before they were turned into the cheapo cell phone company they are now!?
Most likely yes
i hope this will be included in the 6gb i dont want to pay even more!!!
No it wont.
Any data plans are strictly just data plans.
The 6GB data plan is just alone data.
What if I don’t change value packs? Does anyone know how much it costs per MMS?
Maybe I’ll just stick to emailing pictures for free…
Outgoing local texts/MMS without a pack are $0.15
I find it annoying they are increasing the cost of the value packs weeks before OS 3.0 comes out and we can actually use the new features. I think people should call and demand a discount for the first month or however long until 3.0 comes out. How can this even be allowed? Great we now get unlimited texts but we still can’t use MMS until 3.0
Agreed. As a developer for the iPhone running the beta 3.0, so far those functions have not activated. I’m going to assume– and this is probably a really bad thing to do, as I don’t want to start rumours– that the billing will be pro-rated to the release date of 3.0 and when the features are turned on.
The new price may show in the literature and website for new purchases, but the existing customers can’t be billed for services that are not being provided.
Again, time will tell. I’m actually starting to be scared to look at my cell bills.
😉
MMS works fine in the 3.0 Beta.
Im runing Beta 5 and have used B1 through B4 and have had MMS the entire time.
What about the older $30 iPhone data value pack – will it be “upgraded” so to speak to include MMS?
No. That remains at $30 without MMS.
If you want MMS, you must upgrade to the new packs listed above
Name Display:
Thanks for the update – but Rogers have said that Caller Display with Name Display, particularly the name display, is NOT available on an iphone? Does anyone get Name Display working (that is not already in their contacts – as this name will come up if you have added it.)
Thanks, matty
Did I say name display works with the iPhone?
If you read again, you’ll see that none of the iPhone value packs include Name display.
Data usage in the USA. 3 Million dollars equivalent.
This is a little off the post – but I went down to the US and rang up Rogers to find the cost of data while roaming in the US – 3 cents per KB. So, do the math – my home internet plan is 100gig for about $55. If you hypothetically were to download 100gig in the USA at standard roaming charges you would be charged 3 Million Dollars!! Now that is criminal. That’s even way more than the cost of printer ink (if you work that out by the liter it can come in at $800 to $1000 per liter).
Maybe these observations would be the subject of a new thread Gary?
thanks, matty
A true observation, but no rational person would download 100GB’s on a mobile phone. If so, they are looking to be charged.
Also, X1Zero is not Gary 🙂
I just got off the phone with Rogers, and after asking about the iPhone 3G New Value packs with the MMS, all he had to say was “the iphone can’t do picture or video messaging”. I wish Rogers employees were slightly more up to date with things like this. But I forwarded this guy to http://www.iphoneincanada.ca and basically all he had to say was, “You can’t belive everything you read online”. Anyways, I wasn’t going to bother continuing on a conversation. So for all those out there who want to get this on their plan right now, you’re just going to have to wait a little longer!
Well that shows you the intelligence of some of these CSR’s.
The iPhone CAN do MMS with OS 3.0. Thousands of people are already running 3.0 (me included) and have been using MMS.
Give it a few days for the monkeys to be trained and updated on the new info.
Good god, we’re being nickel and dime’d to death…. At least I’ve given up my land line so I don’t feel quite so bad.. 🙁
Bring on 3.0
Yes I would like to know about the 30.00 iphone value pack. I got the first one as well when it came out. I am hoping they are available with this pack too,
Thanks
Any previous iPhone packs will expire.
So whatever you have stays the same; no changes.
To get MMS, you must change to the new ones.
the 6GB plan was good, but seriously 500Mb’s is more then enough. the only way you would even go over 500mbs would be if you enjoy Youtube a LOT or stream radio hours a day. Other then that, With smart use of Wifi while at home, i dont see many people ever going over 500.
Also a word on the release of 3.0 Release, word on the street is its going to be Center Stage opening on June 8’th Apple convention meeting in San Fransisco and should be made public that day or the next
You know, I used to agree that 500MB is enough but our own blogger iPhone Fan manages to blow through 800MB per month easily.
However, yes, for most users, 500MB is enough. 🙂
So if I am on the 3 year 6GB plan can I switch to the $35 plan that gives 500mb/month easily? I don’;t use 6GB that’s for sure and would love to save $15 each month if I can?
Yes, i must admit there is a select few where they go over 500mb’s but thats why you can pay for extra, but my guess is that 80% of all users are under 500mbs
a lot of my lesser Electronic smart friends dont even know how to get over 200mb’s >.>… lol
What about those lucky enough to get the my5 25 dollar plan plus 6gb 30 dollar plan
As far as I know, my5 includes text and picture messaging so will they charge even more?
No, people with the My5 plans or My5 add on will not be charged for outgoing MMS because My5 covers that. However, if you send someone an MMS who is not on your My5, then you pay.
The 6GB plan has no relation to messages sent from your iPhone.
Well After Doing a ton of Research, and talking to many rogers employees. This Post is true, but the details are mixed up a bit. YES the $35 dollar plan was put in motion to include MMS messaging, but it was included to the “Smartphone” Value pack for the new Revolution phone. the $35 Dollar “Iphone” Value pack Although the same in Every single way excluding MMS is a seperate pack. and they are not willing to apply the Smartphone pack to the Iphone although the iphone is classed as a smartphone.
So there we have it. 2 different $35 plans, Iphones the one that didnt get the MMS lol lame eh? you can check it out on the Rogers Website as well
Under the “$35 smartphone value pack” They posted a new details line that wasnt there days ago saying “If looking for a Data Value Pack for iPhone devices please refer to $35 iPhone Data Value Pack page.”
wasnt there a few days ago, so i would imagin they added it because of this post, as well as a few others talking about that plan, and the loads of calls they are getting from it lol
If You check on Rogers Website, the new iPhone Value Packs are here and include MMS too!
do we need to unblock data on the iphone to send/receive MMS?
I have now spoken to three different reps and have gotten three different answers regarding mms.
Rep 1 – said I didn’t need to change anything.
Rep 2 – this was tech support, said the feature would be enabled with 3.0, but I would be charged extra
Rep 3 – accounts again, started with, “On Friday you’ll have to phone Apple and ask to have your phone upgraded to 3.0”. She told me it would be 50 cents per picture message, but obviously I’m reluctant to trust her reliability.
Anyone?
So what does that tell you about Rogers’ customer service consistency?
The place you want to come is here.
The answer is:
If you have a value pack that includes MMS, you’re fine.
If you have a value pack that does not include MMS, you need to change and you will pay more for this value pack.
You will only be charged per message if you do not have MMS on your value pack.
Obviously you do not have to call Apple to get 3.0. LOL!
Can you reply to my ? above?
I am wondering if i can downgrade from the 6gb plan to the $35/mo plan that includes 500mb and the mms…would save me $15 a month
I have the old $30 Data plan, which when I signed up they were offering a $10 discount for the full 3 year contract. So I only pay $20. This includes 10,000 text messages and no MMS. As Xzero said, I have to upgrade to the now $35 plan to get MMS. I said no way, I’ll just email pictures and save $15 a month.
What about receiving MMS ? those should be free right ?
If you have MMS on your plan, then yes.
I don’t have MMS plan,
I’m asking because even if you don’t have a SMS plan, receiving them is free
so receiving MMS should be free as well!
Man I hate rogers, did anybody see the front page of the Ottawa citizen today ?
it stated that TXT messages are around 4900% mark up.
I refuse to pay for Data, it’s too expensive, and wifi is everywhere.
and if someone has a 6G plan and they still charge them to send MMS is simply mind boggling. come on!!
why would rogers charge per protocol ? it’s ALL DATA!! all l of it, it’s all the same to them on their network, it’s just marketed with different names so they can charge everybody for every single feature that a network is capable of doing.
ATTENTION: ROGERS!! you sell data. that’s it that’s all!
why can’t you charge us a fair rate for a any service per kb that it really takes up on your network ?
the day will come when a “wireless voice plan” wont exist anymore, and cheap unlimited voice will be available on a cheap unlimited data plan with every feature a phone is capable of doing.
how can you justify charging extra for features like caller ID ?? on a digital network, all that info is sent regardless of the plan. it doesn’t cost them anything more. in fact they have to block it if you don’t pay for it. so they actually have to spend money/time blocking the service for the customer that doesn’t pay them.
i need a beer.
/rant
Yeah, what’s really sick is a la carte data rates. (3 cents/kb) This should DEFINITELY be illegal.
Minimum Plan = 500 MB
$25/mo
A La Carte = $.03/KB = $30/MB
500 MB = $15,000
Seriously? If you don’t want to pay a monthly minimum of $25, you get charged at 600x the rate? 60,000% more??
Rogers would just say, “Sure, it’s a no-brainer. Pay us $25/mo even if you don’t plan to use our service regularly. Think about the *savings*”
Sounds like paying a mobster for “protection” to me.
Bah. Rogers.
I’m with Matt MacEwan…hopefully someone will answer his question soon. I have the 6GB/$30 data pack but rarely go over 500MB, with the upgrade, I might want to tether- but is it worth it for $15? Can I downgrade to the $35/month data/features plan?
I used to have an ATT iphone service, for $45 you get ulimited data plan, the visual voicemail and call display are for free. Man Rogers and carab makes Canada looks like thirld world contries. Do you believe that Rogers has a plan that includes 25 minutes for calling USA? twenty five that is not a typo.
I've called into Rogers back in July several times confirming if MMS was included for free if I were to upgrade my iPhone hardware to 3.0 OS. They've confirmed it more than once with me over the phone that my Data Value Pack ($35) includes everything stated above (free text, picture, video msgs). When I checked my bill today it states the rate has gone up to $40! After speaking to the agent on the phone about this she said she couldn't do anything about bringing the rate back down to $35, even though I was told on numerous occasions what I had signed up for was $35! She said she could give me a credit of $10 for two months. I didn't give in – that's nothing compared to how much revenue they will generate from my account for 3 + yrs. I've been a subscriber of Rogers for over 5 years now. This is ridiculous how they cannot adjust the rate back down after they can clearly see I was in fact advised the package was $35 and included MMS. How can they just change the price on me like that? That is not fair and it is not what I had signed up for. I'm due for an appointment with a supervisor. If it cannot get resolved I'll be filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
I've called into Rogers back in July several times confirming if MMS was included for free if I were to upgrade my iPhone hardware to 3.0 OS. They've confirmed it more than once with me over the phone that my Data Value Pack ($35) includes everything stated above (free text, picture, video msgs). When I checked my bill today it states the rate has gone up to $40! After speaking to the agent on the phone about this she said she couldn't do anything about bringing the rate back down to $35, even though I was told on numerous occasions what I had signed up for was $35! She said she could give me a credit of $10 for two months. I didn't give in – that's nothing compared to how much revenue they will generate from my account for 3 + yrs. I've been a subscriber of Rogers for over 5 years now. This is ridiculous how they cannot adjust the rate back down after they can clearly see I was in fact advised the package was $35 and included MMS. How can they just change the price on me like that? That is not fair and it is not what I had signed up for. I'm due for an appointment with a supervisor. If it cannot get resolved I'll be filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.
You mean like $0.50$! I just received my bill and got charged $10.50 for 21 messages!!! So a new feature pops up on our iPhone (like a little camera besides a text box) and all of a sudden I owe Rogers more money for using it??? What a load of crap!
You mean like $0.50$! I just received my bill and got charged $10.50 for 21 messages!!! So a new feature pops up on our iPhone (like a little camera besides a text box) and all of a sudden I owe Rogers more money for using it??? What a load of crap!
So if they are starting to charge for it tomorrow, do you think they will be releasing 3.0 this week?
hum, how can 500mb for 35$ be such a good deal? Is rogers behind this post???
I will not buy an iphone unless they offer the 6GB plan again. maybe they are doing me a favour by not offering it.
s-c-r-e-w t-h-e-m
I don’t know, sounds close to me. The Apple updater just offered to download and install iTunes v8.2.0 with this message:
iTunes 8.2 now supports iPhone or iPod touch with the iPhone 3.0 Software Update. iTunes 8.2 also includes many accessibility improvements and bug fixes.
For information on the security content of this update, please visit this website: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
Does anyone know about the retentions $10 value pack? Will they add MMS to it a well?
It usually includes:
2500 txts
CID
VM
$10
Any ideas?
I just spoke to a rogers rep and got this plan. Before I had 1gb/30$ and 11$ value pack. I thought there might be a problem because I was actually downgrading but it was so easy and smooth to do.
Before I was on rogers I was with bell and I tell ya that was a bloody nightmare to deal with. Anyone who complains about rogers is either in a) some freak circumstance situation or b) complains about everything and have never experienced the bell/telus nightmare before.
Go rogers!
Man, our cellphone bills are going to continue to keep going higher and higher! It seems as though there’s no end in sight!
What about the 6gb data plan will it include the mms?
Does anyone know if these changes apply to Fido too? I got my iphone with Fido and they had pretty much the same value packs before they were turned into the cheapo cell phone company they are now!?
Not this week, but within the next 2 weeks for sure
Why isn’t it a good deal?
I personally use less than 400mb a month, so I find the $35 plan to be a great offer.
The alternative is paying $20 for a value pack and $25 for 500 mb of data. Its $35 vs $45.
Yes, but you’ll have to call to change it.
i hope this will be included in the 6gb i dont want to pay even more!!!
Great to hear a good experience!
No. Data is just data.